MusicMan

It definitely is! Some of their products are actually really good and sound great. I would say some of the best group buys I've seen too. If they could just focus more on some of their standard shortcomings and listen more to customer feedback they could be unstoppable.

Once you can get the new software from Arturia maybe, but their servers and everything grind to halt and stop responding and syncing purchases as well, on almost any release, so they're maybe not the best example ? But they do seem well coded besides that. Agreed with Peter too.. whatever they pay him, they should at least double it!

And just like that, thou gods have spoken and cast shame upon IK and said, thou shall not shafteth thou customers by getting them to pay twice for something they already own.. for if they make them, IK will spend their eternity in the firey pits of hell, only reserved for likes of Waves and other WUP style peddlers ?

Thanks ? That's what threw me as I did a conversion from €79 to USD and the just don't add up! Changing to USD does indeed show $69 even though according to xe.com €79 should be $82.39.. VAT might explain it I guess, but it's definitely unusual..

I guess maybe they're just not as popular as the 2A, but you're right, there's not as many options unfortunately. If it was 65% off that particular plugin then it would be an instant buy. I'm still considering buying it even if it costs more, just to give the one finger salute to Waves and their crappy WUP antics ??

Not sure if it needs a reboot or something, but the gain reduction meters stop working when switching to mid/side. It's clearly being compressed and even increasing the gain on the input to 100 and peak reduction to 100, the GR meter doesn't move. Switch back to stereo and with no settings changed it's doing 15dB of gain reduction with the meters working correctly.. It did seem to work initially, so I'm now wondering if their software might be a little buggy or unstable. Solved: In testing on a number of source tracks, I had copied it to a mono track and that breaks the metering...

These should definitely be free for owners of Sunset as the full plugin in T-Racks. It's quite laughable to cripple them somewhat, stuff them into Mixbox, throw some presets with them and then charge again.. milking at its finest! For some reason I start reconsidering updates from IK when I see an IK update thread growing from previous experience.. it generally means they either screwed up the installer, introduced some bugs, or shafted people on pricing ? I do like some of their stuff though ?

I am somewhat considering their Comp LA. I've been taking it for a test run and it's quite decent. I've been trying to deWavesify / deWUPify my set up ? I was able to replace the CLA-2A with the Black Rooster Audio VLA-2A which for my tastes was at least on par. Then BRA gave us the MKII version update free and I much prefer that to the CLA-2A in terms of functionality and sound. But I still preferred the Waves CLA-3A than the BRA version of that and some of the others I tried. So far the 3A in Comp LA seems on par with the Waves CLA-3A but it's much more versatile, including Mid/Side and gain controls as well as harmonics. It could be a contender.

Do you happen to own more of theirs, or what region are you browsing from, because I see most of their gems all as €79.00?

Yeah all these plugin companies don't mind hyping the maximum discount even when it only applies to barely one plugin..

I remember this being very heavy on resources as well. Just tried it again on the stereo buss and it was OK, but I don't have a lot running at the moment. Sounded surprisingly nice. I wondered if they might have released new updates for me to install, but it doesn't seem they have unfortunately, so if it was a resource hog back then, it probably still is.

I'm using 32C and I'm really quite impressed with it for mixing. Cubase is more efficient on CPU etc, but like they pitch, I do also use more of the inbuilt stock plugins in 32C. I got the XT Compressor for free with 32C and I really like it. Especially for sidechaining and ducking bass, when the kick hits, or ducking other instruments for vocals, etc. I have a tonne of other great and paid compressors, some costing more than I paid for 32C and I still reach for XT. The XT gate (yes, it's just a gate!), I really like as well. The tape saturation on the busses in Mixbus are really great sounding too. That's why I was considering getting this Mixbus, to get all the XT plugs as well, but just keep using 32C.

Lots of brilliant and time saving updates and new features in 12, but even by 9.5 it was a really complete and great DAW. For me, Cubase is the most rounded and comprehensive there is. The other DAWs for sure all have some great features as well though.

And the underwhelming freebies continue! Across all of the companies it's mainly repeats of freebies, lack lustre, or both! I don't think they need to do much to drive sales at the moment..

Such a great DAW and with 12 Pro, I'm really left wanting, or needing very little.. almost nothing... I'm still finding and exploring new functionality.. it's pretty damn comprehensive!

It's very different to Waldorf 2 LE and runs perfectly on Cubase 12 Pro / Win10. It can easily go from super warm, to gnarly sounds (especially basses) and with lots of movement and an analogue'ish sound. I have fun programming patches on Largo ?

That's how I use it personally. My main DAW is Cubase which I love and use for all recording and production, but I enjoy Mixbus purely for the mixing experience and sound. Cubase is still great for that and I use for mixdowns as well, but it's nice having both options. The combination of the buss saturation in Mixbus and even the quality of some of the stock effects in it allows for a really nice result.

The thing I wondered with this is if you already have Mixbus 32C, can you buy this just to get all the XT plugins and use them inside 32C or will they only be licensed inside this version of Mixbus?

After all the posts you've made in the last hour or two alone, I think you've earned a break ?

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Worth noting that I think that suite only includes RX 9 Standard and not the Advanced version of RX they were looking for, but otherwise it would still be an OK deal too ?

I have a feeling the resellers were probably all asked to pull the upgrade, at least for now Zo.

I didn't find Electrum hugely heavy on resources (although I didn't make an effort to check as I didn't notice any impact), so I would've expected it to be similar. I'm the same as you, in that there are a couple of plugins I bought that I use sparingly now as they're very heavy, but I'm coming up to a new DAW build soon, so the prices were great so it made sense to pick them up at the time and I'll be able to run more instances on the next system.

That was also part of the consideration for me. I also wasn't sure what those promised updates would be and whether they would apply when getting them through a reseller, as my understanding is you only get individual licenses or serials and there's no bundle serial number or anything.

I could've just managed to get this from a reseller, but was really on the fence with it, even at that price. It definitely has some useful tools, but for the most part I have on par, or generally better alternatives, apart from RX maybe. But I was much more excited with an upgrade to Eventide Anthology and Arturia FX 3 Collection which were in around that price combined. They also aren't trying to force the subscription model as much, which I prefer too. Both of those bundles have been REALLY good so far too!