MusicMan

Underwhelm installed ?

This is almost as exciting as the rare Waves $29.99 sale.. incidentally it's even a dollar more expensive than a Waves sale...

They should bottle this for Insomnia.. Definitely put me to sleep ?

I will keep my underwhelm ready and on standby, but happy to be surprised ?

On 6/17/2022 at 5:29 AM, aidan o driscoll said:

Mega Sampler is essentially PAs version of LOOPCLOUD .. Just go over to loopcloud and try that  .. same idea & its a sub too but cheaper. Ha all the EFX etc plus the inbuilt tracks and so on

So what i am saying is if Loopcloud never attracted you, then this will not either

Nailed it ?

Loopcloud is sub, but you can stop your subscription at any time and still use it for any packs, or samples you've bought, even packs you paid for, or got free on Loopmasters. You can also use it for local samples and loops without a sub too. But I think you need at least one month sub to be able to add and scan all your local libraries initially.

You're right too.. Loopcloud does actually have a lot of built in effects!

Loopcloud seems like the clear winner between the two so far.

On 6/17/2022 at 3:31 AM, antler said:

It looks like a different beast from Kontakt: Kontakt is a deep sampler that 'plays' like an instrument; this looks more like a sound/loop player with an integrated online library of sounds (no disrespect - right tool for the right job). I suspect there could be three reasons why this is sub-only:

• It 'contains' all of PA's plugins, so selling this separately could be seen as a 'cheat' way to get their plugins
• It's too hard to decouple plugin access from online library access
• It's aimed at people who are likely to accept subs: people that like to buy plugins would probably go for Kontakt, which can most likely do what this can and more.

Of course, this is just speculation on my part - it could be that none of the above are true.

I think you're right on it being a different beast to Kontakt. Even though they're both samplers. Kontakt isn't as loop focused at all. Many libraries are loop focused for it, but I never really consider it for that. Loops I'd just use Cubase personally.

I'm terms of online library, I don't see any issues with that and I think the more options the better ?

They do already have a number of synths that include some of the PA plugins in the same rack type interface, so I'm not sure that's it, as you can just buy them.

Decoupling should be easy, at least it's no trouble at all for Loopcloud. That supports both local samples/loops and online library.

I think you're on the money with the last point. Maybe they don't care about sales, or adoption of it, it's just a marketing / advertising thing to get people over the line with subs.

All good food for thought ?

On 6/17/2022 at 3:28 AM, abacab said:

My impression is that this MEGA Sampler is not intended to be an alternative to Kontakt, with polished multi-sampled instrument libraries. Rather more like the Waves CR8 sampler, with a library subscription that a producer can use to access & drop selected samples into their session. Well suited for DJ style productions, but could actually be used for anything as a sound design tool.

NI should be fine!

NI is indirectly fine regardless now due to the merger ?

I'd agree, that positioning might make some sense. Even Waves CR8 can be used without a subscription though (I think, I didn't bother trying it) and I can't believe I'm going to say this .. but that might give Waves the edge ?

I'm terms of the DJ side, the digital mixers, DDJs and digital turntables generally come with built in samplers and looping and connect to DJ pools, or downloaded content. Ableton Live seems to be common for those that want more outside of that, so my thoughts are they won't be big there.

I'm sure they'll get quite a few people though, both indirectly that have the sub for other reasons and those where it may sweeten the subscriptions to get them over the line, but they're going to miss out on a huge market unnecessarily, which makes their road harder.

On 6/17/2022 at 2:31 AM, Grem said:

This may be the reason it's subscription only. To appease those with subs (feeling they getting something special/restricted). And to appease NI who is not looking for competition from anyone, let alone a partner of theirs. I suspect that this may have been part of the "Partnership" deal made between PA and NI.

 

Very solid points Grem and I would definitely not at all be surprised if they played a big part.

I think all their plugins might only be VST2 for now, which was dropped by Steinberg for Mac in the latest version of Cubase and will be deprecated for Windows and no doubt other DAWs will start to follow.

Something to keep in mind when buying unless there's been any progress on updates from them.

16 hours ago, cclarry said:

Get it here - One Amp is FREE - Full License is 59 Euros

https://ml-sound-lab.com/pages/amped-roots

 

Great freebie, although I haven't used the old one in a bit. I did look at buying some of theirs, but they only provide 1 license by default. Not sure if that's changed, but it put me off so I didn't buy anything from them. Will check out this upgraded freebie though ?

30 minutes ago, Grem said:

Me too!!

LOL!!

Me three ?

I'm not at all disappointed they made it subscription only. It means I have no need to install it, it check it out.

I can't see it ever getting the widespread adoption that Kontakt has with 3rd party libraries, especially as a sub. The inbuilt effects look handy, but I have the ones I like to use from them and I can't see it really competing any time soon with the likes of Loopcloud, or Splice, etc.

They would've been smarter to release it non sub to get adoption.

Not installed ?

These are really cool and experimental sound manglers... I like them so far!

7 hours ago, McKay7789 said:

As a starter composer, I would absolutely love to get this freebie but it's no longer available - don't suppose you could share the files?

Maybe drop them an email. I wouldn't at all be surprised if they let you have them ?

26 minutes ago, Reid Rosefelt said:

This thing spilled out in a long discussion on KVR.

https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8375475&sid=4b433617c50605f4b4a0b1a342d5214f#p8375475

It seems like things have fallen apart between the two of them and can't be fixed. 

Wow.. yeah I can't see that being fixed, especially after airing it all on there.. even if they do, the brand will definitely take a massive hit, as people will be reluctant to buy knowing it could just flair up again.

Luckily I don't own any of their plugins, but I do know the name and they sound like they're at least somewhat half decent, so it's a shame.

I have quite a few (lot of limiters!) and still find myself liking and reaching for this one quite a bit.

PSP definitely make some decent plugins and some very reasonable sale prices for that level of quality.

51 minutes ago, abacab said:

Sort of a stealth group buy, perhaps?

Exactly that and I forgot to add as well, that some probably notice, but then don't hurry to fix it, as it creates a buzz and generates a storm of sales. Then once they've killed the codes, it still generates advertising.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's also used by some companies to offer deeper discounts that might otherwise upset people who paid more, as it's viewed as a pricing error.

So I think there could be a mix of everything from simple mistakes, to a highly effective sales generation tool and anything in between.

Either way, it seems to be win/win for almost everyone in many cases ?

6 hours ago, pseudopop said:

I'm amazed how sloppy some companies are with the codes.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's a mix of some being sloppy and for some, guerrilla marketing tricks and driving some sales as well.

With downloadable software and plugins, it's not like they lose money, it's more that people buy them that might not have, because they're such a great buy at those crazy reduced prices.

I love the Eventide products, but the discounts made them a complete no brainer, otherwise I wouldn't have picked them up right at this moment... Or upgraded to Anthology as a result as well ?

4 minutes ago, teclark7 said:

I have Undulator but not the iOS app. Confusing when you look at the bundle it does not refer to the iOS app.

I wouldn't be certain that's what it is and I'm not sure they would include that in the bundle as it's a different store, but that did come to mind as it is H9.

I did read somewhere also about something with people having all the products in Anthology still seeing an upgrade price too, so it might get not even be related to that.

Nice set of plugins though ?

12 minutes ago, teclark7 said:

Anyone know why upgrading to H9 bundle is $19.90 even though I now have all 11 plugins? Are there some sort of multi presets for chains of plugins that you only get in the bundle?

Edit: Did you also get the ones that weren't on sale? There's the iOS one (QVox) and Undulator.

The modular stuff is really cool... outside of VM and PSP, I think I've just discovered my  new favourite crazy tweakable modular plugin.. the Eventide H3000 Factory.. If you enjoy VM/PSP, I'd highly recommend giving it a go.. very fun to program and you can come up with some crazy out there results ?

VERY generous offer by them! I though it was only the Zampler packs at first, but it also included their VST instruments and their books. The books are really short, but I'm sure there will be at least a few useful bits of info and tips ?

Same with the sound packs. I have found them to be a bit hit and miss, but I'm sure there are some gems too.

Thanks for posting it?

7 hours ago, cclarry said:

They send you links so you can download them at your leisure

Thanks Lars. That definitely helped knowing that and made it worth buying them as I didn't have time to download right then ?

I picked up the PSP Ultimate collection as well as upgrading from Ignite to Core + Elecro Drums. Pretty great deal as Ignite only cost me $10 earlier in the year, then under $25 for the upgrade, plus about $27 for PSP ?

I really enjoy creating patches in this setup.. I'm certain I'm going to lose hours / days / weeks messing around in there though ?

Do you have to download them all now, or can you download them later?

Thanks Lars, I picked this one up as I liked the SSL Bus Compressor and strip bundle and this one is a good one too ?

23 hours ago, Fleer said:

Physion and SplitEQ. 
But if you’re in love with Blackhole, check out Zynaptiq’s Adaptiverb. You’ll die. 

Those two are really quite interesting plugins. Physion in particular. I've got a few transient focused plugins that I want to spend some more time with and really put through their paces and see what I might need, but I'll keep these two in mind for one of their next sales.

Adaptiverb looks very nice and I've heard good things about that one, so I'm sure I probably would.. especially as it's 11 times more expensive than what I just spent! I'll skip trying that one just for now, as I've got a heap of reverbs.. the price on the Blackhole was I think almost intro price and I saw a walkthrough after that sale had passed and kind of kicked myself for not getting it. I'm sure I'll end up demoing Adaptiverb sooner or later too though!

Luckily I moved quick while the Groove3 discount was still working and snagged Blackhole ?

I demoed that and it was an instabuy.. I was also giving TriceraChorus a demo too, but before buying I wanted to go through my existing Chorus plugins and see what it offered that was different...

NI Choral gets me somewhat near and OSL's free Chorus is surprisingly good too. I think I do prefer TriceraChorus though.. I probably should've pulled the trigger on that one as well ?

I picked up their Blackhole reverb which I'm loving and is quite a different sounding reverb and good for sound design.

Any other standouts, or recommendations?