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8 hours ago, kitekrazy said:

I guess that would change if you spent $4K on a Korg workstation.  That would leave out expenses to buy more stuff.

I suspect that may not be enough to slow down many of the members on here ?

On 7/18/2022 at 11:05 PM, Fleer said:

Then again, got Echobode from SonicCharge (and ValhallaDSP’s FreqEcho freebie). 

FreqEcho is a great plugin, especially for free, but it's not really that close at all to Hertzrider. It does allow you to shift, but there's no LFO, envelope and you can't manipulate the left and right channels, unless you used two instances with some additional routing.

I wasn't familiar with Echobode, but that looks nice too. From a quick look, that would get you closer, but same with FreqEcho, it doesn't appear to allow you to manipulate the left and right channels separately.

That's where Hertzrider shines. You can use it as a basic frequency shifter, add modulation with LFO etc, or use it like a swiss army knife to manipulate the frequencies differently on both left and right channels for greater depth, or creative stereo field movement and manipulation. So it can be used as a tool, or creatively as well. Interesting plugin. ?

On 7/18/2022 at 10:54 PM, Fleer said:

Dang. Cameron. Dang. 

He does some pretty great reviews and tutorials and it wouldn't be the first time I've picked up some insights from his videos that helped me pull the trigger on a purchase ?

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52 minutes ago, cclarry said:

But, if you buy from a Discounter, then you are supporting BOTH the Developer AND the Small Business.
Look at the BIG PICTURE!

But then they only get a small picture each, instead of one big picture ?

12 minutes ago, Jan Schmitz said:

You should really buy this on their site for the same price and support the developer:

https://pulsar.audio/mu

That's a good point really.. if it's the same price I agree and will normally buy direct from developers.

9 minutes ago, cclarry said:

Something to remember.  Free products don't count towards "upgrades" so, while the group buys are 
certainly great, they're not of much benefit otherwise.  Once you've got 'em...that's it.

Yeah their upgrade policy is bizarre.. IMO they would sell a HEAP more software if they counted them for upgrades too..

I can't see any real need to upgrade anything I own from them (which feels almost like I own everything thanks to a previous group buy ?) but that aspect would make them more enticing as a company if I felt the need right now.

24 minutes ago, LittleStudios said:

With a sale like this, basically almost giving away there whole T-Racks library, makes me wonder if it's a last stab to grab some quick cash before releasing a new version T-Racks 6 or a discontinuation of T-Racks all together.  Maybe a whole new product line.

...or maybe not.

IK cops some flack, some of which is definitely deserved, but they're the reigning champions of group buys and giveaway truckloads of software, including some of their newly released plugins and instruments at times.

I couldn't rule out TR6 coming out soon, but I can't imagine them discontinuing it given how long it's been around for and how successful it is.

And even if they did release TR6, I would definitely not be surprised to see that in a group buy pretty damn soon after its release too ?

Out if curiosity, what's the cheapest it ever gets to? I've seen €99 a number of times.

57 minutes ago, kitekrazy said:

 So how many "the only synth You'll ever need" are out there?

Definitely more than one it seems ?

I've seen this one go on sale quite a few times and didn't quite see much of a need.. turns out I've been sleeping on it!

This thing can be used to tweak the sound and fatten like they say, but you can actually get crazy creative with it and abuse it. For $12.46 and the fun I've had in one session and the track I've sketched out while messing with it as a result, it's a total no brainer ?

PSP once again, did not disappoint!

This was also a handy video covering some more of the LFO and automation etc possibilities:

1 hour ago, Niky Serrano said:

They were one of my favourite companies to buy plugins... but... I haven't spent anything with them during last months... why?... you know it

Same and I'd recommend them and their products pretty regularly... And while I still do rate (and use) their products, I don't praise them as much as... When they were good, i.e. pre merger!

10 hours ago, antler said:

Me too - which I suppose is good for my wallet

 

Agree with that one too; I guess the two balance each other.

For me I'm not sure they quite balance out, but I can see they would for some people ?

As for my wallet.. PA hasn't been getting it, but I've been getting quite a few things from other developers instead during this time, so my wallet still isn't seeing a benefit yet ?

1 hour ago, antler said:

I wonder how results from services like this compare to using all-in-one mastering plugins, e.g. IK's One, Lurssen Mastering Console, or PA's MasterDesk. The list prices of these plugins are quite high, but they can go for quite cheap during group buys/sales.

Lurssen and Masterdesk are both quite decent. I would normally just use separate compressors, saturation, EQ, etc but for ease of use and decent results these can get people in the ballpark depending on how good the mix is.

I've been pretty wary on Cloudbounce and would likely trust PA's newer online (or desktop version) AI Mastering instead personally.

1 hour ago, Max Arwood said:

Been buying for years. Some I paid tooo much for some I did not. 

How many did you get for $15-$18. Non pedal effects. 

It depends on the company, but for Plugin Alliance, almost all in that range, or less ?

$25 was generally the top if I just wanted something sooner, but that was rare.

1 hour ago, cclarry said:

It doesn't make me mad...it makes me WISER!  When you realize that you DO NOT have to be the first
kid on the block to have it, you save yourself a LOT OF MONEY!

That's exactly what I do. There is almost always a sale! There are a few exceptions and I have skipped a few intro prices, only to see the standard price increase and they haven't dipped back that low ever again.

But the money saved by waiting in general easily makes up for these couple of plugins.

So many RRP are a joke these days, so I largely ignore them.

3 hours ago, Brian Walton said:

Well given that you can pick up any of the new releases for $31 on day of release....to jog the memory here in the PA world that kind of pricing took almost a year wait.  Even a $75 voucher wasn't getting things that low for months.  

I'd like the voucher Min to go away as well, but for new product releases in PA terms, this is as good as I ever remember seeing them.  For old releases, sure it stings a bit.

I'd agree with you there. They broke vouchers which I don't like and the minimum spend means most months I'm not buying anything from them anymore, but the new releases at $31 for things you really want is much better.

I'm not normally in a mad rush, as I've got plenty of alternatives, so I was generally happy just waiting 6 to 12 months and get stuff $25 or under, but I do like this $31 for new releases as an option and I'm sure plenty of people are taking advantage of it. I haven't used it yet, but I wouldn't rule it out if there's anything extra special they release.

3 hours ago, Yan Filiatrault said:

I got a reply that it doesn’t lower the upgrade price to V Collection 9

That's about what I expected, but glad to see it confirmed. That counts me out, as I think at some stage I might crossgrade to the V Collection.

5 hours ago, Szymon said:

I wondering how its can affect upgrade price to V colection 9 from V colection 8,

I don't have the previous collection, although I do have the FX Collection 3, Pigments and Lab. The only reason I'd consider this is if it gave a greater discount on the crossgrade to V Collection than what I'd pay for this ?

10 minutes ago, PavlovsCat said:

I really didn't have a B3 that I'd strongly recommend,  so that's another instrument I'd love a better version of.  Would you recommend the IK Hammond B-3x? That sounds like something I'd really appreciate.  Although,  the reality is, while I grew up taking organ lessons,  my playing is so lousy these days I feel like it's a waste of money to invest much, as like you, I have the organs that came with KOMPLETE 13, which are, to be completely frank,  completely meh.  

I've never played a real one, but I will say that IK's Hammond B-3X sounds very good to me and better than any other virtual options I've tried. It's fun to play too.

1 hour ago, Fleer said:

if all the requests get granted by each vendor

Definitely a step in the right direction by automating the process, but this one snippet still sits a little uneasily with that "if" wording. IMO ideally iLok as a platform should take responsibility for that as well, once an approved licence has been activated initially.

2 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

Thanks for asking because it prompted me to looking into Arturia's Ecosystem and found (1)  some free sounds for my Analog Lab Intro, (2) an offer to upgrade to Analog Lab V for $70, and (3) a whole lot of experience clicking buttons on the Arturia Website and in Analog Lab Intro. 

With only Analog Lab Intro and the Buchla Easel V, I can upgrade to Upgrade to the V Collection 9 for $499 via Auturia.  However, Music Software Deals lists it at two places for less.

I hope this information is useful to you.  Its the least I can do for inspiring me to look around at Arturia's Free Sounds!

I love that it prompted you to score some freebies and deals! This forum is great like that and easily my favourite ?

Enjoy your new sounds! Analog Lab V is a great and the upgrade goes on sale at times too. If you can, sweet talk them into giving you a Lab 4 license instead as it's got a heap more sounds and a few other benefits too from memory ? 

42 minutes ago, Fleer said:

A “newly launched” synth often gives you a $49 rebate on the next V Collection but I don't know it “older” synths also count. 

Thanks Fleer. I have noticed that does seem to be a bit of a trend.

Lars.. please go forth an hunt down some pricing errors on the newly added 4 synths from the collection! ? Haha..

4 minutes ago, antler said:

They could also make ZTD and replacements for dongles that haven't been physically damaged free.

A very good point. I also find it a little funny the thought of paying an annual fee for ZDT to protect the licenses of the software you already paid for.. almost sounds like WUP to me! ?

My preference is serial, or offline license file, so if the developers choose to go with iLok instead, then maybe they should pay for ZDT.. or like you said, iLok include it free.

But they seems to charge money whichever way they turn, so not sure I see that happening!

Maybe if the new open standard C.L.A.P plugin format gets off the ground the same group could look at an open license system based off blockchain and we could ditch iLok altogether ?

Out of curiosity, if I had grabbed this, would it have made any worthwhile reduction in the crossgrade price to V Collection 9? I've been toying with the idea of maybe picking that up at some stage.

Or would it be cheaper overall to just to wait and do the crossgrade instead?

So far I only have Pigments, Analog Lab and FX Collection 3 really.