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On 7/22/2022 at 11:18 PM, PhonoBrainer said:

Well, I know how compressors work. You fart around with knobs randomly, print a zillion mixes that are too crispy and baked and spitty to be heard in public, and then after 30 years you learn the simple lesson that less is more and that more knobs invite more inefficient rabbit-holes.

In that light, the simple S73 represents I think the biggest no brainer purchase in the history of plugins. I love that simple, simple plugin. Used correctly, it treats tracks with respect, it has sonic options, it allows a % of its application strength to a source, has a wet/dry mix knob, has an "add air" button. It is not the solution for every track (I actually use it on tracks, never on the master bus!) AND it isn't light on CPU. But it makes things sound great. $35 bucks, no brainer.

I've been waiting on the multiband 1973, that's a good sale too, but my Fab MB and Lindell 354e seem to cover that ground ok.

Great choices there for multiband and the Lindell is quite underrated.

S73 is great in it's own right. For anyone considering it though, I'd agree with Steven, that it's better to buy 1973.

The full 1973 also includes the presets from S73 so you can get the exact same sounds, but still have the ability to tweak them.

I don't normally look at presets for compressors, so I only recently discovered that. It was quite interesting to see exactly how they had made them for S73.

5 hours ago, TheSteven said:

I did and they referred me to the unlock sale happening this weekend.

The current unlock prices are consistent with what their Black Friday prices have been over the last several years.

Not a great response from them really. I get they don't have to, but in the same situation, a lot of companies might, when asked. Even if it was only $10 off or something as token gesture. I'd hazard a guess today it's likely not your only plugin of theirs, so for customer goodwill, it's not much.

20 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

"Can't have too many delays!"  So as a fan of delays and as fan of PSPs Voltage Modular Bundle (including their delays), I decided this small form factor plugin would be handy.  PACE/ilok took a while because I don't use it much. (Wasn't even installed on my current audio PC.)  I was concerned that the change log said MIDI Support was removed, but was please to see that the parameters are available via automation.  Not sure why, but mine was $17.99.

PS: I just saw that the JRRShop web page has details that I think contradict the 2022 Version History.  But who uses XP or Vista as their main audio PC these days.  Also, there was a free PianoVerb [not PianoVerb 2] in there.

Out of all the plugins to have too many of, I think delays and reverbs are the ones! They just have so much different soul and character. So do many plugins, but for me, it's just more pronounced than some of the others ?

The standard price is $17.99 when you add it to the cart. If you add the coupon code I mentioned, it reduces it a touch further. It doesn't make too much difference though, so it's not like you really missed out on much of a discount.

With JRR you can basically ignore the entire listing. It just gives you the code to be used on the PSP site, so you always get the latest version ?

I bought this and I still don't feel bad that it's free. I think I grabbed it to get something free from ADSR, but some of the 808s from this thing are actually half decent!

For free, definitely recommended ?

On 7/22/2022 at 1:42 PM, TheSteven said:

I got the S73 thinking there would at some point be an upgrade path to the 1973; there isn't.
This S73 isn't bad but it doesn't compare, if you need to tweak anything you're SOL. I mean if you have no understanding of how a compressor works and no interest in learning then it's probably your jam.
Otherwise, either get the 1973 or save your money.

That's a bit surprising about no upgraded path. in ways they seem very different, but it's all still based on the 1973. Have you tried contacting their support to see if they can offer something? It seems to me like there really should be an upgrade path too. Although in some ways Softube is really backwards with how they manage upgrades... just look at their Volumes... !

15 hours ago, Brian Walton said:

Yep except for non-resizable GUI,tied to ilok limitations and lack of mix control on the compressor but the overall sound is certainly covered.   

Some good points there Brian. They haven't worried me too much, although I'd much rather PA's auth over iLok, but there's no real getting away from iLok now for me.. Good call out for anyone considering the two though as people do feel quite strongly about a few of these.

PSP stompDelay Tape Delay Plugin ($16.79 @ JRRShop with code: GROUP)

https://www.jrrshop.com/psp-stompdelay

3 minutes ago, Fleer said:

Thanks. I also have the one from SSL. That’ll have to do

I think you're covered.. and then some! ?

11 minutes ago, Fleer said:

Everyone went crazy when the Console J came out. Is it still worth getting with all the other SSL channels around?

I think I prefer the SSL Native Channel Strip 2 personally which is kind of in that ballpark. But the PA 9000J has some cool features and is very clean sounding too, although it does include more controls for noise and saturation if you're wanting that at the time. They're both good. Just depends on the material. Neither of them are worth their crazy "retail" prices, but for their sale prices I like both.

It also depends on if you like using a channel strip, or prefer to choose all your own plugins. I tend to want to pick, but the strips on certain busses and instruments at times I enjoy as well. It also depends on whether you need another channel strip ?

22 minutes ago, stony said:

There is a "L" missing. ?

You need to pay WUP to get the extra "L" ?

A great reminder. For a free tape emulator, this thing is pretty decent and versatile.

Definitely suitable for less subtle tape and really making the effect stand out.

On 7/21/2022 at 1:30 AM, RSMcGuitar said:

Ooooh that's tempting

It was tempting.. but the temptation didn't last long until I caved ?

On 7/21/2022 at 4:33 AM, RSMcGuitar said:

But which of the two to get?? Hmm...

They both sound great and I'd be happy with either.

Personally I went with  X-Comp which at that price is a no brainer.. it came with Antares Choir free too. X-Comp is really nice and I like the high and low frequency bleed options in there, which isn't a common feature on most compressors. The adjustable knee allows for more shaping too.

X-Valve Comp is totally worth it as well. I did skip it though, as the saturation is after the compression circuit, which means I can use X-Comp which is more comprehensive and versatile and then simply add another saturation plugin after that. I already own SSL X-Saturator which sits nicely there, but also have plenty of options too.

I haven't entirely ruled out getting it anyway, but so far I'm happy with the one I grabbed alone. If AudioDeluxe change their freebie, it could sway me ?

13 minutes ago, Christian Jones said:

Thanks all. Seems every time I decide I want a particular library the dev just got done having the biggest sale they've ever had. 

At least with the sales merry-go-round it's safe to say they will all generally be back on sale at some stage soon normally ?

A few of the main sales periods aren't far away now.

3 hours ago, DrumDude said:

Anyone have any thoughts or experience with the Drawmer 1973?

I tend to reach for Fabfilter ProMB more due to speed and workflow, but 1973 is really nice and sounds great too. I like having both options and on some material it sounds better than ProMB for sure.

S73 actually sounds quite good too, even though I don't normally use those style of plugs as I often prefer more manual control. But in its space, it's a good one as well.

2 hours ago, Grem said:

Daymn, I am a little behind!!

Don't worry... So are Waves! ?

8 hours ago, kitekrazy said:

I guess that would change if you spent $4K on a Korg workstation.  That would leave out expenses to buy more stuff.

I suspect that may not be enough to slow down many of the members on here ?

On 7/18/2022 at 11:05 PM, Fleer said:

Then again, got Echobode from SonicCharge (and ValhallaDSP’s FreqEcho freebie). 

FreqEcho is a great plugin, especially for free, but it's not really that close at all to Hertzrider. It does allow you to shift, but there's no LFO, envelope and you can't manipulate the left and right channels, unless you used two instances with some additional routing.

I wasn't familiar with Echobode, but that looks nice too. From a quick look, that would get you closer, but same with FreqEcho, it doesn't appear to allow you to manipulate the left and right channels separately.

That's where Hertzrider shines. You can use it as a basic frequency shifter, add modulation with LFO etc, or use it like a swiss army knife to manipulate the frequencies differently on both left and right channels for greater depth, or creative stereo field movement and manipulation. So it can be used as a tool, or creatively as well. Interesting plugin. ?

On 7/18/2022 at 10:54 PM, Fleer said:

Dang. Cameron. Dang. 

He does some pretty great reviews and tutorials and it wouldn't be the first time I've picked up some insights from his videos that helped me pull the trigger on a purchase ?

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52 minutes ago, cclarry said:

But, if you buy from a Discounter, then you are supporting BOTH the Developer AND the Small Business.
Look at the BIG PICTURE!

But then they only get a small picture each, instead of one big picture ?

12 minutes ago, Jan Schmitz said:

You should really buy this on their site for the same price and support the developer:

https://pulsar.audio/mu

That's a good point really.. if it's the same price I agree and will normally buy direct from developers.

9 minutes ago, cclarry said:

Something to remember.  Free products don't count towards "upgrades" so, while the group buys are 
certainly great, they're not of much benefit otherwise.  Once you've got 'em...that's it.

Yeah their upgrade policy is bizarre.. IMO they would sell a HEAP more software if they counted them for upgrades too..

I can't see any real need to upgrade anything I own from them (which feels almost like I own everything thanks to a previous group buy ?) but that aspect would make them more enticing as a company if I felt the need right now.

24 minutes ago, LittleStudios said:

With a sale like this, basically almost giving away there whole T-Racks library, makes me wonder if it's a last stab to grab some quick cash before releasing a new version T-Racks 6 or a discontinuation of T-Racks all together.  Maybe a whole new product line.

...or maybe not.

IK cops some flack, some of which is definitely deserved, but they're the reigning champions of group buys and giveaway truckloads of software, including some of their newly released plugins and instruments at times.

I couldn't rule out TR6 coming out soon, but I can't imagine them discontinuing it given how long it's been around for and how successful it is.

And even if they did release TR6, I would definitely not be surprised to see that in a group buy pretty damn soon after its release too ?

Out if curiosity, what's the cheapest it ever gets to? I've seen €99 a number of times.

57 minutes ago, kitekrazy said:

 So how many "the only synth You'll ever need" are out there?

Definitely more than one it seems ?