MusicMan

I tried the limiter a few times now and it's not too bad really. Not a bad freebie and I am looking forward to watching the replay of the sessions too.

Thanks Brian! That's really helpful ? Looking forward to checking some of these out and having another proper go at it!

Do you have the links to specific Wreck ones and any other of your favourites in ToneX Brian? I've approached ToneX a few times, but it's been a bit hit and miss so far, but I'd like to check it out further.

I'd happily support a Waves ban so they get no free advertising here at all ?

This is the correct way ?

I've been thinking about that too.. they obviously shafted all their users in the process, but also all their resellers that have supported them over so many years even when they've become the joke of the industry. They appear to have been able to poorly handle any of their relationships all at once.. I hope they at least look after their developers and any suppliers!

100%... I had been toying with the idea of upgrading to the Abbey Road Collection, but after their move I'm really glad I didn't spend more money with them.. Their next shafting is probably already being discussed and planned in their boardroom. I never have WUPd and would definitely recommend people don't immediately reward their customer hostile moves they've displayed through this whole fiasco. Let them stew and see what happens and encourage them to apologise with more than empty words. In short, don't buy and don't WUP and see what they bring to the table. Definitely check the alternates list as well. There's some better non Waves options in there ?

One could argue Waves has always been faulty.. come to think of it, I can somewhat imagine Basil Fawlty and Manuel and the team running it.. it could explain a lot ? I have wondered about the legal side of things from Waves and this change. They would want to hope they have that rock solid, otherwise it could get very costly.

This is quite possibly the most cynical thing I've read today.. also the most accurate thing for the day too! Haha.. Your overall post was all on the money, but I definitely had a laugh reading this part in particular ? There's a lot of old dinosaurs mentality where they still think they're king and haven't reassessed the current market and competition which is definitely a recipe for running the companies into the ground.

I'm sure we've all been there and missed out on things like that. I know I definitely have!

That has been unusual from them.. especially as they really do so much right. It's probably one of their few limitations. I have wondered if they're maybe trying to release the VST3 versions all at once, but if they can, they should release them as soon as each one is completed. Maybe it's a common framework for them, or they've had trouble resolving some bugs. Personally I'm waiting until they update as well before buying any more as I almost exclusively use VST3 now, but I do like them and their plugins.

Very worth it. Love this one and has such a nice warm sound ?

It sends a message, that people won't stand for it.. they rely heavily on digital marketing and so a huge drop in subscribers is a very bad metric for them. Especially when the cost to attract a new customer is orders of magnitude higher than the cost of selling to an existing customer. I've unsubscribed ? Later Waves... Sack you CEO... They're an idiot ?

Oh I think they've got a lot of experience in making dumb choices, so if there's an idiotic choice to be made.. these guys have the skills to do it ?

Oh wow.. I did wonder about the price and whether it was definitely right, so I made sure I got in pretty quick, but it seemed like it was intentional in the end and I expected it would've been available to the end date.. That's a shame.

I remember saying that I wouldn't bother starting to use their free sampler, or studio rack in projects because they would move the goalposts and do something shady.. and well here we are.. glad I expected them to suck and they did not disappoint..

From what I was reading it's how it's implemented in DAWs for real-time audio. Quite possibly a carry over from early designs they haven't re-engineered yet, but that's only a guess. But essentially if you have a track with 10 CPU intensive plugins and then another track that had no plugins, or a few light CPU ones, that both feed into the same FX bus, the light track (and therefore it's thread) can't complete until both are ready and due to latency and CPU usage that can have a snowball effect of tying up more and more resources as things wait. And nothing wrong with appreciating some of the geeky stuff like that ?

Waves... "Hold my beer.. you think this is as low as we could go?! You should see the next shady idea we've got planned. Our slogan at Waves is "We hate customers, upsetting Waves of them at a time, wherever we can""

Not cheap to add their reverbs either.. Could be interesting to see an effect type "strip" from these guys too, which then could be used independently and on sends. Ideally PSP could just add it to Infiniti though as then it would be free for me ?

It definitely was, but with today's CPUs, it can actually be the reverse and less efficient from a compute perspective. Because of multi threading, by using sends, it can take longer for the thread to complete the entire signal path apparently, whereas if it's limited to just the track, the thread has no other dependencies to be completed before freeing it up. But I'm still going to stick to using sends predominantly anyway and I like the workflow ?

If you consider the concept of what it's emulating, it's really not too surprising. FX has more often than not, not been a function of the channel strip, but more sends from the channel to it. Slate VMR and most of the others don't have FX in their channel strip. Normally it's about pres, EQs/filters, comps/dynamics and colour and stuff. The main exception is IK's Mixbox. Even without them it's great value though ?

I thought the same thing.. if this also included some of their reverbs in particular, it would definitely be even stronger compared to Mixbox. But overall it's a really great option in comparison anyway and I more often use reverbs and delays on sends, so it would be using multiple instances anyway. These guys almost always make great stuff. Looking forward to using this one more ?

I had even considered it at $79 and less for loyalty discount, but at $49 it was an easier choice. Some nice inserts for sure and the same kind of things as other devs, but still a little different to others around as well. That new EQ they added can be very cool in shaping tone and if they add anything else it could become even better value as time goes on.

And this is why you shouldn't ask AI to write your business plan Waves ? Sometimes I wonder if Waves is a money laundering company and with legitimate customers buying plugins there's too much additional money for them to wash so they need to deter us! Either way, epic (but not surprising for them) fail on Waves part.. I'll never subscribe with them so they will never see any money from me in future...

I ended up pulling the trigger on this one the other day. I really like it. I do own a number of PSP plugins, but this added some of the ones I didn't have all for only $49 and it came in a nice channel strip interface.