Ronman

1 hour ago, 57Gregy said:

So, you want to extend an event all the way to the end, or the start, not just go to the end or the start, correct?
FWIW, Shift+Alt+F6 does nothing on my machine that I can see.

Almost.  I don't extend an event, I extend the selection by first selecting one or more events, then Shift-Alt-F6,  and it keeps that selection but also selects everything else all the way to the end.  I didn't create the shortcut, it just worked once it was pointed out to me.

Sometime in the past someone here, wish I could name them, told me about the Shift+Alt+F6 shortcut to extend a selection from a selected MIDI event in the PRV all the way to the end.  Lifesaver!

Now I'm looking for a similar shortcut that goes the other direction, from a selected event all the way to the beginning.  I don't find it in the cheat sheets of shortcuts I've found.  Where's it listed (if it exists)?

What's the easiest workflow for splitting the lowest notes of a track off into a separate track?  I looked through the CAL programs and context menus but didn't see anything.

a) I agree with @Will., it's the reset of the dock that's the problem.  I want to tell it, never dock, no matter what I do, even if I beg and scream...until I change the option.

b) I thought @msmcleod's pointer to the Windows magnifier would do what I want, but no.  It magnifies the whole screen, losing context of where you are in the bigger picture; and when you just need it for a second, you have to do the key combination to make it go away.  I like rather the midi magnifier way.

Good info. 

Let me clarify one item.  You said, "If you don't want something docked, un-dock it, close it and save as a custom workspace.   Alternatively just hit "D" to hide the multi-dock."

I don't want to close the dock window, I just want to be able to move it anywhere on the screen without the turquoise background coming up to indicate that it's going to be docked at the top or the bottom of the screen.

Here's my wish list:

• I'm constantly wondering about this or that control or feature, but the documentation is so voluminous and hard to search that I resist looking it up.  How about a context search?  Not another icon, please, just that when you hover over anything, the option to press F1 or some other function key and it automatically opens up the documentation to the section that describes that thing.
• I spend a lot of time trying to move my house just one or two pixels to click on some tiny control.  How about a magnifier that works for the entire UI, not just MIDI editing?
• And a default that if you press an arrow key while the mouse button is depressed, it moves the cursor one pixel.
• And an option on the docket window in addition to the existing options for "docket top",  "docket bottom" that says "never docket".  I'm always moving that window around to be able to see a track underneath or an instrument config panel and it's a pain to have to remember to press the control key to prevent docking, and it takes an extra hand to do so.
• And a context menu on Arranger Sections for moving either end of the Section to the Now marker.

What's the usual way to do this?  I want to add a little compression on the Master, but automate it so that I can vary the amount for different sections.

@msmcleod   "Select Track Envelopes With Clips" worked for volume automation, but not for dynamics automation.  I'll keep the idea of creating an arranger section for this, but I've found arranger sections hard to work with in the past because there's no function I know of to move the ends of the section precisely to the Now time.  (And also seems like a lot of work just to play with timing and spacings in the process of composition.)

@reginaldStjohn  Using Ripple Edit worked to slide both volume and dynamics automation.  The valuable doc page you linked to (tnx) gives scary warnings about unintended consequences, but I'm going to use it and see; too much of a time-saver not to try.

I searched in the user's manual pdf and found only one instance for 'slide'.

What's happening is that when I select a track or several tracks and slide them, with 'Events in Tracks' checked, it slides the Events as expected, but all the automation tracks are left alone, so now the automation doesn't match the events.

How do I slide automation along with notes?

By the way, what is "Events in Tracks" there?  Why else would I have chosen Slide?

14 hours ago, Jimbo 88 said:

Yes, so the very simple solution is to "save as" another file.  Have CbB versions of both. 

My advice to anyone working in any DAW is to save multiple versions of any project you are working on.  You have no idea when a file is going to become corrupt. Whether or not you are creating different versions. I only mention this because it sounds like you are not familiar with this concept and It is not a matter of will it happen, but when...in any DAW.

 

I've been a software developer for 30 years so I'm very aware of the need for backup.  That being said, in the DAW world it's true I've gotten lazy about backups in the rush to finish an arrangement, which, as you know, is a never-ending quest.

I'm finding that exporting  Arrangement sections one at a time to digital audio to be edited in Audacity is much easier than working in Cakewalk alone, per @John Vere's suggestion.  However, it still seems strange that Cakewalk doesn't have a command for moving either end of an Arrangement section to precisely coincide with the Now marker (or perhaps one tick away to allow a subsequent section to coincide).  If I was working with digital audio in Cakewalk it would be even more of an issue, after taking the trouble to find a clean ending spot in the waveform to end a section, then you also have to tweak the boundary of the corresponding section, almost certainly not getting it exact by just using a mouse drag.

I've exported the whole file to Audacity and edited as a wave file.  Much more enjoyable than doing it in Cakewalk, but I lose the labeling of Arrangement sections.  But I think you're saying another way is to export each Arrangement section as a separate wave file,  then assemble them in Audacity or another wave editor.  I'm not clear why I would want to bring them back in to Cakewalk, though.

On 1/20/2022 at 1:56 PM, Jimbo 88 said:

Cake is great for this type of project...at least it is for me.  The ripple edit makes this easy.  The only issue i have had in the past doing this sort of thing is Tempo and other automation getting cut.  Like a volume will off because it was programed in the middle of what was just cut.  So keep that and mind and most of the time you can cut things down very quickly.  A feature I rarely hear about, but I use all the time is "Fit to Time".

Good luck!

Doesn't using ripple edit in this way destroy the original full-length version, as you said by cutting automation, if not other things.  I need the full version as-is, plus extracted from various parts shorter versions as well.  For example, a 15 sec cutdown might consist of 5 secs. from three different spots that fit together musically but are not contiguous in the full-length version, plus an automated reverb in the last fraction of a second to make the end not sound abrupt.

I'll answer my own post.

I replaced the AmpleSound VST3 plugin with the VST2 plugin for the same instrument.  So far, so good.

I'm making cut downs, 15sec, 30sec, 60sec, etc.  What would really, really help are three things.  Are these currently possible?

1. In the Arranger Track, automatically extend one or the other end of a section to precisely the position of the Now pointer (not using drag, which is inaccurate if you're not zoomed way in).
2. In the Arrangement Inspector, it currently shows the total time, but also show the time of each section.  Then I could see ways to split and combine sections to come up with the needed lengths.
3. Increase/decease the tempo slightly ONLY for the arrangement, in order to make the total seconds come out right.

I've been using the same version of the AGSJ guitar from AmpleSound successfully for a year, but suddenly Cakewalk can't find it when loading a project in which it has worked before.  

I'm on Cakewalk  version 2021.12, build 102, 64-bit

I've cross-posted to the AmpleSound forum, but the exception code pertains to Cakewalk, thus this post.

I have four tracks using this plugin, only one fails.

First I did a 3-hour scan of the hard drive for bad sectors, none found. Then I deleted the plugin file and re-installed, same issue, but with a different track.  One time it also crashed the entire DAW, which saved a core dump (attached), along with the following notice:

Cakewalk Plug-in Crash Dump (c:\program files\common files\VST3\AGSJ.vst3)
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Dump File: C:\Users\ronne\AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk\Cakewalk Core\MiniDumps\Plugins\_01122022_192207.dmp
Exception Code: c0000005d
Faulting Module: c:\program files\common files\VST3\AGSJ.vst3
App Version: 27.12.0.102
User: ron
IsPluginCrash: 1
Total Phys Mem 50322548 KB
Avail Phys Mem 43877220 KB

My OS info
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Edition Windows 10 Pro
Version 21H1
Installed on ‎7/‎7/‎2020
OS build 19043.1466
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3920.0

_01122022_192207.dmp

@John Vere  But I don't want to click everything in the track.  I want to click everything from a selected event onward, in a track that's a duplicate of another, but unlinked.  That's the tremendous value of Shift-Alt-F6, or was.

Argh, I left out a crucial detail in my original post.  The behavior of selecting all tracks in addition to the one I'm working on only happens when selecting from Now to End using Shift-Alt-F6.  Please see the video below.  The behavior is identical whether Preferences -> Editing -> "Copy Entire Clips As Linked Clips" is set or not.

The Shift-Alt-F6 command is one I use constantly and a major reason I use Cakewalk.

I have many tracks of MIDI instruments (no audio).  I want to insert one measure of silence in the middle, across all tracks.  So I select everything in all tracks from a certain point to the end, and do one of two things:

a) Process->Slide

But this only gives an option for sliding events, not automation.

b) Project -> Insert Time/Measures

This slides automation along with events, but not everything.  For example, it's sliding the volume automation lane but leaving my Kontakt Dynamics automation in the original location.

How do I slide everything?

Yes, using latest version.  Go into PRV on track 2 before dragging the clip to the new position, and drag-select something, then press the delete key.  Does it also delete within track 1?

When I duplicate a MIDI instrument track, checking the "Events" box but NOT checking the "Link to original" box, it acts as if linked.  That is, if I select MIDI events in the new track, it automatically selects the similar events in the original track.   If I delete something in the new track, it's also deleted in the original.

However, if I select both tracks and right-click, "Unlink" is greyed out, indicating the Cakewalk doesn't consider them linked but is behaving as if they are.

If I delete a MIDI event in the new track using a left click in PRV, it works as desired, i.e. only deletes in that track.  But that's a tedious way to go.

I would like an option to turn off docking completely in views (piano roll, console, etc.).  Currently you must remember to hold down the Ctrl key when moving the  window upward on the screen.

I use the Notes pane to work on lyrics.  This is way before they're ready to be input as lyrics tied to the music.  It's just a scratchpad.  But I'm constantly having to close and open that pane to save the work-in-progress, and most importantly, I can't quickly scroll using the mouse wheel.  Please make the Notes pane respond to the mouse wheel.

I use Ctrl-drag to tell the console/piano roll/staff view window to not dock when I'm dragging it upward on the screen.  But it's a pain to always have to remember to press the Ctrl key.  How can I tell Cakewalk to never, ever, even if I beg and scream, dock that window?

I very commonly use Shift+Alt+F6 in Piano Roll view to select from the currently selected MIDI note to the end.   That used to work.  But lately, it selects within not only the current track but all tracks!  A dangerous proposition.  I haven't found anything in the manual about this.

If I select within the track view, it works as expected, but not if selecting within the Piano Roll view.