Simeon Amburgey

11 hours ago, Dave Schreier said:

IK couldn't reproduce the crash and just kind of left it there for now suggesting contacting CW - I have just now.

Seems odd with all the reports of that here, no?

...Dave

OK,

I just tried inserting the VST2 version into a previous project that crashed using the VST3 and the VST2 of MODO Drum loads without crashing!

On 8/9/2019 at 12:49 AM, Dave Schreier said:

Same here - vst3 crashes CbB - vst2 works though.  I did report to IK with links to the message and dump file.

@Dave Schreier, have you had any progress on the VST3 issue!

it seems the VST3 of MODO Drum works in a new project but I get the same crash when trying to insert it into an older project.

Going to try with the VST2 version to see if I get the same results on an existing project.

@Marcos Kleine, just installed MODO Drum this morning.

There does seem to be an issue when using the VST3 version of MODO Drum. I loaded the VST3 into a new empty project and it worked fine BUT I got the exact same crash message you indicated above. I am going to try using the VST2 and see what happens.

I have submitted a ticket as well and hopefully to follow up soon and forward the crash mini dumps to support in hopes they can see what is causing the issue.

@Ryan IK Multimedia, so I am really loving things so far, MODO Drum really sounds amazing!
I did have a question however  on Brush playing styles as I did not see this as an option. That would really be interesting to have this especially for the Jazzy Kits. btw I hope you were able to get me earlier messages. I tried to send an email but it mentioned the address was invalid.

Thanks again!

Here we go!
This is running the VST3 version .

First sounds are HUGE and just have this depth to them.
Drums may never be the same  

More to come!

1 minute ago, Ryan IK Multimedia said:

Yes, this is correct. You're good to go!

The download and the installation combined will take about 20GB of space, which is why we suggest having some extra room.

Beat me to it 😎

Installing NOW!
Can't wait to experience it !

On 8/13/2019 at 12:31 PM, Craig Anderton said:

Waves makes great stuff. Have fallen totally in love with the Abbey Road Chambers reverb

Totally agree, love Chambers. I really enjoy using it on a string bus as it just gives them something special. Pushing drums through it as well is amazing,

Jim, gonna have to pull the zombie channel up as well. Thanks for sharing.

I have an iRIG Keys io 49 and it is really a nice portable keyboard that works great along with an iPad or iPhone. The keys have a nice feel.

Learning more each day about Gullfoss. I have been working through a lot of misconceptions based on early experiences; especially my reference to using Pink Noise.

While this is a technique many have used in the past as a mix and balance tool Gullfoss definitely does not go there. I am still wrapping my head around this as I know many other Gullfoss users are. 

I found a very fascinating article recently interviewing Andreas Tell who is the lead developer for Gullfoss and it is a very good read full of a lot of info to help all of us  to gain more insight on this amazing plugin.

https://www.prosoundnetwork.com/pro-sound-news-blog/gullfoss-inventor-andreas-tell-tells-all

31 minutes ago, razor7music said:

OK, I see. Maybe they are trying to future-proof it for when/if their units start shipping with TB3 ports. I see that UA is selling a TB3 upgrade kit for their Apollo rack mounts--so my guess is they know it coming and they're getting ready. Maybe?

Well, I just found out that the Thunderbolt is for the Clarett series   
but who knows what the future holds ?????  

1 minute ago, razor7music said:

I see that the 4i4 has a USB-C port, but that is showing as a USB port--not the TB port. I'm not sure I understand what you mean it supports the native TB driver?

When I was installing my 4i4 here at home I did a full installation the first time and saw a Scarlett 4i4 Thunderbolt driver in Device Manager. I had a couple of hiccups on my initial installation so I removed it and installed again but this time performing a custom installation selecting only the USB driver. So it appears that the 3rd Gen products support Thunderbolt in some way by providing a separate Thunderbolt driver; that is if I am understanding this correctly but it sure seems reasonable.

VI Labs home of the Ravenscroft 275 (and other wonderful piano libraries) is having their Summer sale until September 2nd. Their pianos use the UVI engine and iLok activation.

More information here:

https://www.vilabsaudio.com/

2 hours ago, razor7music said:

Yeah, I just upgraded my laptop at work and I'm connected to my port replicator via a Thunderbolt 3 (USB C-type) connection. I did a bit of research because I'm a geek, and man, that Thunderbolt 3 is amazing. Fast, and can carry so many different types of data. I'm starting to lean towards a Thunderbolt 3 type audio interface.

Of course, that's when my Echo Layla 3G dies or becomes obsolete. I'll also have to consider the cost of adding a new expansion to my DAW for a TB 3 port--since I don't have that now. Of course I'll do my geeky research on all the pros and cons first.

Well, the USB C on the 4i4 also supports a native Thunderbolt driver which is amazing that it is forward compatible with the high speed ports.

I am praying for some  projects to come to allow me to upgrade my production computer  
I do think that Thunderbolt, USB C are definitely the future and what an amazing one it potentially can be.

8 hours ago, Simeon Amburgey said:

I have a few Rice Krispies going on so I am going to check the USB bus assignments making sure the 4i4 is on a dedicated channel but so far it is  has been an amazing experience.

Although it was on one of the Intel USB 3 buses it did not seem to like port 1. Using the USB Tree app I was  able to make sure it stayed in its own channel and moved it to port 2 which did the trick; krackles be gone!

I am discovering more and more how a dedicated USB bus and port makes all of the difference (even on a MacBook as I found out the hard way).

There is still somewhat of getting used to the way the interface works but so far it has been a real pleasure. There is an ease in going to different sample rates and buffer sizes that feels more fluid than what I have previously experienced.

The biggest game changer is what I mentioned earlier; responsiveness and performance at low latency. It just makes me feel more connected to my instrument.

OK!!!!

So back home and plugged the Scarlett 4i4 into my setup. 
When I first installed the drivers and launched Cakewalk it already came up with 48k and a buffer size of 128 and 2.7 ms latency; I was completely blown away at the responsiveness that I was experiencing.

The first thing I tried was loading one of the 11 + GB Pianos in SampleTank 4 which previously would not play unless I had a minimum buffer size of 256. The Scarlett  just made everything feel like I was playing a brand new instrument.

I have a few Rice Krispies going on so I am going to check the USB bus assignments making sure the 4i4 is on a dedicated channel but so far it is  has been an amazing experience.

Thanks for allowing me to vent, share, ramble. There is surely more to come...a lot more!

2 hours ago, Max Arwood said:

Philharmonik 2! 

Nice always wanted something like that. 

Is the current price of 249 a good price?

Looking at smart:Eq   And smart:comp tonight. They are only at v 1.???  Kind of new.  

EQ is working Compressor keeps locking up and after save it doesn’t want to reopen.

Still like Gullfloss with AAMS best.

Max Arwood

They are having a special sale at the moment where you could get the crossgrade price of $149

https://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/?item_id=7983

I posted in the DEALS section that Audioplugin Deals was running a special on smart: EQ2,  smart: COMP and some other Sonible plugins.

https://audioplugin.deals/developer/sonible/

This looks like a great opportunity for those looking at Sonible’s smart:EQ2 and smart:Comp. This sale offers a bundle for $129 and my email listed $116 as a subscriber.

check it out.

https://audioplugin.deals/developer/sonible/

1 hour ago, msmcleod said:

The difference between the two CPU / latency wise, and indeed in terms of quality is negligible.

Strictly speaking, 48Khz is slightly better latency wise, but slightly higher CPU wise - but the difference really is negligible.

The only real reason two choose one over the other is the destination format-  in other words if you're targeting CD's, then 44.1Khz is best as that's what CD's use, whereas video quite often is at 48Khz.

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So I am going to experiment with 48k for a while and see how it goes and will follow up.

Thanks again!

OK,

So I know this is probably the most basic of questions but I really respect the opinions of this amazing group of musicians and creators. 

So as you know from my earlier post I found myself switching interfaces while out on the road. When I first started things up, the interface (Focusrite Scarlett 4i4) was 48k by default. 

I am wondering what the pros and cons are as far as performance in CPU and latency since in my current situation playing virtual instruments in a live setting. 

You would think after all of these years I would have figured it out by now but it never hurts to get new perspective. 

I can’t wait to try the 4i4 when I get back to my home setup. 

Thanks. 

1 hour ago, SynthManDan said:

Thx for the reply.  How’s the install?  Is it pretty straightforward or kinda finicky?

SMD

 

You have to set up an account on IK Multimedia's website as this is where you will download all of the application and sound resources. You also use IK's Authorization Manager as well to activate the plugin and sound library.

CE is a great way to get some of the Philharmonik 2 sounds but IK Multimedia is running a special Summer Sale where you can get the full version for $149 which is a very good deal especially for all of the additional sample content (over 58 GB; CE has only 10GB) that is included (including sounds from the original Philharmonik).

https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/index.php?R=INIT&FV=miroslav-philharmonik-2-family-related-products&CV=Other Filter&PSEL=miroslavphilharmonik

So all went well with the Scarlett 4i4!

I was very impressed with how it performed and its smaller form factor. Being BUS-POWERED and with the MIDI In/Out jacks in the rear panel was a plus. The PreSonus Studio 6|8 requires an external power supply as it uses their Class A preamps (which sound great by the way). The MIDI and digital in and out are on a breakout cable (using a 9 pin DIN connector) which adds extra overhead with setup. In this situation, the PreSonus seems better suited for use in a  stationary environment with the 4i4 being a better choice for times I have to be mobile. It is the age-old principle of finding the right tool for the right application. I have included a couple of pics below to illustrate the form factor difference.

My past experiences using PreSonus interfaces have been very positive. Their build quality is rock solid and their drivers continue to improve bringing additional performance boosts and stability. The Guitar Center did not have any PreSonus interfaces on hand or I might have looked at one of the smaller interfaces like the PreSonus Studio 24c as it looked like it would be appropriate for this particular situation. 

Thanks again for allowing me to share, with the hope it might help someone who could be faced with a similar situation. 

11 minutes ago, razor7music said:

I've looked at the Scarlett line and I was equally impressed. So much so that when my Layla 3G dies, I'll probably end up buying the 4i4.

I can't seem to mentally get it out of my head that I'm going to be increasing my round-trip latency going from a PCI connection to a USB--but I'm sure I'll get over it.

I know the feeling.
After my original SoundBlaster LIVE, I moved to an ECHO GINA interface which was amazing for me at the time. ECHO really seemed to have had it together and was so disappointed when they got out of the interface business. I also used their Firewire interface and was not able to continue using it because of Mac OS changes.

One of the things I am looking forward to testing for sure when I get things going again is comparing the latency/performance of the 4i4 over the Studio 6|8. Presonus recently updated their Universal Control driver package and it seemed to give me a boost in how the Studio 6|8 performed.

Stay tuned for updates as they develop.  

Well, the road can throw you some curves and I am navigating through one at the moment. 
These unplanned adventures can go in so many ways so I am hoping this one results in a good outcome.

I normally travel with my PreSonus Studio 6|8 which is a built like a tank interface. On a recent trip, however, it looks as if the Main Output control was bent somehow during handling. There have been some unusual audio problems I am not absolutely sure to trace back to the Studio 6|8 but could not take any chances so I had to find some type of backup plan.

I had been very interested in the new 3rd Gen Scarlett series from Focusrite and the Guitar Center closest to where I am staying had them in stock. I needed at least 2 additional audio inputs and MIDI support and the 4i4 seemed to be right for the job. I have not had a chance to go to the venue to troubleshoot the Presonus but I can tell you already that I am VERY impressed with the 4i4!

It is BUS Powered using a USB C connector to standard USB 2.0/3 adapter and has MIDI In and Out on the rear panel which is great. The form factor is a little over 1/3 the size of the Studio 6|8 which is great to pack it into my carry on and not worry about things getting mishandled.

My road computer is a mid-2013 MacBook Pro (sorry 🙈)I mainly use it to run HALionSonic 3, Omnisphere and Kontakt 6.
I can't wait to see how it works not only on the MacBook but also when I have it working with my Windows setup at home.

I will definitely follow up with more of my experiences.
Please let me know if any of you have worked with the Scarlett 3rd Gens as well; I would love to hear your feedback.

11 hours ago, Max Arwood said:

Could you tell us what you like about these and which you have been using the most.

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Well have not been able to do much the past few days but I am liking Gullfoss a lot. It seems to do something very subtle and you can definitely hear the difference and like I mentioned before having the iZotope Metering and Tonal Balance Control really gives you more confirmation of what it was doing. Also one of the really cool features of the iZotope products is that they can talk to each other so I can have the Tonal Balance Control pulled up and make adjustments to Ozone inside of and see the results right away. 

The understanding of the Gullfoss terminology is still a work in progress but trial and error have been very good teachers. When I get back to the studio I am going to try Audio Mastering System. I am also looking into the possibility of some of the other "auto" or "AI" EQs and Compressors so we shall see.

11 hours ago, Max Arwood said:

 I just moved and my new mixing room is REALLY bad. The worst I have ever mixed in. 

 

Well, I would say as others have mentioned in the past that the room is very critical and plugins really can't do much to improve the physical aspects of your space. I would check to see what the biggest offenders are in causing it to sound bad and try to address those as it will drive you nuts trying to work around some of these things. I think that is one of my issues as well and looking for ways to address reflections, frequency nodes, etc.

11 hours ago, Max Arwood said:

Watched your orchestra demo last night- really good. 

 

Which one; Philharmonik 2?

Thanks so much for the input. It is an amazing journey; the joy of hearing something click is worth jumping through all of the learning curve's hoops, highs, and lows.