Tom B

I found this reference to Nectar 3 Plus  on the Izotope web site.  The first topic says Nectar 3  Plus is  a "forthcoming" update (with RX8 breath control).  The second topic is a bit confusing to me because it's not what I'm seeing on my Product Portal. 

I found two interesting pieces of information on the Izotope web site:

1.)  In the Ozone 9 documentation,  under the heading Plug-in Module, it says, "... Add the Plug-in module to choose an iZotope plug-in to add to your signal chain."   This seems to imply the 'Plugin Module' is used primarily to allow other Izotope VSTs to be used with the Ozone 9 standalone application.

2.) However, it appears some third party  VSTs will work with the Ozone plugin module too.  See this article on the Izotope web site  Third Party Compatibility in Ozone .  It says Waves is not supported in the Ozone standalone application.  It also says some VSTs won't work properly.  I don't know if this information is current. 

I may have misinterpreted the information.  However, this information would explain the various results we are seeing with Ozone's plugin module.  I suppose someone could contact Izotope to clarify. 

In my case, none of my VST3 plugins were found when scanning, but I don't have many VST3s.  Not all of my VST2 plugins are found.  I usually use Ozone 9 as a plugin inside a DAW, and not as a standalone app.  

7 hours ago, Zo said:

Thks , didn t knew that there was no limit on the new version , gas on ! (Last thing i needed ....)

Tom , any other vst 3 plugin working or only vst  2 are usuable 

Zo, I will try some other VST3 plugins later today.   I'm wondering whether anyone else was successful with loading VST3 plugins. 

I did a quick experiment using external plugins with Ozone 9 Advanced as a stand-alone application.  Like others observed, scanning would not load the Waves plugins. The scan found my UAD plugins.  The UAD plugins are VST2;  Waves are VST 3.  Is there a problem with Ozone using external VST3 plugins?   I had my paths set to the  proper VST2 and VST3 plugin locations.  

Another observation: I used two UAD external plugins in the Ozone project. The real-time graphics (e.g. meters) on the two UAD plugins were sluggish.  There weren't any audio problems with two external plugins.

3 hours ago, bjornpdx said:

Can't even get on jrr site the past 24 hrs or so.  Keep getting this error msg     Have I been singled out or is it same for everyone?

There has been an error processing your request

SQLSTATE[HY000] [2002] Connection refused

Yes, same error for me.  I have been trying to get to JRR Shop since yesterday afternoon (PDT) with no luck.  

15 minutes ago, ensconced said:

Me to, (even though I'm only likely to get a few months use out of it)

As to the price, I'll bet on $149.99

I'm thinking the same.  It was $149 for the Version 4 upgrade.  I found a receipt for V4 at 50% off, but that was during a Black Friday sale.  Kind of a long wait!

Any thoughts on the API 2500 bus compressor plugin?   I've been demo'ing  it, and used it on a "rock" drum bus with good results.  Seems like it would work well in other contexts too.  I like the added controls for:  parallel mix,  compression curves, etc.   I have the UA1176 plugin collection and trying to determine if those cover similar ground (without the extra controls found on the 2500).  

@garybrun    Some of your UA compressors could be updated to the latest (non-legacy) versions.  If I'm reading your list correctly, the Fairchild and 1176s are the "legacy" versions.  UA's "Analog Classics Pro Bundle"  has the latest  versions those compressors.  The bundle includes other plugins which you already have the latest versions.  However, UA usually discounts packages based on what you already own. 

There are also separate 'Fairchild' and '1176 Collections'.   I remember getting a discount on those collections because I owned the "legacy" versions.  But, that was a few years ago.

The non-legacy Fairchild 670 plugin has two very useful features:  1.) Mix control for parallel compression;  2.) Adjustable Side-chain Filter which adjusts how the low-end triggers the compression.  

Then again, you could wait for the usual end-of-year sale!  

Thanks for the information  @Craig Fowler  and @LasWaltz.

I'm currently demo'ing two UAD plugins, and will purchase the first one separately in hopes of an additional coupon.  

During past sales,  UAD has sometimes added another discount voucher to my account after a plugin has been purchased.  Has anyone seen this happen during the current sale?   I've also seen UAD  add vouchers after a sale is over -- which is not as enticing!

1 hour ago, Toffo said:

Does WUP ever go more than 25% off?

I WUP'd some plugins  a year ago when Waves offered a 25% discount.  I don't remember seeing any other WUP deals since then.  Perhaps someone can confirm whether there have been additional WUP discounts over the past year.

In cclarry's original post, it seems like one of the retailers may be able to offer a modest additional discount.  Not sure what the process is for this.  Perhaps clicking on the link in the original post explains the process.

Slight topic drift ... have any of you tried the SD3  "Decades"  SDX expansion pack  by Al Schmitt ?    

1 hour ago, RSMcGuitar said:

Very cool!

Did he announce this?

I received e-mail from Wampler, today, announcing the plugins.  I haven't downloaded any of them yet.  Hoping to hear what others think about them first 🙂

I did a simple search for "waves disconnected device",  and saw plenty of results.   

Does this link on the Waves Tech Support site help?   If not, there were plenty of other sites listed in the search.  

6 hours ago, bjornpdx said:

Don't know about the UFX but my UCX came with a power supply which is rated 100-240v 50/60 hz  input and 12v 2amp output.
However I never use it since the UCX is powered by firewire connection to the computer.   I think you need the power supply if using USB.

 

6 hours ago, Christian Jones said:

Yeah, I actually meant the UCX, not the UFX. I suspect they're the same power wise 

Regarding the Fireface UFX ... the  UFX has an internal power supply and  has a standard IEC power connector which can accept 100VAC to 240VAC.   My UFX is an older model.  I don't know whether the AC power spec's changed with the later UFX II or UFX+ models.

Looks like the UCX has an external power supply.

FYI,  the manuals are available on the RME site.

I wonder how the plugin sounds vis-a-vis the CrushStation running in the H9 effects pedal?    

I wonder whether the signal, driving the VST plugin, is lower than the signal driving the stand-alone version.  Ideally, the signals would be the same level.  Does the stand-alone version have an input gain control which is affecting levels?

You could experiment by increasing the track signal level using the 'gain' knob at the top of the channel strip (after recording).  Alternatively,  the track signal level can be changed using  the menu "Process > Apply Effect > Gain".   

I don't have the BIAS amp sim and can't test the above suggestions.  

I'm guessing the waveform level at the start of the loop is at a different level than the end, and you're getting a large transient when the loop repeats. This could  definitely generate a  pop/crack.

You could try setting snap-to-zero-crossings under Preferences.   

Type 'p' and navigate to:  Customization, Snap to Grid, and check the box "Snap to Nearest Audio Zero Crossings".

Then, select the audio in the track and press the 'loop points' icon.   

 Gswitz's suggestion above should work too.  You might have to fade both sides of the loop to eliminate the pop. 

Until a couple months ago, I rarely had problems with installation and licensing of Waves plugins.  Recently,  I  experienced similar issues as mentioned above.   For some reason, Waves Central uninstalled a handful of plugins.  The problem was not exclusive to CbB, and occurred in another DAW product too.  I have a mix of V9, V10, V11 plugins.  For me, the problems occurred after I demo'd a plugin, bought it, and tried to activate it.   

In all cases, I was able to solve the problems using the Wave Central "Settings" tools.  Believe  I ran the "Version Organizer" first, but in one case had to run the "Repair" tool too. 

BTW,  the "Licenses" page in Waves Central, showed that some plugins were missing.   After running the tools, the licenses reappeared in the "Licenses" page.  You might check the licenses page first to see if the plugins appear to be missing.  

Hope this helps.

On 11/6/2019 at 11:53 AM, Monomox said:

I remember a 25% off sale this year 

Confirming what @Monomox said.  I found the e-mail from Waves.  They had a 25% off sale in May 2019.  Not sure how long it lasted.  Seemed like a few weeks or so.

@cclarry  thank you for verifying the changes I observed on the updated WUP web page.   I have some decisions to make! 

5 minutes ago, cclarry said:

But it should still be for TWO YEARS and not just "One" when you select ALL plugins

Yes, the renewal was for 2 years for all plugins, but for $360.   Is that the way it's supposed to work?   Maybe I misunderstood.

On ‎5‎/‎6‎/‎2019 at 12:07 PM, cclarry said:

Here's a trick that I use to get the MOST out of WUP.  

When you're ready to get your WUP, buy a NEW, CHEAP, plugin.
THEN buy your WUP for ALL of your plugins at the same time.
(NOTE:  Make sure you are INCLUDING the NEW plugin)
THIS will get you TWO YEARS of WUP for the price of ONE.
WHY?  Because WUP is extended for 1 year from the LAST expiration
date of ALL the plugins you WUP, that being the NEW plugin you just bought,
which already has 1 year of WUP, so it will extend them ALL for TWO YEARS! 

The WUP web page has changed recently.   I tried the extended renewal trick as written above, and it no longer worked. 

 When selecting all of my 'expired' plugins, the WUP update price was capped and discounted 25% to $180, and the coverage is for one year.  As expected.

When adding my 'covered' plugins (i.e. renewing covered and expired), the price doubled to $360.  An explanation appeared explaining the higher cost was because the renewal included plugins still covered by WUP. 

Has anyone else tried to renew both WUP expired and covered plugins?   Perhaps, I did something wrong.  

Edit #2: Tried renewing 'expired' and 'covered' plugins separately.  But realized this won't work since it would result in the 'expired' plugins having 1-year coverage, and 'covered' having nearly 2-year coverage.   Of course, wanted all to have the 2-year coverage (like it used to be)!

+1 on what Alan said.     In addition ...

The UAD plugins show up and operate just like any other VST plugin in the DAW.  The UAD drivers handle the connectivity between the DAW and UAD hardware. I've been using UAD  PCIe boards with Cakewalk for years, and it works fine.  

As you likely know, the UAD plugins can only run using the UAD hardware (e.g. UAD PCIe, Apollo, etc.).  Non-UAD plugins don't run on the UAD hardware.   

There is a limit to the number of plugins which can run simultaneously on a UAD board.  I have a QUAD PCIe and occasionally hit the limit.   You can always bounce or disable plugins as needed.    Here's a link at UAD with a table of DSP usage for the plugins:

https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/215262223-UAD-2-DSP-Chart

Hope that helps.

1 hour ago, Sleetah2000 said:

I'm experiencing a different error message, but I have not been able to access https://forum.cakewalk.com all day today.  Is this still the correct target?  Is anyone else experiencing this?

I'm able to access the old forum using:   http://forum.cakewalk.com/     Tried using "https" in the URL, but it didn't work.

Give it a try with "http"  (i.e. without an 's').    Hopefully that will work for you too.