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Touché, but I do use the others, just not as much. A workhorse main synth is just bound to get more work than niche synths. It would be kinda weird to use a Mellotron daily😂

I'm surprised how little info is out regarding differences aside from presets. I was looking for a way to adjust ADSR in the Intro version and was hoping full version had just that.

Hard to resist at this price. I can't justify upgrading from 8 to 9 to get a few more synths I will barely use, but the strings seem aimed at guys like me who love lush strings but don't make enough orchestral stuff to justify a dedicated string library

You would be surprised how many younger artists use Arturia. Hip-Hop and UK Drill artists love it. Also great for modern R&B and Lo-fi. Any genre that has the need for creating retro sounding samples they are better than most. Omnisphere is still king in the genres I named, but Arturia has a respectable showing. Not trying to sell you on them, but it might be worth a look. I too use Pigments more than the others. It just works

Never noticed that issue. Maybe I just lowered volume and kept going lol

I still use my old z3ta+ patches from him. Great sound designer

Retro machines is one of those products that fly under the radar because most of is received it as part of a suite of other NI products. It has quite a few usable sounds. The DX7 EP preset is perfect for Neo Soul and 90s RnB

How dare the non-believers doubt His Dealness!😂

Crispy tuner for that price is awesome

Their one shots are good. This is more than worth the price if you don't already have a million drum samples

I will be honest and say that I don't understand how to make anything useful with euclidean generators lol

I can't justify it, but i can see a person who is looking to get into mpc style production and liking the idea of working completely without computers biting. I suspect you may be in a similar boat. You likely have multiple controllers, virtual instruments superior to the suite offered and some form of sampler. I have MPC software already and even id I didn't MPC Beats offers the sampler aspect for free.

And that pricing makes sense. You get a keyboard, audio interface and 1000 set of software for 290 euro more

I got it, opened once and have not touched it lol

Considering the MPCX is still highly regarded and costs $3000 with less ability and no keyboard, the price is not as bad. Sample based artists have always had the following traits: 1) Willingness to pay crazy prices ( from the fairlight to the original MPC to the SP1200, all were crazy priced). 2) Prone to copying whatever big name producers are using. In 90s hip-hop Akai and Emu absolutely owned hip-hop despite there being other options. A few exceptions like RZA used ASR10 but definitely was an exception. In hip-hop, among hardware users MPC and Maschine dominate when it comes to sampling. Almost any big name in hip-hop that doesn't use one of those two for sampling is typically using software sampling instead.

Again, that's kinda true and not true at the same time. For sample based production both are not very good. The sequencers on both work in a pinch but anyone used to a DAW will be frustrated. The sampling is even more frustrating. I don't think their market is synth players looking for a replacement for either of those products. If you need a synth based workstation both are obviously better choices with better sounds and build. This product fills a different niche. It is centered around sampling but has more powerful synth capabilities than the keyboard samplers of the past. A better comparison price wise is buying either of those products PLUS either a Maschine MK3 or an MPC One or live since the customer this seems to be targeting would likely want the power of a dedicated sampler. I think people who are primarily keyboard players should take a hard pass.

And for what it's worth, for me personally I can't justify expense for me but i know people that this is perfect for.

Kinda. The extra software is not included with MPC software. It also has a built in audio interface. With that said, the extra software is good but not great. You are paying for the integration. Imo this is good for people who: 1) have few vsts 2) lack a controller keyboard 3) really love mpc sequencer and workflow 4) really prefer hardware but want some benefits of computer based production 5) don't already own and MPC One or Live This is probably not so good for people who have some or all of the following: 1) Own a recent MPC 2) Own a solid keyboard controller 3) have a solid collection of virtual instruments 4) Have no need of a hardware sampler I think it's best to think of this as a workstation along the lines of a Fantom or Motiff with lesser synth abilities but with arguably better sequencer,accompanying DAW and superior sampling capabilities. Better yet, think of it as a modern ASR10 without the same filters and more plasticky.

This is actually very good and better than a lot of costlier alternatives

This is as close as one will get to fabfilter eq this cheaply unless you use reaper

It is an awesome synth to have if you are making modern trap, RnB or pop, especially at that price.

I have tried a couple syntronik synths and they sound great to me. I think i would have been happy either way. The fact that i have an arturia controller did make arturia choice easier

I mostly use this feature when actually using maschine, so I have not tried head to head. Will conpare

I do like that arturia uses nks. The preview is such a timesaver with so many presets

Thanks for the awesome opinion. I ended up going with Arturia. A large part of my decision was disc space. The syntronik approximation of v collection was massive. The group buy is tempting, but it may be overkill at this point