John Vere

Ya that’s really weird but no surprise to me. Down in the lower left it lists all the legacy products but it says copyright 2025??

Check. Ya Im old school. I learned punching in on tape. Later when I got the Yamaha MD8 digital recorder I had the ability to set automatic punch in and out. I really never took to this chomping thing. If I make a mistake I fix it. If I don’t like a take I delete it. Tape workflow for sure. Automatic punch in might be old school but it’s my preference and it works better for me than recording a bunch of sloppy stuff and then spending hours sorting through it. Trouble is a lot of these new Daw’s are now optimized for copy pasted content and not real recording anymore. Probably why I was the first ( possibly the last) one to use Cakewalk Next in a traditional way so discovered that it was busted.

Well Cakewalk Next is miles apart from Sonar but what you described is exactly what was happening to me. To prove the bug I recorded myself saying the count alongside the metronome. You could visually see that when I said “1” that it recorded were 9 belonged. And I also tested Next a few times as I found the bug in early Dec 2023 and they released a few updates into 2024. It took 3 months to get a reply from support thanking me and saying that it was easily reproduced. I found it very odd that I was the only one who noticed such a huge bug. But your issue seems like nobody else has the problem? I personally don’t think it’s an audio driver problem because at worst it would only be a few milliseconds out. Sorry I no longer have Sonar installed so can’t try and reproduce the problem. Perhaps a detailed description of what hardware you are using and if you have any mastering effects in place.

What is interesting is this was a bug I reported but it was with Cakewalk Next? Punch ins were about 2 measures late. They fixed it eventually but it took submitting 3 videos over a few months to finally get attention. This was When it was first released as a beta version.

Anyone who has to come on a user forum to ask how to use software that has a complete users manual built in and literally hundreds of free tutorials on you tube is obviously out of touch with how things work! Simply Google your questions and you’ll get 500 pages of instructions and answers. The forum is handy when that somehow fails to answer tricky questions but regular users get pretty bored by trying to answer questions that are searched for “How do I turn on a lightbulb “? So you will be directed to RTFM . So I apologize on behalf of the internet for not supplying you with a detailed explanation of the question. The AI.

Anytime you install software from Magix or Steinberg you end up with their Generic ASIO drivers which only seem to cause problems with Cakewalk/ Sonar. Other Daw’s ignore them. For some reason they take over the Latency adjustment in Sync and Caching. It just a Sonar bug.

My guess would be that Magix generic audio driver was involved. I ran version 13 for years without issues other than that version crashing a lot. Re install MM 13 and then open the RegEdit app and go to Software ASIO and look for the Magix driver. Delete it. It is a well documented problem.

Generally I would agree but in my case this computer is only used for music and video production. All data is on other 3 drives therefore is not deleted. So far after 1 month I think I’ve only had to install about 10 programs I use. I just install them as needed. Example is I haven’t installed Band in a Box yet because I haven’t needed to use it. I might never use it again. Plug ins that use installers and need authorization definitely take the most time to install. Bonus was I found that the new Daw’s I now use all came with more plugins than I’ll ever need. And I think they are the biggest value when you purchase a Daw. I only needed to install things like Air, AD2, SS drums Melda, ample p bass. As well a few I use were included in Command Centre. That’s why there was no need to install new Sonar as it doesn’t include any useful plugins. Dozens were easily dragged from the data backup drive because they don’t have installers. It really cleared up my plug ins folders which were a mess.

Yes Windows seems to have made installation very easy for even a person who knows zero about computers. It totally guides you through the process. I decided to re install W11 because after a year of installing 17 different Daw’s my machine was a mess. They had sort of left behind lots of unwanted junk. Ableton and Cubase seem to install a ton of bloatware etc. As well as a bunch of plug ins that expired. So Windows gave me a choice of keeping my programs or starting fresh. I definitely wanted fresh. It was a simple process that took less than 20 minutes and boy did I notice a big difference right away. Well worth the effort to get a nice clean machine back with no clutter. I just installed my programs as needed. For Sonar I started with the 8.5 installer and grabbed the few plugs I needed. I then ran Command Centre and installed Sonar Platinum. I didn’t bother with CbB as it’s abandoned now and my membership runs out in a few months so no point in Sonar either. I’ve got Platinum if I need to open old projects. But I highly recommend a fresh install when you feel like a performance boost is in order.

Best practices for all software that has complicated multiple files associated with it is to use save as to rename a file. You now have the old file as a back up. Delete it later when you know it is safe to do so. Sonar has a box that allows you to copy the audio files with the new version if you re- locate it.

And why I don’t like software mixers. Put the controls on the hardware where it belongs. With software mixers you are adding an extra digital layer to the signal path. Like a plug in. And seems almost nobody tests anything on Sonar.

It’s why nobody is left here. I now have 4 Daw’s that I can use forever until Windows update kills them. And I reverted to Platinum if I need to access old projects. Im happy! But it sad that Bandlab forgot about us.

Go to manufacture web site and download and install the audio driver carefully following instructions. Go to settings/ Sound and check that Evo 1/2 are enabled and the default input and output devices. Disable all other devices listed both input and output. Go into advanced settings and choose your sample rate that you set in the Evo control panel. There’s a test tone you can confirm that everything is working and you have your monitors left and right connected properly. In Sonar preferences audio first select ASIO. Make sure no other devices are listed or checked. You want to only see the Evo on all the audio settings tabs including sync and caching. If there’s any sign of a generic ASIO driver remove them in the RegEdit App. Waveform is a free Daw you can use to test as well.

You can also just drag the drum track to the timeline and Melodyne will create a tempo map. Using ripple edit you drag the project so it starts on a downbeat.

Go to help menu that is where you sign in and activate.

Audience requests are not a problem for me. I have over 300+ popular songs on hand. I now have been making my tracks into videos for this reason. The video guides me through songs I might not be sure of. It’s a lot of preparation work but over time you collect songs and it gets easier.

Thank you @Salvatore Sorice, @Starship Krupaand @57Gregy Just to be clear what happened was last July a moderator blocked me from posting with out any explanation of why? Then as well as I wasn’t allowed to upgrade my Bandlab membership from Monthly to annual at the discount. Needless to say I was very upset so I signed out of the forum and removed all my CbB and Next tutorials from You Tube. That was JohnVere/ Cactus Music account that goes back to about 2006. That is my legacy account. I got the discount deal by logging in under my Sock Monkey account. It wasn’t until the late fall that I started posting on the forum using that name. I PM’d members sometimes to let them know this. I wasn’t trying to hide anything. But a few months ago for reasons once again unknown I opened the forum to find out I no longer existed as Sock Monkey and all those posts now show up as “Guest” ? So not a big deal as I have now uninstalled all Bandlab products and only have 8.5 and Splat installed. I now use 3 other Daw’s. But this forum is a long time part of my music life so I read it still and I don’t mind helping out if the topic is general discussion and not about how to use Bandlab products. I don’t support the brand anymore. Hopefully that moderator will not see this and block me once again. Oh well. It’s sad that we as a user group are now not allowed to criticize the company.

This is why every one uses backing tracks. Problem solved. Or like a friend of mine uses a Roland Bass floor pedal which is like on a Hammond organ. Or people use loopers but that’s super weird to figure out. Ive use backing tracks since 1986. Now with stem separation and audio to midi I can create new songs in a few hours. There’s a free midi file for just about every popular song made. but they will need to be edited to improve the quality.

So you are saying that it still doesn’t work even when paired with S1 or another Daw? That most certainly implies that the hardware has an issue. There’s a sub forum for Presonus hardware on the user forum. studio one forum. com Might be help available there.

My only realistic suggestion would be to use S1 no more stupid issues. Im afraid Cakewalk has become abandon ware.

There’s an article about this I easily found in. Sound on Sound from 2009. Seems to me the software itself is now outdated anyway so no loss there, the DVD came with thousands of midi loops which are probably pretty easy to copy from the DVD. And it seems there are also lots of samples available as well. So you can probably recoup your losses by grabbing the content.

Yep, that’s exactly what happened. The audio is sitting happily in the 10 GB C drive of that computer. Now if you were me you would still have that hard drive sitting in a shoebox in the woodshed. Whether it will still spin up is another question! And if I could sill find the power adapter for my IDE enclosure as well is a good question! It’s a common problem with all software that saves your work. The default is often hidden deep in the bowels of C drives Roaming app data. Old age teaches you to always go into the options and choose a location you can easily find. And best to use a Data drive for this.

I don’t have Cakewalk anymore but in preferences there’s a page where you can set audio recording bit depth. I have a Zoom L8 and have that option but looking into it, I soon learned it is a total waste of hard drive space. If the choice was floating point that would be different. But it is a fixed amount. Most Daw’s use 32 floating point for internal processing and rendering. But 24 bit has been chosen by even the most high end audio interface manufacturers for good reason. Zoom is just giving you an option to use something that at best will make a .005% difference to your audio quality. Better A/D converters and pre amps would be needed to start taking advantage of that resolution. But even that’s debatable. 48/24 is the industry standard for good reasons. You want better sound? Treat your room and and purchase good quality gear.

And actually Neil posted back when W11 came out how everyone was noticing an improvement in performance. Spyware?? Tin foil hat?

Im facing this same dilemma. Both my monitors are really old and they don’t even match. One is 24 and the other is a 21. And the colours are different. Im looking at the curved ultra wide options and then possibly placing a 2nd monitor above? I’ve always wanted 3 monitors but my video cards 3 rd port is a display port? For the second upper monitor Im thinking of using a 4K 42 TV.