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There is nothing “fishy” about having a promo screen in free software. Its extremely common for all companies which offer a free version to have some sort of adware in it. In this case the popup is for our own products. I think if anything Cakewalk is extremely lenient about what is being offered in the free version compared to the competition.

Sonar has been updated to 31.07.0.084. Please read the release notes and update as soon as possible since this update contains fixes and optimizations for some important user reported issues. Please note that Cakewalk Product Center has also been updated. CPC is a forced update due to breaking back-end changes that were preventing it from properly installing add-ons for Sonar Premium users. It also correctly tracks previously installed addons for some additional installers.

They increased the minimum order amt to 50, for the first some hours it was a glith and no minimum order was needed

Fair enough. Some DAWs wouldn't list FL Studio in crossgrade deals. Maybe they figured out it is hard to pull those people away from their lifetime upgrades.

Just checked. The code is still valid. Frankly speaking, I find their Impact algorithm in the cab section just as effective as Celestion Speaker Mix Pro, but cab selection is a lot wider. And it also works with regular IRs.

Fluid Chords updated to V2, ands more punctuality to how notes bend between chords, flexible timings, curves, staggered bends, and flipped inversions. Plus the internal synth is now a nice little fully editable wavetable and sample layered synth. They have a sale on on all there stuff for 15 more days, but log in if you have have Fluid Chords V1 to see the upgrade prise. Mine's $29.99 I hadn't realised V1.4 had moved to 1.5 which has a small change to the the bend options, so that was nice. https://www.pitchinnovations.com/shop

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As you say, the actual separation is done by an engine on BandLab's server. It's probably the same stem separation engine as the BandLab DAW's use. Seems like Sonar could someday get whatever mechanism uploads the song and then downloads the separated stems. I did a test of stem separation among various DAW's I have that include the feature and the Next/BandLab did the best job, IIRC. I use stem separation for learning songs, doing my own version, etc.

I was able to get the Rotary Speaker for $4!

This was a back end issue. Its fixed in today’s update of product center.

It fixed it. Thanks!

It also works if you add the Waterfall Organ with the Rotary making them $33. Not bad if you're in the market.

We discovered an issue related to changes on the back end and have just pushed a new version of Product Center. If you launch it now, it should require you to update, and the new version should work. Thanks!

Apparently, FL studio isn't considered a direct competitor - or it wasn't 7 months ago.

oddly enough this post is still here...

Cakewalk Product Cente 1.0.0.93 was working for me, and I was able to Sign In. I was prompted to upgrade to 1.0.0.94 on the same machine, upgraded and immediately get this. I've tried several things. Completely uninstalling the Center, rebooting, installing 1.0.0.94 directly. Same result every time. Next steps to debug this?

Application Error: 1000 Faulting application name: Sonar.exe, version: 31.7.0.84, time stamp: 0x6871641a Faulting module name: Sonar.exe, version: 31.7.0.84, time stamp: 0x6871641a Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x00000000006b552b Faulting process id: 0x31BC Faulting application start time: 0x1DBF35168B247FA Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Sonar\Sonar.exe Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Sonar\Sonar.exe Report Id: a134e34d-56ad-476b-a966-59ad360e7acb Faulting package full name: Faulting package-relative application ID: Windows Error reporting: 1001 Fault bucket , type 0 Event Name: APPCRASH Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: Sonar.exe P2: 31.7.0.84 P3: 6871641a P4: Sonar.exe P5: 31.7.0.84 P6: 6871641a P7: c0000005 P8: 00000000006b552b P9: P10: Attached files: These files may be available here: \\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\AppCrash_Sonar.exe_3492c9dae99c859efc9b94b8a72f4826cd7ba0c5_b265c456_818c837e-39a2-44d6-bb86-2657129023f7 Analysis symbol: Rechecking for solution: 0 Report Id: a134e34d-56ad-476b-a966-59ad360e7acb Report Status: 4 Hashed bucket: Cab Guid: 0 Windows Error reporting: 1001 Fault bucket 1595593941533195849, type 4 Event Name: APPCRASH Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: Sonar.exe P2: 31.7.0.84 P3: 6871641a P4: Sonar.exe P5: 31.7.0.84 P6: 6871641a P7: c0000005 P8: 00000000006b552b P9: P10: Attached files: \\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER.4c304880-a61e-49e3-bc46-140c1505ce27.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml These files may be available here: \\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_Sonar.exe_3492c9dae99c859efc9b94b8a72f4826cd7ba0c5_b265c456_818c837e-39a2-44d6-bb86-2657129023f7 Analysis symbol: Rechecking for solution: 0 Report Id: a134e34d-56ad-476b-a966-59ad360e7acb Report Status: 268435456 Hashed bucket: 233ab6296666c9327624b03c6ad9fe49 Cab Guid: 0 WER.4c86810c-2ddc-491b-8f78-8d245810ee7a.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml

Thanks all. Yes, I am just going to add an audio track to an already edited video. I installed the new free tier SONAR and the video view worked. So I think I am good to go. by resolution I meant seeing what was going on well enough to know when to place words, phrases. With just thumbnails, there would be no way to see exactly when things were happening or changing. Thanks again all for chiming in.

colour config has now been relabeled as "Schemes" rather than "Themes"

you can check windows event viewer, or more hardcore, attach windbg to the sonar process and that will halt on any exceptions, if sonar's not offering you a dmp file

If you are using a Workspace other than None, you must save that Workspace after you rearrange the control bar. It is a "feature" of Workspaces that they hold the control bar layout.

Synthesizer V Studio 2 Pro 2.1.1 Beta is now available: https://forum.dreamtonics.com/t/synthesizer-v-studio-2-pro-2-1-1-beta/2731/2

Uh ... I didn't know the Chinese were a capitalist nation.

China, go figure. used to be what happens in America (bad thing) happens over here (Europe) in 5 years now China has jumped to the front of the queue to usher in the things that are too much even for America (but they would like to do) 5 years later America, 5 years after normalised to Europe. go China.

What a beautiful, dreamy song! The vocals are mesmerizing and the guitar is lovely. I agree with others, remove a bit of mud, add some air and get some definition on the bass and this will be even more captivating.

This movement is driven by 6 soft synths, 3 instances of Dune and 3 instances of Zebra. These synths are orchestrated into the orchestral texture using all VSL samples. This piece was composed mostly in Cakewalk for Bandlab and ported over to Sonar for finishing the composition, mixing, recording and mastering. I hope you enjoy listening. I would say the energy is "controlled frenetic". The score is available for those interested. PLAY Jerry https://www.jerrygerber.com

wow ... amazing sound !!! very impressive song

I'm sure the hassle will be different depending on where you purchased from for a replacement . Once I got my replacement I haven't had any issues but it does make me wonder what the underlying issue is that caused the DOA situation. Sounds better to me than the Fender. And has a bit more flexibility especially if you play acoustic through it as well.

You might want to check out the first post here about the new update to v084 which takes care of your issue. :

@Noel Borthwick ok, I think I managed to get something for you. Here's a simple project containing a bunch of empty tracks, a bunch of copies of the metronome track (to give Sonar something to do) and a prerecorded sine wave track. I'm also attaching a recording (via MRecorder plugin) of me clicking on various tracks (32 sample buffer - see next paragraph) with the sine track soloed. Since this project is not very CPU-demanding the issue is somewhaat reproducible under my usual 128 or 256 samples buffer although not very easily. Going up to 1024 on this sample project makes it completely unreproducible. However, I managed to get a 100% repro rate by setting the buffer to 32 samples. I also tested it under CbB 2019.09 and it can't be reproduced even on the smallest (16 samples) buffer possible. So clearly there's some CbB -> Sonar regression and given that it's project complexity/buffer size dependent it looks to be a CPU load issue related to the initializing/rendering of the mini-ProChannel view. BTW on this project when NOT playing CbB 2019.09 shows 19% audio processing when under 32 samples. Sonar 2025.07 shows 23%. One interesting discovery - in this case (mini-ProChannel view unchecked, but ProChannel displayed in its normal view) the issue does NOT occur. But if you enable the mini-ProChannel view and still keep ProChannel displayed in its normal view the issue DOES return. So it must have something to do with rendering/initializing the mini-ProChannel view underneath. I hope you'll find my root cause investigation useful. glitch-project.zip glitch-2025_07_12 11_18_08.7z

Please, PM if you have a code you don't need. UPD. Got the code from Larry. Thank you!

Hi there, Thank you for your attention. I use the monitor built in the notebook computer, Windows 11, scaling factor 100 percent, text size 125 percent, resolution 1920x1080 (native). Intel Core i7-9750 CPU @ 2.60 GHz, installed ram 48 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060. (I really don't understand these specifications!) This morning (it's afternoon now here) I was informed of the new version of Cakewalk Sonar, installed it. I checked the lyrics window again and the editing function is now back to normal (the keyboard was working again in that window). I don't know it it's related to the update or not? Problem gone, Thank you very much....

Universal Audio have got a sale on at the moment. The code SHAPEUA25 takes off $25 at checkout. I just got the Waterfall Rotary for $5 (instead of $29). There’s a couple of plugins at $19 so I guess you can get them free. It’s a one use code by the way. https://www.uaudio.com/collections/uad-plugins?uaudio-prod_products[refinementList][named_tags.on sale][0]=true

Great mix, playing and lyrics,. I love the dynamics of this song. And man, that vocalist can belt out a tune!

Turns out my code wasn't needed, so it's still available for whoever wants it (and did not get an email from Softube). Just PM me.

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They have also most of the Augmented series instruments under $50 with rewards ((and 20% off) . https://audioplugin.deals/shop/?jsf=jet-engine:archiveproductfilterr&tax=developer:686

https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/2-Effects/10-Delay/5965-Slappy Don't know if it's always been free, but here it is anyway.

This is unbelievable! CapCut needs to be brought before congress. I don't understand how they are able to get away with these policies. It's outright evil.

$114.81 with code FORUM https://www.jrrshop.com/eastwest-scoring-essentials-bundle.html

Goliath = over 40 gb SD3 = over 112 gb (wow!) RA = 16 gb Based on the vids at the JRR link in the op. fj

Scanning was always quick compared to other DAWs. Their plugin manager still annoys me

Agree with all the good observations above. Maybe some tighter EQ'ing for clearer individual instrument sounds 🎶 🎵

Very nicely crafted piece here! As said already, the atmosphere is cool, dark and emotive. Enjoyed the listen! 😎👏👏🎶🎶🎶🎶

Yeah lovely vocals , atmospheric , well done

Glad this thread was bumped. Fun to read about others who have also had TTS/Cakewalk/Pro Audio/SONAR/SONAR X / etc. throughout the decades and what music-making software people started with.

New in build 31.07.0.084 This is a maintenance release that includes several fixes and optimizations in response to user feedback. We recommend that all users update to this version as soon as possible to take advantage of the fixes and optimizations. What's New Onboarding requires user sign in prior to setting up the app. This ensures that only available items are shown during onboarding. New "Keep Plugin Windows on top" settling in Preferences | VST Settings. This defaults to off. When enabled, floating plugin windows are always shown on top of other views. The Free-Tier of Sonar does not display the membership promo page when successively restarting the application. Optimizations Improved UI scrolling responsiveness in time ruler and clips pane. Improved startup time for projects containing many take lanes Improved scrolling responsiveness via keyboard shortcuts in Track View Fixed: Sonar crashes loading user project with take lanes Fractional Tempos not respected by VSTis Sonar pauses audio when enabling or disabling the External Insert plugin even when always open devices is enabled View Expand/Collapse buttons show incorrect direction arrow icon Shift + Left/Right to change Track Control Manager Preset does not update display Play List View displays incorrectly at high DPI/scaling Console View could exhibit layout issues on project load with certain DPI settings In Sonar Free Tier, workspace appears to be stuck on Basic after sign out/restart Ctrl+PgUp/PgDn scrolling in Track View is slow Double-byte Characters in Drum Maps fail to display correctly Onboarding dialog shows Workspaces menu hint in wrong place Crash on clicking inspector when no audio devices are present Track View time ruler drag/scroll not visually updating Add Track checkboxes no longer show checked/on state MIDI clips draw incorrectly when scrolling New in build 31.07.0.063 This is a maintenance update that includes fixes to several user reported issues and the following improvements. App startup improvements Improved messaging for the Free Tier Play List .SET files can now be opened from Quick Start Fixed: Quick start would not show in free tier in certain circumstances Plugins could disappear behind floating views when the Help Module was closed Show Track Colors not migrated from Cakewalk by BandLab to Sonar Track Manager: Sort by Name should be case insensitive Some folders not appearing in Track Manager in user project. Track Manager: No way to quickly unhide folder content Color preferences page displays incorrectly at higher DPI/scaling Play List View not displaying correctly at different DPI/Scales Staff View track list names are too small Play List View Toolbar not picking up Color Themes properly Intermittent app start up problem with promo view App crashes on sign out if BandLab Sounds opened and project closed Step sequencer buttons no longer show Flam state New in build 31.06.0.048 What's New Sonar Free Tier Native ARM64 Support Track Manager Jump-to-Track BandLab Sounds Integration Color Theme Improvements Cakewalk Product Center Update Sonar Tier Comparison Introducing the Sonar Free Tier We are thrilled to announce the launch of a comprehensive free tier for Cakewalk Sonar, making its powerful and robust core features widely accessible to a broad and diverse community of music creators. Aspiring artists, hobbyists, and professionals alike are free to experience the acclaimed workflow without any initial investment. The free tier provides a solid foundation for recording, editing, mixing, and mastering, ensuring that creative ideas can be brought to life with professional-grade tools. For those seeking to unlock the full potential of Cakewalk Sonar, including advanced tools, an expanded library of content, and a host of exclusive benefits and more plugins, we offer a premium tier accessible with a BandLab Membership. This premium offering is designed to cater to the needs of dedicated producers and engineers, providing an unparalleled creative environment to push the boundaries of their musical endeavors. Native ARM64 Support In a significant leap forward for performance and efficiency, Sonar now boasts native support for ARM64 and Snapdragon® powered PCs. This exciting development means that users with compatible processors can experience Sonar running with unparalleled optimization and responsiveness. When Sonar detects an ARM64-compatible processor on your system, it will automatically offer you a dedicated ARM64 product update. This native build is optimized to take full advantage of the unique architecture of these CPUs, resulting in improved performance compared to an X64 emulated build. You can expect faster loading times, smoother playback of complex projects and dramatically improved battery life. Track Manager This release introduces significant enhancements to track management to improve workflow and efficiency, especially in projects with numerous tracks. The Track Manager appears as a new module in Sonar's browser panel. Track Manager View: listing of all project tracks with an integrated Track Filter. This allows users to easily filter and select groups of tracks for bulk operations such as archiving, MSR state changes, I/O routing, name/color changes, meter adjustments, folder grouping, copy/delete, and sorting. Track Filter presets are shared between the Track Manager and the main Track Filter component. Track filtering: Perform live filtering of displayed tracks by name, number, MSR states, and track types Fluid track management: Quickly make group adjustments to track properties and apply commands in bulk Track Filter Presets: Save and load track filter configurations on a per-project basis to quickly recall frequently used filters Jump-to-Track Located above Sonar's track headers, a jump-to-track search box provide allows quick navigation to specific tracks by typing a name or number. BandLab Sounds Integration Sonar puts 160,000+ royalty–free loops and one–shots on tap, directly in its Browser panel. Kick start and enhance your tracks with a catalog of samples covering a massive range of genres and styles. Preview loops at project tempo Drag-and-drop samples from the browser into your tracks New sounds and artist packs are delivered every week Color Theme Improvements This build introduces numerous improvements for all currently available themes. Cakewalk Product Center Update Cakewalk Product Center has been updated to 1.0.0.087, providing updates for the new Sonar tiers and related entitlements, as well as presentation improvements. Cakewalk Sonar Tier Comparison Feature Membership Free Core features Unlimited Audio and MIDI tracks ✅ ✅ Unlimited Instrument Tracks ✅ ✅ Unlimited Arranger Tracks ✅ 1 Arranger Track Articulation Maps ✅ ✅ Project Interchange to/from Next ✅ ✅ ProChannel ✅ ✅ AudioSnap ✅ ✅ ARA Support ✅ ✅ Plugin Load Balancing ✅ ✅ Plugin Oversampling ✅ ⛔️ Track Manager ✅ ⛔️ Jump-to-Track ✅ ⛔️ Elastique Pro stretch mode ✅ ⛔️ POWR Dithering ✅ ⛔️ BandLab Integrations BandLab Project Integration ✅ ✅ BandLab Sounds ✅ Browse and Preview only Fixes Crash on Project Open with user project Ripple All has unexpected results in project Solo Button not responding to MIDI from External Controllers Preview At Host Tempo does change toggle setting on sample after it has been initially loaded Crash on Undo of Ripple Drag Sysx View opens scrolled to Bank 1 Aim Assist fails to display correctly in PRV Right click on Duplicate Track button can fail to respond as expected Pasting Tempo Nodes not as expected in user project Crash When Lasso Select Reaches MIDI Piano/note names in PRV Opening Start Screen should suspend Media Browser Preview Unexpected behavior/crash with Ripple Edit Envelope can become corrupted after deleting node Arranger Section type indicator has no border Clicking on Preferences Colors tab causes errors when not using English Crash on track auto focus in PRV Collapsing track folder containing active track causes TV to scroll unexpectedly Unreadable text in Mercury Theme Crash on playback with ProChannel plugins on surround bus Text Cut off in Matrix View Preset Field in Export Audio not drawing correctly Resizing In Browser Can Have Unexpected Results Poor Contrast in Matrix View with Light Themes Low Contrast for text in Step Sequencer in Lighter Themes Matrix View draws incorrectly when undocked and dragging between different resolution displays Incorrect collapsed Browser appearance after creating new project from template Overwriting a preset in Track Manager fails to save the new preset Creating a Track Preset in the Track View fails to appear in Track Manager Plugin UI painted incorrectly while dragging window Start Screen fails to draw correctly on first launch after onboarding on high DPI displays Text in Track Manager Preset box is cut off when typing Browser Modules move unexpectedly when adjusting the TV bus splitter Please give us feedback on this release. We hope you like it. PS: The easiest way to get the latest version of Sonar is by downloading the Cakewalk Product Center application.

Very moody. Emotional with some drive popping in now and then. Rich layering. Intriguing. The mix is a bit mid heavy. Some sparkle and bass emphasis might broaden the atmosphere. Good work !

Hi England bross, this is very nice, vocal, guitars and production. Well done. Rik

Hi i really like this , its almost like a film score music it has great vocals & a nice build up with great sounds subvibe