Shane_B.

Being part "Native American", from both my parents, is one of the things I'm most proud of. Not that it matters what I think or feel, it just is what it is. My maternal great (don't know how many greats) grandfather was a Presbyterian Preacher from England that came here and married a full blooded Mohawk woman in the 1700's. I have a copy of a tintype photo of her when she looked to be 100. We were "colonized" so to speak a lot sooner than most people realize. Some established going back to the 1500's. Which begs the question, how far back do you go to correct wrongs, in any country, anywhere in the world? Am I due back rent on my ancestral territories? Just kidding, but when I think of everything this country has gone through over the last 249 years and the steady decline after WWII, hmm. We are what we are and love us or hate us, we truly are the last stand. There's still vast parts of this country where common sense prevails and we know how to take care of ourselves. It may not appear that way from the outside because those people are silenced by the manipulation of numbers is larger areas, but we're still here, ready, willing, and able to defend the Republic. That's what America is. When it's not, then it's over. You won't see it by plane, or bomb, or invasion, it will happen from within.

No. Sorry. This is a music related forum only.

There's an interview with him floating around out there somewhere where he talks about how and why he invented it for them. I think the company that made a VST out of the ADT effect put it out. That's where I first heard about it. It sounds like they probably used it on some guitars too.

I disliked the Beach Boys long before I ever knew about session musicians and all that. Growing up, I always assumed the guys in the band were what I was hearing on the recordings. It wasnt until much later in life when I started reading about session musicians and then realized who I was actually hearing on the vast majority of hits from back in the day. At that point I gained a whole new respect for those that wrote and recorded their songs themselves. The BB's always sounded slightly off key to me and that's partly why I don't like them. I think it's because there were too many similar voices competing for space? I don't know. They just don't appeal to my ears. I never understood the comparison between the Beatles and them either. There really is none. Two different animals that shouldn't be compared imo. Both are great to the masses and it doesn't matter what I think, it matters what the majority think. I saw a video recently with Gene Simmons who was dealing with a cocky interviewer. He shut the guy down and basically told him it doesn't matter what you and I think of a group, it matters what the people who do like them that pay them for their music thinks. Something to that effect. And he's right. He started rattling off names of old singers and the kid never heard of them and you could see Gene just wanted to slap him. It was funny. IOW I admit I'm in the minority with my dislike for their vocals and it doesn't matter what I think. One dig on the Beatles is, they couldn't do vocals very well so they had an EMI engineer invent ADT so they wouldn't waste so much time on studio takes trying to get their double tracked vocals right. Can you imagine the pressure on both of those groups to keep pumping out hits by the record labels at that time? I can see why Brian Wilson lost his marbles and Lennon ended up with Yoko. Lol.

I didn't watch the video, but I read an article about it. I think she's being a bit oversensitive about it. That said, a lot of people don't really give a flyin' hoot about the R&R Hall Of Fame so I've read. I think I was there once at their museum or whatever it is. The only thing I can remember is seeing one of Bowie's costumes. And I don't know why I remember just that, I'm not a fan at all of his work.

Too soon? 😁

There's a lot of great younger indie artists out. I really like her, Sierra Ferrell and Charlie Crockett.

To me, the difference is they didn't hide it so to speak. Nobody with strings in their song sat there and did it themselves. But the difference between the two groups is, one had professional studio musicians do most of the work, the other did it themselves and were closely involved in the process from start to finish. And there's no right or wrong in regard to doing that. But more of my respect goes to The Beatles for the group hands on. At least at the beginning. As technology improved over their careers, then they changed. And eventually went back to the early days. The other thing for me that really turns me off about The Beach Boys is their involvement with certain people. I've read that one psyco inparticular actually co-wrote some of their hits but never received credit. Hard to say if that's true but there's no denying their involvement with him. And as I sit here typing this Please Please Me comes on and all I hear is the 4 of them. Messed up lyrics and all ... 🙂 listen close around 1:25. 🙂 You can hear the frustration in Lennon's voice when he does the first "Come on" after the mess up. 🙂

Thanks to my Columbia House membership way back in the day, I inadvertently ended up with dozens of 1st release CD's before the loudness wars. I'm probably sitting on a small fortune of CD's to the right buyer. I have the original CD release of Brothers In Arms among many others. I haven't touched my DAW (for music) in several years. Seems I remember that whole lufs -14 (or whatever it was) is a nice sweet spot to shoot for. What we consider proper was actually mastered for vinyl for various reasons. From the RIAA curve, to the turntable, to the pre-amp, and then the main stereo amp, it all seemed to be calibrated for a very particular level. Now there are no limitations of a mechanical form, so I can see how this ball started rolling. Plus, how much dynamic range is there really when you have two tiny speakers rammed an 1/8 inch from your eardrum like most do nowadays.

They just raised it 19% here in NJ. Kicks in at the end of the month. As for masters, I hope it's the start of a new trend too. These days I listen to music I don't even particularly like just for the quality of the recording.

The thing that sets McCartney and the Beatles apart is, they wrote and recorded their music themselves. Espwcially in the early years. They never had The Wrecking Crew backing them other than George Martin's input. Sting was a good businessman, but a writing legend he is not ....

I never got all the fuss about them. Pet Sounds Vs. Sgt. Pepper ... uh ... no. Still sad to see a legend go though.

And I stand corrected again ... the new GPU's by Nvidia are PCIe 5. If you can get one, assuming you'd want one. They can keep their fake frames and fake fps @ thousands of dollars. No thanks. At the prices they are getting for those GPU's they should be able to render Blender and the Unreal 5 engine at 8K together in real-time while you're playing a game in my opinion.

I'm never going outside again. I'd die if I couldn't eat any of that.

I knew I had heard that song somewhere but couldn't remember. I thought it was just because the melody is so similar to Can't Help Falling In Love With You. Now I want to watch a double feature of that and Munster Go Home. They go very well together. Back in my oldies band days we did Can't Help Falling In Love With You. The rhythm guitar players wife's name was Shirley. We always changed it from "like a river flows, surely to the sea ..." to "... Shirley to the sea.". They never picked up on it, but the rest of us got a laugh out of it in a corny kind of way. She passed away a quite few years ago and he passed away a few months ago. Fond memories of a better time. I say "oldies band days" but since moving back to NJ and helping my brother again with his business, I'm revisiting a lot of my old haunts working on machines part time for him. We do POS systems and Copiers. Every one of the bars and legion halls I've been to that still have bands said people just want to hear 50's, 60's, and 70's. I could call up the guys that are left from my old band, have a couple practices, and be playing out next weekend. Funny how it all comes back around.