mark skinner Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) Not worried at all .. I've enjoyed years of using a free DAW thanks to Meng , and support from the Bakers and everyone on this forum ! I guess in the future we'll have to ask "do you mean CbB , Cakewalk Next , or Cakewalk Sonar ?? ms Edited June 7, 2023 by mark skinner 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 I'm concerned if subscription and the price as to where to put my $$ is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 minute ago, mark skinner said: guess in the future we'll have to ask "do you mean CbB , Cakewalk Next , or Cakewalk Sonar ?? ms Oh that shall be very interesting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragos Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) The main issue with subscriptions is that they are frequently set too high, and they are a pain in butt if you don't remember to update billing info. AVID wants way too much for any version of Pro-Tools. Reaper is probably the best bargain next to Cakewalk. Cubase is probably fairly priced. Ableton Live is a little high. I would hope that BandLab offers current users and Gibson victims an upgrade deal. One issue that I would like to see addressed is education. BandLab needs to reach out to schools to create courses that would use CakeWalk. (Berklee I'm looking at you) Edited June 7, 2023 by dragos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, dragos said: The main issue with subscriptions is that they are frequently set too high, and they are a pain in butt if you don't remember to update billing info. AVID wants way too much for any version of Pro-Tools. Reaper is probably the best bargain next to Cakewalk. Cubase is probably fairly priced. Ableton Live is a little high. I would hope that BandLab offers current users and Gibson victims an upgrade deal. One issue that I would like to see addressed is education. BandLab needs to reach out to schools to create courses that would use CakeWalk. (Berklee I'm looking at you) You left off Harrison's Mixbus 32C. MSRP $349 but typically on sale for from $149 to $179. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 I feel brand new exciting plugins coming in the very near future too. I Iiterally just had this premonition. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Borthwick Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Terry Kelley said: I said want. And it's not impossible but certainly unlikely. And if I disconnect from the internet Windows will continue to work even if it never connects again. The fact that companies do it now doesn't mean it's desirable. Get ready, your heated seats, remote start and entertainment system in your car will be subscription. Want. My car is already subscription (OnStar). If I want remote access to it or to check stats, I have to pay $15 a month I got a few years of free access when I bought it. Actual appliances have already gone this way. The classic 90's software model of paying for a specific version has changed many years ago whether we like it or not. As I mentioned in another thread, back in the day we had a hybrid model where you could do either pay as you go or buy that years version outright. It worked pretty well and satisfied most users needs. While we haven't baked the final details I think Cakewalk's offering will be a pretty compelling value even compared to other DAW's. Obviously not free... 13 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Thanks Noel for the information you can share. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatore Sorice Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Thanks to Noel and team for staying engaged and offering as much info as possible. That, in my opinion, is already a good sign - and not something you typically get with other vendors. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Wynn Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Been a customer since 2001 and after Gibson sort of unceremoniously dumped all of us (AFTER “cashing the check“ as it were) I tried to learn another DAW (I think it was Studio One - and I did not dig it). Imagine my happy surprise when @Meng contacted all of us and said they would be continuing to develop our beloved DAW and that @Noel Borthwick was still involved. Five awesome years later with LOTS of free updates I can’t thank Bandlab enough. And now that we will have a “pay-for” version I’m onboard 10000%. I’ve had the opportunity to troubleshoot an issue on Zoom with @Noel Borthwick and the fact that he loves and takes great pride in this DAW came out clearly. We are in good hands, folks, and I’m looking forward to seeing the next iteration or iterations. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) I have been in this camp for a long time. I don't see myself going anywhere. I don't think Bandlab owes me anything because I bought a "lifetime" license from Gibson. Come on people... really? I am willing to support this software. It does everything I need and want it to do. And it's workflow for me is better than anything else I have tried. Meng and the dev team have given me many years of free updates. They would have to do something really stupid to make me learn another DAW. And I don't see that happening. So I ain't worried. I am looking forward to this new Era that I will be a part of. For the new comers: hang on, it could get rough!! [TOTP!!] Edited June 7, 2023 by Grem TOTP!! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) See, now I'm scared. And I don't even use Onstar. You know, maybe they will pay US to use it! Edited June 7, 2023 by Terry Kelley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Greg Wynn said: I’ve had the opportunity to troubleshoot an issue on Zoom with @Noel Borthwick and the fact that he loves and takes great pride in this DAW came out clearly You hit the nail on the head right there!! All the devs show great pride in this software. You can see it in their responses on these forums. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Terry Kelley said: Get ready, your heated seats, remote start and entertainment system in your car will be subscription. BMW charges a monthly subscription for their heated seats and steering wheel. Not to install them. They already come installed from the factory. Mercedes Benz requires you to pay subscription in order to give your engine more power. This is only present on their electric cars however. Why do you think the industry is so heavily invested into electric vehicles. Hint, it has absolutely nothing to do with environmental causes. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 I'm doing fine. Thanks Bruno! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Grem said: You hit the nail on the head right there!! All the devs show great pride in this software. You can see it in their responses on these forums. But is the marketing people we usually have issues with. Companies often don't want engineers and developers calling the shots because they tend to tell the truth. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Einstein R said: something that just popped into my head is like in the past, going towards a pay model for Sonar now, does that mean they will have to bring back tech support to help people through their issues with Cakewalk??? Of course, if a company is going to offer Tech support, then that's going to be more money they will need to hire people to answer the phones... Bring back? They've always had it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarianoGF Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, gustabo said: They didn't acquire the company, they acquired the intellectual property. As far as I know, if you acquire the intellectual property (as BandLab said in early 2018), you have the right to use the source code (the app), but not the brand "Cakewalk" neither "Sonar". So I guess that BandLab acquired more than just the intellectual property. But ofcourse I'm not sure at all. Edited June 7, 2023 by MarianoGF 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein R Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, Byron Dickens said: Bring back? They've always had it. Sorry, I meant to say an actual person to talk to for techsupport since now that's what people might want paying for the software.....instead of waiting a day or two for emails or virtual chat.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 On 6/6/2023 at 8:35 AM, User 905133 said: Will Cakewalk by BandLab be discontinued? Yes, eventually. We will continue providing community support and maintenance for Cakewalk by BandLab until Cakewalk Sonar becomes publicly available. At some point after the release of Sonar, Cakewalk by BandLab will no longer be supported. Note that existing Cakewalk by BandLab users will be able to continue using the software after the release of Cakewalk Sonar. In the meantime, Cakewalk by BandLab continues to be available here. @User 905133 where did you find this quote. I'm looking for clarification regarding the removal of the Activation time out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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