Kevin Walsh

Ha ha, nice!

Killer track!

Every now and then I go digging through my audio folders mining for song ideas, rummaging around in the hundreds of bits of crap that had I recorded on my phone or started in Cakewalk and then abandoned or forgot about. Most of them really are best forgotten. The other day I stumbled on something I started in 2015 and for some reason never found a way to finish it, or maybe I forgot about it when a shiny new idea came along. So I thought I'd dust it off, slap some new paint on it and see if others find anything worthwhile here. It's clearly a Pink Floyd wannabe track, which may be while I set it aside as a bad job, and the end is kind of abrupt, but I'm kind of pleased at my former self's chutzpa. Lyrics: Invaders from Outer Space who are these people and why are they so bold? I see them everywhere they seem so cold. I will not trust these men, I see what they can do I've heard their vicious words, I know what they mean to do and i feel the anger in the air they suffer so when the times are hard and the chips are down no I can't believe they're just standing there while women weep and children cry they can't be human whoa they just can't be so we'll take a nod and stay away they're no ordinary men i was once alone and quite unafraid but maybe i was a fool to believe so hard when she came to my window on a cold and dreary night she said come oh yeah that's what she said come to me come to me come to me i did not realize i did not see all the truth was standing there right in front of me and i see the people in the park they're running wild with fists clenched and their hearts aflame well i can't believe that i'm still here most fortunate one around oh i can't be human no i just can't be so let's take a nod and stay away they're no ordinary men oh men.

Sorry I misunderstood your comment and the fact that the plugin was causing the crash. I know there's not a lot that a DAW can do to prevent a plug-in from taking the whole thing down. I assumed it was cake walks problem because it doesn't crash with reaper. Speaking philosphically as a software user who isn't qualified to make the distinction between crash culprits, it would be lovely if all the companies involved could gather around a table and figure out how to prevent that from happening. Thanks for the information.

That's all very useful to know, thank you, it's great to have a good workaround from the Cakewalk team. Still I've got to believe there's some way Cakewalk could handle this situation without a crash with no error messages whatsoever. I know that for many people, running to a forum for an answer isn't something they normally do. Just my two cents worth.

That wasn't the problem in this instance. As I said in my OP, I reset the plugin, moved the plugin file, TONEX. vst3, to the common files\vst3 folder, and then delete the IK-TONEX.vst3 folder. I believe that if I had simply reset the plugin and rename the foler to say. IK-TONEX it would have worked as well. Thanks!

I have no doubt the Windows has that problem but in this case the file and directory were not identically named. In fact, the file was a in another directory below the unfortunately named directory.

I keep my Sonar 8.5 key fob in a safe deposit box.

Reaper seems to have the secret as well. I only have CbB, Sonar and Reaper so those are the tests I ran.

Yes, and that worked, but in the end I just moved it up to the top of the VST3 tree for simplicity's sake. In either case, SONAR seems to be crashing when it encounters a folder is named with a .vst3 extension. Note that it doesn't crash during the scan, it crashes when you try to add it to the fx bin on a track. The rename workaround is all very good, but imho in most cases it's not good form for software to crash.

I updated my TONEX plugin today to 1.71 and after installing, opening a pre-existing TONEX instance or trying to add a new instance to a track would instantly crash SONAR with a dump file. Turns out that IK installs the plugin into this folder: c:\program files\common files\VST3\IK-TONEX.vst3\Contents\x86_64-win\TONEX.vst3 I had to delete the SONAR registry entry for the plugin, then move the .vst3 file to c:\program files\common files\VST3\TONEX.vst3, then delete the old folder and re-scan. After that, it worked. Prior to doing all that, I tested it in CbB, SONAR and Reaper. Reaper worked, but CbB and SONAR crashed. I suspect SONAR sees the IK-TONEX.vst3 folder and assumes by it's extension that it is a vst3 file and tries to open it as such, but that's just guessing. Hope this helps someone else who sees this.

Thanks, Lynn. I think I shaved maybe 8 seconds off of it. I appreciate your comments!

Thanks for coming back for another listen!

Thanks, I've posted Mix 3 that I think addresses the top end.

I really enjoyed it. I'm a bit in awe of the people who make this kind of music. It's beyond me how you do it.

Thanks for the feedback and the listen! When you say warm, do you mean the top end is excessively suppressed? Second mix is up so I'm looking forward to your critique on it.

Always appreciate your feedback, Nigel. Yeah, I was going for a Pink Floyd Doo Wop kind of a vibe.

What a great discussion! This is why I love this forum. I have so many projects with bunches of markers clustered in a group at the end out of the way because I didn't know how to delete them. I can't wait to go back and remove them all with vicious glee.

+1 on ARC Studio. Another alternative is the VSX headphone system by Slate. I get very consistent results with that system.

I like 'em both, old school instruments and arrangements with a fine vocal performance. Loved it. Really takes me back. Great job , gary!

Some pretty great sounds in there, and it's always fun to find the rhythm in the soup with your work. I dig the ray gun sounds. I also like the sound click title, "atoopid do forgot to say". Sometimes eyeliner and smokey eyes are all you need to seal the deal .

Thanks, Lynn, I appreciate your support! Cutting something out of this one is like asking which one of my children should i put up for adoption.

Thank you for listening!

What a great song! Really love the words and as always your guitar playing is perfect. The overall vibe that you set with the quality of the mix is makes it for me and really showcases the way the percussion and the guitars work together to create a nice blend of east and west. As has been said, fantastic!

Thanks for listening, tom! I know it's a long song and I'm grateful to everyone who listened to the whole thing. Given the number of thread views vs. the number of listens it's obvious that the length of the song is a deterrent to people playing the song, let alone sticking around to critique it. It's a rare thing to have folks like you and the others willing to spend the time to help me knock the rough edges off these songs in the first place, and even more so when the song is as long as it is. So, thank you all for doing me the honor of listening and commenting, it's appreciated more than I can express.