kennywtelejazz

I had gotten this bundle a little while back from Audio Deluxe  . Both of these are very cool and I love them  .

They both sound Fantastic  and I plan on using them more than I have so far .

There's a few quirks I may as well mention as a heads up in case some one does not about them .

I had gotten confused about the product as far as installing it and where I was so posed to keep the  sample Library ...so let me save you some time and head aches  .

The installers come as a stereo out put or  a multi out put format ..each installer  is over a Gig each.I wound up down loading both of each ...multi and stereo ...as per each plug

Both plugs have very large sample libraries   for use how ever you choose to use the samples .

So here's the deal   . The Gigs and Gigs of files / the sample library files are there and are included so you can load them into your 3 rd party Hardware and software VST instruments / samplers . Having those  are awesome and you can download them and place them where ever you decide to have access to them ...

The simple truth is each installer for each plug has the sounds and files / presets within the installation .If you run those you are good to go if you want to not download all the samples until a later date .

I didn't know that so I drove myself crazy for hours trying to figure out how to get the plug to load the samples I had additionally downloaded  as the products  sample library ...      On the Advice  of my counsel Denny Crane ..I'm so posed to say what do you want from me?  I'm a guitar player man LOL

I have loaded some of the sounds I got from this deal in Session Drummer and other drum plugs .

IMHO they sound great .they were worth the sale price of the plugs alone .I love having those samples to use in other programs and VST instruments.

When you run the installer for the plug , the sounds  come installed and mapped already ( Duh ...LOL )

Full disclosure ,for the Life of me I could not figure out how to change individual sounds on each of the pads within either of these 2 plugs . I am willing to be corrected but as far as I can tell I don't believe these two plugs come with the option  to load up and change the samples on each individual pad within a preset . You can change the panning , the volume , and the pitch  of each pad  . 

Anything more please  on this , If you know how to ...let me know ...

All that aside I love these two plugs and the amount of versatility sound wise they bring to the table are  worth the small  quirks .

While I'm at it I need to say these are not mapped out exactly like most drum plugs . You can load them into a Cakewalk or any DAW for that matter and when you go to audition a drum midi file you will be greeted w a resounding silence ...

These 2 plugs seem more in line w the performer that want's to tap beats out w a keyboard   a hardware synth or go hog wild in Abelton Live  ...

For people that want to play a Session Drummer midi or any other 3 rd party mid file through either of these 2 wonderful sounding plugs ..let me tell you the secret hand shake you will have to greet the plug with ...

What you will need to do is take a drum mapped midi file and transpose it up two octaves ...meaning + 24 ...once you do that you will have the beats playing at pretty much their intended  sounds and mappings  .

From what I can tell the drum mapping appears to be a chromatic C scale ...( at + 24 )

Last but not least ins some of the additional product that comes in this bundle you have mid files w traditional beats  for the genre of these  instruments .

It appears to me that there is something going on with those ...format maybe ?

Let me give you an example . In Cakewalk I have my browser pointed to the folder where those additional midi files are stored .

Now in most cases you load a VST instrument  and choose it for your synth preview  ...I had done those steps  and when I went to hear the midi files that came with the bundle  and there was no sound ...when I went to preview them VIA the traditional approach in Cakewalk

So what I did next was this ,  I dragged the midi file from Cakewalks browser into my projects time line . it placed the file some wheres around bar ten in the time line ( every time ) also  the midi file it had a few empty measures before there were actual midi notes showing in the file   showing the midi data for the synth to play ...Hhhmmm, to make the file usable in my project and time line I had to do some cropping  and editing .

Now for the sake of this post , I am not looking to find fault or to complain about these drum instruments ..All this Jazz aside I really like them and I am happy I got them both for around $30 dollars US .

My only reason for writing this long winded post is to offer a possible  solution to anyone who buys these  instruments  and does not have a clue as to some of the  workarounds I am offering here to help save you time   ..

all the best,

 

Kenny

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Canopus said:

I’ve had Nomad Factory MAGMA for a few years but had actually written it off as impossible to use (at least in SONAR) because of frequent crashes during preset changes. After any such crash SONAR completely froze up. I’ve also seen problems being reported at Plugivery and KVR saying MAGMA was crashing Reaper, Studio One and FL Studio, so SONAR wasn’t the only one.

However, this thread reminded me of MAGMA and made me put this effects rack into CbB to see if the crashes still occurred. In fact, I was certain that they would. But to my surprise it didn’t crash one single time although I must have changed preset at least fifty times. It might be a coincidence, it might be changes done internally to CbB, or it might be because I now run under Windows 10 instead of Windows 7. But the fact remains – I could no longer get MAGMA to crash, at least in my simple bare-bones test project.

Ok, so MAGMA v. 1.6.6 still has some problems with CbB: the Play and Pause buttons in the Transport module don’t update when MAGMA is active, the Tempo display doesn’t update to tempo changes and there are probably some additional display issues that I haven’t noticed. But more importantly: the effects were applied and the plug-in did not crash and bring the DAW down with it.

Maybe a bit OT, but I thought maybe someone else with the same bad experience of MAGMA would like to know and test it out for themselves.

I had those type of crashes you mentioned  for a while myself . I would get them while I was auditioning a MAGMA patch in real time while playing my song .

Also the older preset would hang and I would see both the older preset and the new one I was looking to hear in the menu . they were both highlighted ...

In my case I did not get to flustered about these problems ...for a while I would just stop the tune and change to my intended MAGMA patch .

Never had a crash in Reaper , Waveform 10 or any other DAW's I use Splat  was sensitive while using MAGMA , Cakewalk by Bandlab seems much better able to deal w MAGMA'a quirks ...

I have hosted all my 3rd party plugs in MAGMA and on that level MAGMA is beyond the call of duty and what constitutes a cool app in my book .

Yes I do have bitter sweet feelings about MAGMA , Nomad Factory told me a couple of years ago they would look into why MAGMA did not want to work on my i Mac ..That was the last I heard of them after repeated attempts to communicate and seek a solution . 

all that aside I absolutely LOVE  MAGMA  . dealing w the problems and learning to let it slide for now is still   worth it to me

 Kenny

6 hours ago, Zo said:

It s still de autorising itself ...i contacted the makers , i got the usual answer and then when i said that i done everything said already , nothing since 3 weeks and another email ...wanted to invest in this but it answered itself ...gas off fir this brands ...

 

Sorry to hear all that ...I hope it can be salvaged and set right for you .

I'm very happy over here w my purchase ...all is good . I started w Voltage Modular free , Bumped up to Nucleus (also free in this time frame as an add on ).

Then I grabbed Ignite for $25 ( Half Price ) then I went with the deal Cherry Audio has for Core w Misfit Audio Electric Drums ..$ 25 ( on sale as an upgrade  for $125  .00 less than the advertised cost  )

I'm have so much fun w this synth ...it has a great sound to it and to be honest even the free w Nucleus would have kept my busy for a while

all the best ,

 

Kenny

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 they also have some upgrade deal going on that are sweet .

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I wound up getting the free version a few days ago and fell in love w it ...I did upgrade a couple of tiers and I dig this synth .

 

Kenny

25 minutes ago, kitekrazy said:

Do these work in Bandlab?   I remember these were Sonar specific.

Yes , they work in Cakewalk by Bandlab ...

 

Kenny

Just now, S.L.I.P. said:

Agreed. Post has been edited. 

Its all good I edited my post also

Kenny

On 9/10/2019 at 2:11 PM, SPAK said:

Well said my friend .. It's all about the fun .. still think your bloody good though ! (Just bad at endings LOL)

All the best

 

I had  lots of bad endings in my real life  ...girls , job's , friends ,housing , the in-laws , the outlaws ,  the good , the bad , the fugly

I so-pose  those experiences are what helped  keep me playing the guitar ( as an outlet and a form of relief  )

Now all my bad endings are pretty much a Beta version of the poor mans song copy protection program ...LOL

Thank you for the kind words you said ...

On 9/11/2019 at 3:14 AM, daryl1968 said:

woah - this is bloody marvelous Kenny

Hi Daryl !

I heartily accept your complement .

thank you , it means a lot coming from you

Then there is the other side of me that knows deep down in my bones I'm just guitar player  # 347,678, 00 out of a pool of 10, 453, 287, 990,00 other guitar players

Whew , it's a good thing I'm not a lawyer ...i always argue both sides of the case.. ouch ...then I will have to change my screen name to Kenny Crane  LOL

 

On 9/11/2019 at 10:03 AM, Old Joad said:

incredible, You rock !!!

what a nice thing to say . thank you .

 

On 9/11/2019 at 1:08 PM, Leizer said:

Groovy! Really skilled work putting it all together like this. Loved the jazzy arrangement. The bass sound sounded  a bit wierd (unclear), did you octave it down or used synth sound there as well?

In my Soundcloud song link I posted the original links of the song version  I had to work with .It would be easy for you to compare mine VS the BT.

On this musical performance ,  I added a lot of my own stuff and changed things around .

As far as the weird bass goes I didn't deliberately do anything to alter it ( once again it may or not be embedded in the original track )

I do know that I played a lot of Organ + synth on this tune and I used  a few synths that are new to me ( Voltage Modular )

I did carve the E Q 's on all my synths, also my guitar work on this does go into the lowest octaves of the guitars range ...so who know s ?  

IMHO the main thing is you enjoyed a good deal of what I played guitar wise  on the tune .

thank you for the listen .

4 hours ago, Jim Fogle said:

Nice backing track.  I really enjoy hearing your use of the Jam Orgin Midi Guitar 2 plugin.  This is a great example demonstrating how well the plugin works.

Side question, I'm trying to figure out what web site offers the weekly backing tracks.  I believe it is TDPRI.com, is that correct?

https://www.tdpri.com/

Hi Jim,

You have the right forum . Now all you need the right sub forum .

Over there they call their members song forum "Twanger Central "

https://www.tdpri.com/forums/twanger-central.21/

People post their own tunes over there like we do here  plus all sort of other things ..ex .. short playing videos and clips .

The cool thing about Twanger Central  is they play over a weekly backing track.  Everybody that feels like playing over the BT posts their playing example of what they have done with the track .

The thread for this weeks BT the one I played over is at over 1100 views .It seems the weekly bt's get good exposure .

The spectrum of players can range from a few guys like me ( they do have some good players ) to casual players that care more about busting a nut on the guitars fret board .

Overall the vibe is generally non competitive , and people give feedback or say what they enjoyed about another players track .

FWIW I never play the   " Hello I'm Inspector # 68 & I'm a legend in my own mind as A  Top Shelf Bedroom  Producer Card "  on them ....LOL

Like I said they  keep it light, non confrontational  and more about the playing ...and enjoyment / fun factor .

It may or not be ones thing , but I find it to be an outlet / a form of fellowship and most time whether I participate or not on a thread submission level I do enjoy having a new backing track to play over ...  

AS far as Jam Origin Midi Guitar 2 goes , Jam Origin  as a company has been very nice to me . I bought the Mac store app version years ago and when I could no longer get or download what I had I contacted Jam Origin and they gave me the full version of Midi Guitar for  both Windows and Mac .

I have been wanting to do videos demonstrating Midi Guitar for a long while ,,,,I had gotten my first guitar synth in 1982 and I have adapted my playing ..

Most folks would be very surprised at how far I can take Midi Guitar as far as a real time performance goes  ..

On this song I played all my guitar parts and synth parts in real time VIA recording my synths not as midi but audio in aux tracks ..

I'm not kidding when I say this Midi Guitar didn't even break a sweat over what I was playing tracking wise ...

nice talking w you

 

3 hours ago, ABull said:

Hey Kenny, while the track itself could be funkier (think Sugarfoot),  your playing as usual was very good -- I enjoyed your tones and the jazzy lines you constructed.  ~~Allan

 

Hey Alan  , how are you doing ?

Thank you for the song listen,  plus giving me constructive feed back ..I'm very glad you enjoyed my tone and lines .

all the best ,

 

Kenny

 

 

 

 

 

thankfully edited ......

Kenny

 

Hi David ,

Yeah , a real nice groove  , This is a super cool composition you did here . I like this tune very much .

Kenny

On 9/9/2019 at 12:10 AM, Pragi said:

i have thought that FL studio is a DAW,.

What do you think about this statement  of Kanye "West"?

 

 

 Kanye , Dr Tele Funk ! is " hear for you In Da House!"  We only want's to help you w a cure ....if that is even possible ...

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Kenny

I don't even consider Mixbus 32 C to be a GAS purchase because I love Mixbus and Mixbus 32 C is something I really want ...

But , Dang every time Harrison puts Mixbus 32 C on sale I don't have the bread .

Gee I wonder if I can get $ 79 dollars for both my Jalopy's ,they both run . One is 45 years old and the other is 22 years old ...

Oh Well maybe next time ....until I can swing the bread I will just have to continue using  Mixbus 5 .

Kenny

 

Well you certainly have Chops in that Style and Musical Genre .

 

Kenny

21 hours ago, David Baay said:

Sweet! Your guitar tone and riffs are superb as usual. I wondered if you had looked into guitar trackers. Must be a lot of fun. 

Hi David ! thanks for  giving this tune a listen and having a kind word to say on my guitar playing . what do you mean by guitar trackers ?

20 hours ago, amiller said:

Nice.

Thank You .

7 hours ago, FJ Lamela said:

Very good song and great technique.The mix is ok,but the master is not (in my opinion) a little bit overcompresed and saturated.

A great song anyway.

 

BTW , there is a different master  up than the one you heard , in any case , thanks for the listen ..

5 hours ago, SPAK said:

Bloody hell are you good .... so all good to my ears, could say more like I don't like the ending but hey ...I can start at the begging again LOL

Great work Kenny

Steve

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Hey Steve ,

I don't like the ending either ...I was desperate to finish at the time ...

Over there they start a song play along thread on a Friday and by Tuesday it's all tumble weeds ..

The main thing is I always have fun when I do these type of things and hopefully I may bring a smile to another musicians face ...

That is the only reason why I post these tunes over here .

I am glad you did like the main gist of what my  guitar playing was doing in those places of the song  you did enjoy .

 

all the best,

Kenny

 

 

Your song has a great feel and message going on with it . I can feel the love .

Kenny

I liked your tune man . It sounds like it would fit in perfectly w an Avengers ( 60's spy tv )  episode

 

Kenny

I've always wanted that synth . I could never seems to pull it together w the coin .

I did enjoy your song and the way it sounded . Very nice

 

Kenny

On 9/4/2019 at 6:37 AM, ØSkald said:

Hi Kenny. I can do a take almost as good musically as that but have to sit in Melodyne in an week to make it sound as good as this. Haha.

 

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On 9/4/2019 at 6:37 AM, ØSkald said:

 

Great playing. This things is beyond music genere and style. Well the guitar makes the "style" and the rest is fun! This is what I heard, at least! And again great plainig and also great sound.

ØSkald , I'm glad you dug my guitar playing . It means a lot to me .

 

On 9/4/2019 at 8:40 AM, daryl1968 said:

you are a star Kenny! Sounds the biz

 I wished upon a Star  when I was a little boy  and here's where I ended up ..

My gratitude extends to the fact that  I'm in real good company w artists such as yourself  here .

 

On 9/6/2019 at 4:39 AM, Grem said:

Sounded great Kenny. I could hear the fun and see you enjoying yourself as the song went on. Good work.

 

Grem ,

I'm glad you can hear the fun in my playing .

Sometimes my life can feel like a real ball and a chain . My guitar playing is like the key that unlocks that weight off my shoulders so I can be free to play and soar like a little birdie chirping with out a care in the world  on top of the tree tops ...

all the best,

Kenny

Hi Songs Forum  ,

What  we have here is me playing my Tele as a Guitar synth over The Twanger Central Week 211 Backing Track .

This current mix was done Sept 21 1 AM

I also played one of my Jazz Box's just to keep it interesting .

All my keyboard sounds are played by me  using my Guitar and The Jam Origin Midi Guitar 2 Plugin .

All synth sounds were done in real time as per each song section I recorded over  ...I think Midi Guitar 2 tracks very good  .

 

The links for the backing track and the video of the backing track from the Artist that created it are in my soundcloud description

 

I Hope you Enjoy ,

Kenny

Very Good Questions .

 

Let me think about it , maybe some one will chime in , in the mean time ...

 

Kenny

 

Hey Don't feel bad .

Two  weeks ago I was recording a guitar part through a mini amp that I have set up on top of my sound card . From where I sit I can't see the little amp because my 17 inch  lap top screen hides my mini rig and my sound card ...

I have to stand over my lap top to set my tone and dial in my gain staging

I had shut the amp off when I decided to get a cup of coffee and take a little break . ...  I had forgotten this relevant factor  due to the enhancing quality's of a little  Green Herbal and I ain't talking Tea .  .

After I had returned from my break all energized ,  I spent about 40 nerve-racking min's trying to figure out what had happened to my killer guitar tone .

Yep, that's about how long it took before I realized I had shut the amp off ?   Hhmmmm,   True Confessions....ain't they something  ? ?

 

 

Kenny

 

Hey Bill I just looked at your new avatar ?

Thanks a lot Pal ....now I'm hungry for becan and  I want to take a trip down Mammary Lane 

 

Kenny

On 9/2/2019 at 5:52 AM, RikF said:

Hey Kenny, nice one, that’s some pretty  tasty licks/runs there? Makes me want to play!

 

Rik

 

Thanks Rik !

On 9/2/2019 at 8:38 AM, amiller said:

Cool...”sounds like you had fun.?

I Sure Did ? thanks

On 9/2/2019 at 11:58 AM, freddy j said:

This is indeed a fun song.  This also is indeed some excellent guitar playing!!!

Hi Freddy ! thank you for the kind word .

20 hours ago, Old Joad said:

sweet, I love the sound of the telecaster, damn you can really make that bad boy sing...

that was a nice thing to say . Thank You !

 

all the best,

 

Kenny

Cool video ,  Your porch looks Magical .

 

Kenny

That was nice . You sang like an Angel .

I felt like a child comforted and safe  during the first half of the song . Near the end when the strings and other sounds came in I got a glimmer of the awesome power of The Love  that permeates and resonates throughout all of what is good in Creation .

 

Kenny

Hi Daryl ,

Loved your unique tones , the vocals , the use of space in the mix and the interjection of some choice world rhythms .

Your new song  Remember My Name  happens to be  one of the most interesting sounding songs I've heard anyplace in a real long time .

all the best,

 

Kenny