Keni

Yeah... I still use this regularly. I love it.

...but it really needs an update (I know it's not likely). As it is both extremely resource hungry (by itself it send my cpu metering from it's normal heavy load barely visible on meters to half way up sporadically across all cores and threads as soon as Adaptive Limiter is enabled.

It is the cause of many crashes (only when opening/closing projects, not during work)

If I was looking for a replacement of this What suggestions might you have?

I'm not looking for some all-in-one mastering tool. Only a mastering compressor/limiter with some degree of intelligence?

Thanks... I'm just getting tired of the baggage it carries.

1 hour ago, PavlovsCat said:

Audio Baby, to be consistent.  

Not bad...

...or Music Baby?

Baby Music!

16 hours ago, PavlovsCat said:

And most of us are using plugins to get things to sound as if they were recorded on tape. Progress! But it has made it a lot more challenging to sell your music through live shows., I too miss the days of musicians able to sell records , tapes and CDs at shows and cool mom and pop record stores.  I performed back in those days. 

Yeah, I laugh at that a lot. I began my career as an engineer long before digital arrived or computers in music in any way for that matter.

A main goal of developers back then was to make their' gear as sonicly transparent as possible. Now we pay extra for the "color" they each offer. Paying tribute to those sounds. Probably a passing fashion of the changeover that will dwindle over time, but who knows?

I guess now I'll have more time to devote to making videos to add to the thumb drives?

36 minutes ago, PavlovsCat said:

And most of us are using plugins to get things to sound as if they were recorded on tape. Progress! But it has made it a lot more challenging to sell your music through live shows., I too miss the days of musicians able to sell records , tapes and CDs at shows and cool mom and pop record stores.  I performed back in those days. 

Yeah, me too. As well as long before it (I’m old)

I'm old enough to not really care about sales. But for me it's the "art of album creation" which is getting lost in the current paradigm . It’s back to single after single instead. Too short-attention for  me. I enjoy an album or a symphony to a song or a movement. Too short. My interest is in connecting the short ones into long ones! ????

2 hours ago, PavlovsCat said:

It's surprising that they've kept making CDs for this long considering that the CD market greatly declined years ago. As someone noted, unless you're targeting your music to an audience that is 40+ years old CDs really aren't likely to move. There are a good deal of Gen Z'ers now  as old as their early 20s that have never even owned a music CD. I put myself through college playing drums and handling the printing of posters for indie record labels if I really want to age myself (one of those bands was named Nirvana)! 

Yeah... I know...

...but it's such a letdown handing a thumb drive compared to a CD or better yet, a vinyl abum! The art is impressive before any device gets near it....

Not so with thumb drives but as fewer people buy dedicated artists work anymore. They simply subscribe to a service allowing them to listen to anything as often as they choose. No piles of media to store (and appreciate)...

Oh well... The good with the bad. One small solid state memory device now stores more in inches than the analog world stored in yards

10 minutes ago, hsmx said:

Pity, I made some $$$ over the years starting when Derek Sivers created it. I wonder what they'll call themselves now?

"Today, we’re announcing that CD Baby will stop distributing physical products on June 22, 2023. Digital distribution to places like Spotify, Amazon Music and Apple Music will continue, as will our support for artists at any stage of their journey. We will even have some exciting new features and offers to help you manage your music career coming soon that we can’t wait to share with you."

 

Yeah, I got the email too...

Very sad. I'll bet Derek will be disappointed to learn this

Funny but true about the name. Will they rename themselves now that they're completely disassociating from CDs?

For many of us this is very sad. I hated seeing the reduction of artwork forced from Vinyl to CD and now the new limitation....

Ever try to print anything artistic on black thumb drives? <sigh>...

I know it can contain lots of art but unto itself just looks like a thumb drive. I've printed some labels for some as well as ordered with printing but at that minuscule size it does little to appeal to me.

I know there are thumb drives that have larger surfaces enabling such but they're very inconvenient for users to plug into many situations...

I am very sad to be seeing this change during my lifetime. I love the convenience digital offers, but this is a point of loss to me. It removes the art of Album Design completely!

2 hours ago, Tim Elmore said:

The response I received from Cakewalk Support suggested these two workarounds:

(1) Leave the Console docked (in the Multi-Dock).

(2) Disable Floating for the Console window.

For Option (1) to work, the Multi-Dock itself must be docked in the main Cakewalk window. But this prevents freedom to move and size the the console as desired.

Option (2) prevents the console from being freely moved and sized outside the Cakewalk main window.

I prefer the simple workaround outlined earlier:

1. Leave the Help module active (not closed).

2. If desired, dock the Help module in the Browser, out of the way.

3. If desired, hide the Browser, with the Help module still docked within it (press "b").

Plug-in panels will then remain on top of the console, even when the console has focus. The console can be still moved and sized completely as desired. It is an easy workaround, but not at all obvious.

I wrote back, mentioning that this has been frustrating to other users, and requested that either the problem be fixed or that the instructions be amended to reveal the above workaround that uses the Help module.

I hope this discussion has helped.

Ah... At last I can reply again. Don't know what that burp was...

Your solution solves the problem.  Not as elegantly as I wish (I don't normally have even the collapsed browser visible). Their' two suggestions were quite poor. Of course there's no problem when you don't use some functions that aren't getting along... That's not a solution. That's a claim of limitation to me...

It sounds almost as if they are creating this response to avoid dealing with it.....?

Here's hoping they will think about it now that it's been openly discussed and do a proper fix...

Is it on;y me? I keep trying to reply, it shows the reply window (with quote when selected) but only for a second. All attempts so far have been futile.

Tried two different browsers with same result...

18 minutes ago, Tim Elmore said:

Keni: Thanks for the reminder. I just now reported it to Cakewalk Support.

Excellent! I wouldn’t be too surprised if they are somewhat unknowing of this.

3 hours ago, Tim Elmore said:

As you pointed out, Keni, the actual problem is that plug-ins get put in back of the console and are still open, but hidden by the console display, which is on top of them. Somehow, having the Help module active, even if hidden, gives the plugins the ability to stay on top. Strange indeed!

Very true Tim...

 When it is finally fixed,  I’d be very curious to know what little tick caused this issue.

Maybe a matter of setting these up much like layers in a photo composite. The ability to establish which items are on top of which. Adding something like that to the console floating or docked to establish such relativities?

 I imagine someone has reported it formally already, yes ?

1 hour ago, Tim Elmore said:

The "recycle" problem was happening to me until I did this:

1. Open the Help module. You can do this quickly by pressing the "y" key.

2. Click anywhere in the Console pane. Multiple FX windows will now be allowed to display at the same time in the Console pane if you have the Pin button enabled.

3. If you don't want to have the Help module in the way, open the browser (press "b") and then dock the help module in the browser pane. Hide the browser by pressing "b" again.

In my system, I have never seen the "recycling" problem as long as the Help module is open, even if it is not visible, docked in the hidden browser pane. This has worked through all versions of CbB ever since I discovered it a couple of years ago.

Please try it and see if it works on your machine. Of course, the ideal solution is to have the problem actually fixed, but to me this is an easy workaround that I can set and forget.

yup! That solves the problem for now. I never knew of this issue as it's my first DAW with dual monitors

Thanks again!

1 hour ago, Tim Elmore said:

The "recycle" problem was happening to me until I did this:

1. Open the Help module. You can do this quickly by pressing the "y" key.

2. Click anywhere in the Console pane. Multiple FX windows will now be allowed to display at the same time in the Console pane if you have the Pin button enabled.

3. If you don't want to have the Help module in the way, open the browser (press "b") and then dock the help module in the browser pane. Hide the browser by pressing "b" again.

In my system, I have never seen the "recycling" problem as long as the Help module is open, even if it is not visible, docked in the hidden browser pane. This has worked through all versions of CbB ever since I discovered it a couple of years ago.

Please try it and see if it works on your machine. Of course, the ideal solution is to have the problem actually fixed, but to me this is an easy workaround that I can set and forget.

Now that sounds strange but I’m off to try it in a moment. If it works it’s an easy workaround for now certainly. Thanks. Here i go

AHA!

Different issue than I was thinking...

What's happening is the plugins are correctly opening and visible on both monitors, but on the secondary monitor, as I open a plugin, any other plugin get forced behind the console image which I use zoomed to full screen. So I didn't know they were still open...

So now my issue has become, how do I stop cakewalk from moving the open plugins to the back when I open additional plugins on my console screen???

Just discovered another related piece of info...

This is only happening on secondary monitor! I can have as many open as I choose on the primary monitor, but the seconday will only display one at a time. What's with that? What setting and where might this be adjusted? They are identical monitors...

Just now, Patrick Wichrowski said:

In my Windows 10 laptop works as in my Windows 7 desktop.

Thanks Patrick...

So it's obviously something weird here on this installation. Works fine on my win8.1 DAW...

Maybe someone will have an idea what might cause such an occurrence?

OK... This has been bothering me...

Since moving to this windows 10 system.

When I open a plugin. The Pin button is already lit and if I open a second plugin, the first closes and the second opens (again with Pin button lit). Almost exactly what I would expect if the Recycle Plugins option is enabled in Preferences, but it is not enabled.

I have tried enabling and disabling it many times as well as attempting to get the Pin button to actually do anything, but such is not the case. Nothing I do changes the fact that only one plugin can be open at a time right now...

Is this accepted on windows 10 or is something wrong here?

Thanks...

Sorry...

I’m just dreaming that our long awaited update is finally a solution to the numerous zoom abilities (lanes as focus when open, not tracks) and zooming multiple tracks with exposed lanes and of course my ever desired option to disable the parent track image while lanes are open...

I know these are biggies and part of reason why no changes have occurred for them in a long time. So this long interval has me dreaming Big!

...then reality sets in and I go back to work anyway.

Thanks for all the fish...

1 minute ago, Starship Krupa said:

It sounds a lot better than the demo might suggest.

The demo video sound kinda "MIDI-ish." (the robotic clipped "all notes at velocity 100" with too short attack and release that I used to hear in General MIDI demos).

I haven't listened to the demo, but it sure sounds quite humanized to me.  I simply installed and started playing. I love the mapping of the note bend to max velocity with the staccato articulations. Very playable.

What a cool app!

And very generous of all involved in it's creation. Articulations are placed for easy performance access and the samples so far sound very sweet. I think I'm gonna have a lot of fun with this one.

1 hour ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

It also doubles as a heater, since each CPU dissipates around 300W of heat.

I think the last time they tried suing another company, they got their asses handed to them by the owner of Blue Jeans Cable, which used to be a patent attorney.

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/legal/mcp/

Not surprising...

I'm getting my share of heat from these dual Apple 4kUHD Cinema monitors that vent the heat at the bottom left corner of each monitor.   A Hand warmer on my desktop!

Edit:

...not to forget the Water Cooled Alienware 4 core machine that's currently acting as my front door stop!

Too heavy for me to move into my storage. Imagine water cooling a system that much larger!

1 hour ago, kperry said:

Monster Cable would sue.

Than we could call it Munster Cheeze!

1 hour ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

If all else fails, you can always go the Epyc route. They're slowly pushing towards 128 cores. Their highest SKU atm has 96 cores/192 threads, but if you want more cores, you can get the 84 core version and run two of them on a dual socket board. Granted each CPU is over 10 grand...

Ha! Wouldn't that be fun!

I could finally start using Amplitube 5!

49 minutes ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

For the Threadripper 3990X (64-cores,  128-threads), there's Windows Pro for Workstations. I suppose Microsoft wasn't expecting consumer grade high core count cpus to hit the market so soon.

Whew! Monster Machines! Wouldn't that be fun to DAW!

29 minutes ago, Glenn Stanton said:

i think once you get beyond a certain number of cores and/or physical CPU, the Windows 10 etc start to get a bit weird. and if you're running a server type machine with mutiple Zeon CPU + NUMA channels and beyond, you might need to look at the Windows Server OS. i seem to recall someone a while ago had posted on a site about 6 18-core Zeon with 512GB RAM on a older server with Windows Server 2012 R2 OS and was running SONAR ok. 

Whew! That’s some sweet power!