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It seems like I need an analog mixer, instead of a digital mixer. maybe you can explain the benefits of a digital mixer in my situation in my first post. Considering I already have a studiomix which I use only for the transport buttons and flying faders drawing a volume automation curve, this along with an analog mixer is working ok . Of course I welcome any improvements to the way I'm currently working. The reason I need to replace the Mackie is the faders, knobs, and buttons have crackles or no sound at times. I have to move the faders, knobs and buttons to get it to work. A tech said the Mackie is hard to clean; you have to open it up. So since I've had it 28 years, I thought I should replace it, hopefully with something that is easier to clean. Efficiency is very important to me. Sometimes I need to do a quick mix or a good songwriter demo mix. With an analog mixer where I can adjust the EQ, reverb and fader level quickly is good. I also route the analog mixer output into Sonar so the mix is recorded there and I can stop and punch in the mix if needed. I’m surprised it seems no one has an analog mixer less than $3000 with 4 or 8 midi controlled flying faders like the studiomix. Tell me how a digital mixer will be better than what I’m using. I appreciate all your thoughts and suggestions,

Thanks so far the Tascam 2400 is the closest. But I'm hoping to find something that also has flying faders, like in my Studiomix. My budget is $1500-2000. Tascam has a separate unit for flying faders

Currently, I have a Mackie 16 track with 8 buses and a Studiomix control surface with flying faders for drawing automation curves in Sonar. I need to replace the Analog mixer and was hoping some company made a hybrid that could do what I'm doing now. I'm a keyboard player and mostly just record vocals or 1 live instrument at a time. For songwriter demos I prefer to do a quick board mix, since it's convenient to have the faders and knobs handy on my analog mixer. Whereas on more serious mixes I do the mixes inside of Sonar using the flying faders from my Studio mix to control volume levels.

To me this is the biggest deficiency. I haven't had any big bug problems. The Program is stable for me. This seems like the perfect time to address this. We had so many options with CbB and Platinum in this dept. Numerous custom themes, users would share with us. Including ones I shared too. If we had a Theme editor, the bakers wouldn't need to do much. They could let us create custom Themes to share with everyone After 9/30/25 I'll go back to Sonar, hoping this has been fixed.

What does that mean? The current build 35 is named 31.08.0.035. So are you referring to 32.1 as a updated version that addresses this?

Is there any plans for making Sonar better with Color Schemes and eventually bringing back customizable Themes. Right now it's really slowing down my workflow. Even if we were able to use some parts of some Color Schemes and parts of others, that would pretty much solve 90% of my issues. Some Color Schemes are ok with some areas and other ones are better in other areas. After using Sonar exclusively for more than a month, I’ve decided to go back to CbB, so I can get work done more efficiently. We now have until 9/30 to use CbB. I'm thankful for that.

I can confirm that also, but to me which is much worse is go ahead and click right below the scroll bar. It's supposed go to the next group of tracks. instead, it's like you hit the mouse 2x, because it goes much further.

What is this black shadow that follows the mouse in the clip pane of the track view. This behavior has been around for many months or so. Same in CbB. Look at the black shadow in bar 1. Bar 2 to the end has the typical timeline selection shadow. I included that so no one thinks it's that. When this happens, it follows my mouse movement. I'm not even sure how or why it happens. It's hard to stop it from doing this when it starts. Has anyone seen this? When this happens, when I move my moue across the screen, the shadow get's longer until I stop moving my mouse. It only is seen in the clip pane

To me it's not esthetics at all. It's workflow, being able to find things quickly to make adjustments. With the current color schemes, it would help immensely to be able to use elements of one color scheme in another one, because some schemes are very good for one thing, but bad for another. I hope they address this and agree, this should not have been released, saying it was better than CbB. Even with Platinum and CbB the Theme editor wasn't able to make Volume, Gain, and Pan different colors like Cakewalk 8.5, which made it so easy to quickly adjust these parameters. To me Sonar fails miserably with the color Schemes. I'm pleased with everything else. Here's my CbB theme

I've been using Free Sonar, so far so good

On 8/2 I can still save in CbB. I wonder when the activation will expire?

This is even better than the console view workaround, because it's a real solution. Setting the Workplace as advanced puts the FX bin to the left in the Inspector like 8.5, but selecting None puts the FX bin in the track pane like's it's supposed to be. Thanks for completely solving this. That a good tip to remember when something goes haywire put Workspaces as None

Yes you can select Custom or All - same bad result

Good workaround. I can see the FX bins in the Console view. It's better to maximize it so you can see all the FX - good find!

Another good point as to why we need a theme editor. I've run into the same problem in midi editing. I hope they are working to make this better for us. I haven't heard anything about improving the display

Yes I clicked on All in the track view, it opens a window and you choose Track control manager and then you see what my pic shows. With the track control manager open, it defaults to Custom, since you can't edit All

I've tried Custom, in fact that's what the file was saved as. You can clearly see in the pic the the FX is checked, but it's not showing up

I've tried All and it makes no difference. Can you open that file and see what happens?

I agree, my biggest complaint is not having options for changing things we see, like we had in the old theme editor. Users would share their themes and you could tweak them with the Theme Editor. My workflow has been slowed down by not seeing things as clearly. The different colors really help immensely. It's not a question of just getting used to the new Sonar. Here's my Theme in CbB

Here's a screenshot of Platinum 32 bit, the latest version we had. You can see the FX bins is checked in the Track Control Manager. Even if I open up that track fully or maximize it, the FX bins don't show up And I'm including the problem file, see if you can open it and see if the Inspector shows FX like 8.5 32 bit. PATCHEN SUNDOWN 17.cwp

In 8.5 the FX are shown in the Inspector on the left side. 32 bit platinum must have changed it to the FX bins. Is there a way to do this or do I have to open it in 32 bit 8.5? These are DX FX

I think I found the problem. Actually, this project was started in 2007 when I was using Waves DX plugins. I didn't stop using DX and going to VST plugins for Waves until 2011. So everyone is correct I can use 32bit Waves VST's with CbB and Sonar as I have been for 10 years. Fortunately, I have Cakewalk 8.5 installed that can handle the old DX plugins

In CbB, I just added the VST path to the 32 bit Waves plugins in Plugin manager c:\program files (x86)\cakewalk\vstplugins\Waves\ It still can't find the plugins. Here's a screenshot of the error message Sonar displays this same error message and I do have the waves plugin folder in the VST path in Plugin manager. Notice I have numbers in front of each Waves plugin. I used to do that for my most used plugins so they would be at the top of the list when I'd add a plugin. I don't see the numbers in Plugin manager for these plugins and they do load fine in the 32 bit Apps. Do I have to install the BitBridge 'wrapper' for the 32 bit plugins? I've opened plenty of old CWP files over the yeas and if they have 32 bit FX I always have gotten that Missing plugins window above even in 64 bit Platinum. 32 bit Platinum loads the 32 bit FX just fine, even with those numbers I put in front of the plugin names

I have an Old 2012 8.5 CWP file with 32 bit FX. Is there a a 32 bit CbB or Sonar that will open the file with the 32 bit FX? I opened it with 32 bit platinum but it doesn't show any of the audio FX on the tracks. In 8.5 32 bit I can see the FX, but they are on a long strip on the left side of the track pane. This strip doesn't show up in 32 bit platinum

this is very helpful to know.