Brian Walton

Not sure about a switch to subs (as I just don't agree with the notion) But I think we can all generally agree the field has changed regarding the cost of plugins and the percieved value in them. At one point WAVES was built on a model that cost an absurd amount of money per plugin. Now, top shelf plugins are $10-30 year round across the specturm. Companies that charge $150+ for an effect (outside of something like Melodyne), no clue how they even stay in business.

no thanks. I'd prefer AD2 to continue support instead of a money grab on a upgrade I don't need. AD Still sounds just fine, and if you just need more grooves, there are plenty of other option on the market to add to it/map and translate to, etc.

People that are going to avoid paying for legit software at all costs are not going to rent software at $120 a year. Especially when the bundle doesn't offer much of value that you could get for the same price and own outright for less. Take 2 years of rental for example. I could buy more VST effects than I'll use in a lifetime for less than $240 with Larry's help. Just look at the soundspot model. 2 months worth of payments here and you could basically own everything they have made.

I say no to subs. You want to try something out? Many options on the market with fairly long trial periods. You want to add something to the tool box? Tons of cheaper or almost free options. $5 or less for Computer Music Magazine and that would give months worth of testing alone (and keepers). Melda Free bundle, these free or Cheap Izotope offers (Neutron Elements, Ozone Elements, and PhonexVerb - right there gives a rather insane amount of control at some of the highest quality available). Most in the bundle I'd call "filler" where you can get a free option that is just as good, and limited use. (ex: tube screamer plugin, I don't even want to use the real thing, let alone a digital simulation of one)

I went through the process then decided not to bother installing it. With Izotope giving away Neutron Elements (and already have presets for things like Waves Omni-Channel), I'm doubtful I'd use it much.

Ahh...the last "free" one on a bunch of stuff didn't see Computer music , though I nabbed some random other things. Must have missed the CM one.

I've never seen a 3 for free offer. Last post was also 3 for $1.

code is in the op

So ....a VST that encourages Copywright violations? ?

They had numerous $1 - $2 sales at Plugin Boutique before, this is nothing new. I think I paid a whopping $7 or so for Firefly and $5 for glitch previously. The rest I got for about $1. each.

ilok with only one authorization. If this had normal izotope liscencing it would be a complete no-brainer. I'm debating on buying it again, becuase if I don't I'll just end up avoiding using it on projects with the single instance.

no, it is on sale for $150 (minus in cart discounts)

Not an endorcement of any of these, but yes, I do believe others are creating IRs already. https://www.ownhammer.com/store/ https://lancasteraudio.com/wgs-impulse-responses-warehouse-guitar-speakers/ https://www.cabir.eu/en/ As for other AMP modelers using specific Speakers/Cabs I'd say yes https://www.strymon.net/products/iridium/

How about posting an example of your current results. That might provide some insight. Traditional Classical Recordings are just a Stereo Pair,in the room recorded live. Having everything in the box as a separate track has its own challenges to get a similar style of recording. However, getting a "big" recording should actually be pretty easy. Translation to other systems is a challenge. Many mixers will use stereo monitors. Adding a sub can be deceiving for translation in some other formats. unless you have a great ear and learn how it will translate.

The plugin has a splash page at launch that says it will get progressively more annoying over time. FYI

Without anyting else running certainly sounds like there is another issue going on. 8 Gigs of RAM is on the low side, but shouldn't be a show stopper if the DAW + Union is basically all that is going on.

Lots of factors. Depends on the GEN of the processor, as well as your RAM, etc. Not to mention how much you have going on in your project. If you are nto seeing any resource problems in your project then you should be fine. I usually have to put some synths + effects as one of my first tracks then Freeze the track to free up that processing. I certainly have other things that can be worse than Union.

You are correct. A difference of £0.41 I think it is a pretty good deal and could get usable content even without the velocity aspect. Wish it was less CPU intensive, but lots of VSTi are that way these days.

Don't think it was cheaper. Agree it is a bit of a resourse hog, but I'm pretty sure they updated to include velocity responsiveness , or at least that is what I read.

Very nice reverb. CM version is fairly feature rich, but this adds quite a bit of control and more sound options. Unfortunattly after Phonenix Verb and XenoVerb both at $10 a piece recently. A $50 verb plugin (though different) is tough to swollow.

For every 1 musician that uses a staff view there are easily 100 or more that do not use them on any regular basis.

The number of people that would jump ship with a switch to such a model would far exceed those that would jump on board. Not to mention the dramatic cost increase in needed to buy data center solutions around the globe to handle a free application with a very limited user base.

I've tired that one. Your thumb is always on the buttons on the side, and with that many buttons in a cluster, it can be more challenging to get used to the exact placement of each without looking at it (i.e. hit the wrong button). The 602 I mentioned almost treads on that territory and it has even less buttons - though they are out of the way if you do not want to use them and grip as a traditional mouse. That kind is very much a try to see if it actually works for you. Logitch makes a similar layout as well.

Button placements are different, both are "solid " as far a s mice go. 402 the button that is positioned where the thumb rests could be good or bad, just think about how you hold a mouse and what you might assign to that button. The 602 all the buttons feel are out of the way, but there to use with some dexterity. The 602 has two modes in term s of power consumption and latency. Use rechargeable batteries. But latency is not a concern at all especially in the high drain mode. This isn't like old wireless tech. It updates a ridiculous number of times a second and has a very high DPI which is also adjustable (both of them do). They use a special reciever that is not compatible with the "unifying" tech...the unifying tech ones do not have the same refresh rates. I haven't used the 502, but should be a fine mouse as well . The 402 is a better value than what I've seen on the 502. I personally don't need the insane 16K DPI it has on tap, something I'd never use. The weight system it has in it might be nice. With a 602 it can run off of one or 2 AAs and so that is how I get a variation in weight that meets my needs. 402 as it does't take batteries will be light (more like your current mouse). I personally like a little weight to the mouse, but that is all a matter of preference. I do own the 602, 402, and a number of other logitech mice. I have 602s for Home/DAW/Photography/Video Editing as well as what I use for work Systems/Data. You can program the buttons differently depending on which application you are using. , and save presets to load in the mouse one at a time or they can be stored on the computer.

I think I'm tearing up a little. ?