Starship Krupa

Having a license key doesn't always mean that the product doesn't also phone home during the registration process.

Nice. And thanks for asking, it got me to think about what drummers I really like, and listening later I realized that all 3 of these songs have similarities in the beats. The time signatures ain't strictly 4/4, and I want to start being able to "hear" beats like that in my head, whereas I'm as stuck on 4/4 as your usual American rock loving boy. I've been musically blocked for the past few months due to some mind-bending financial challenges (rescued at the last minute by an inheritance a few days ago). I think what I want to do is take some of these loping beats and transcribe them into the DAW. This kind of thing might go pretty well with the downtempo stuff I want to explore. I'll leave you with a clip I watched over and over and over when I first started playing drums and was also not coincidentally recovering from a horrible episode of major depression. These guys weren't playing music, or even channeling it, they WERE music:

Also Steve Jansen's playing on his brother David Sylvian's Brilliant Trees:

Some of my favorite playing is from Alan White on Oasis' What's the Story Morning Glory? His version of the lazy Manchester beat is stellar. And often played with rutes instead of sticks. This is a different Alan White from the Yes drummer. Speaking of which, Bruford has played some pretty tasty stuff. Nigel Olsson with Elton John, Bonham, Moon (his stage presence very much influenced by Krupa), Ringo of course, Hal Blaine. I like Peart, it's tough to be that complex and still serve the music, which I think his playing did. Whoever played drums on American Analog Set's Promise of Love. I have listened to this song many times on headphones, playing along on my Slingerlands: Tony Allen's playing on this track from AIR's Pocket Symphony (this version cuts off the intro somewhat, but it doesn't hurt it much). Allen had a history that included playing with one of music's most evil assholes, someone I won't even mention, but he tears it up here:

I know, huh? This is the only forum I've ever participated in where topics actually improve. Not all the time, but I've seen trolling rants turn into thoughtful discussions and in depth useful critique. We went from Donny and Marie to Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Sammy Davis, Jr. Joe Morello and Prince! How about Jeff Porcaro's playing on Katy Lied?

My mom was a big Brubeck fan, so I was exposed to plenty of Mr. Morello's playing when I was little. She also had a copy of Herb Alpert Presents Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66, and I love love love Joao Palma's playing on that record. That clip from the Sammy Davis Jr. show. There are actually at least 3 great drummers on that stage (probably 4, don't know who was playing in Sammy's band at that time but he had to have had some chops to keep up). Sammy, among his many talents, could tear it up on the drum kit: Prince never mentioned being influenced by Sammy Davis Jr. (at least that I know of), but the whole "brilliant multi-instrumentalist and dancer" thing, Prince was my age and must have watched a lot of Sammy as a kid. I remember Sammy tap dancing in platform shoes on the Flip Wilson show, just killing it. Prince never reached Sammy's level of acting talent.?

Well, I think you can tell from my handle whose jazz drumming I prefer. Buddy was a technician, a brilliant one. But I think of him as the Yngwie Malmsteen of drums. Amazing chops, but is it musical? Do I ever want to throw on an album where he's playing in a band, or is it just YouTube videos of his solos? Gene could drive an entire big band. With Buddy it was all about his spotlighted solos. Elvin Jones is another fave of mine because of the way he could drive a band. Early on in my drum learning, I read a quote from Elvin saying that in a small combo, the drummer is the conductor. That was like a lightning bolt to my understanding of the role of a drummer, the power the drummer holds over the entire band's dynamics. A good drummer knows when to fade into the background, knows when to step forward to serve the music that's being created. I've never heard an example of Buddy doing that. With Buddy, the rest of the band wasn't important, he probably saw them as backing him up. For a drummer, that isn't a recipe for music that I want to listen to. I've noticed that most of the drummers I admire were/are somewhat humble regarding their role in the band. Elvin also said that he believed that his purpose in life was to play in the John Coltrane Quartet. He said that after he left Coltrane. Playing in that band was his masterwork. Neil Peart, famously reclusive. Ringo Starr, famously humble. Ever hear Alex Van Halen go on about how great he is? Nope, he left that kind of talk to his brother. Bonham? Yeah, he dissed Karen Carpenter when he lost out to her in the Playboy Poll, but I'll cut him slack for that one. Karen was a good soft rock player, but that was about it. Just my opinion, and of course not a popular one.

You were supplying him with his favorite drug, approval. The poor bass player was just another musician for him to need to feel superior to. There are certain personality disorders where the person must do whatever they can to boost their ego. This entails being as sweet as possible to people who supply them with approval and grinding down people who they see as competition, which is nearly everyone. Check Marie's behavior. She was as sweet as could be to the audience who was cheering her, but a total shrew to the other musicians. We all love approval and feel competitive, but this is those tendencies taken to a pathological level. My childhood was spent in Los Angeles and I got familiar with entertainment industry types. Not a group I would seek out for companionship.

Yeah, Marie....known to have some serious mental health issues. Ugh. Going all Buddy Rich on your band is a no-no.

The caravan to Aruba is not the road you'd choose...

Oh noes, Wikipedia contradicts itself: "The song, "One Bad Apple", written by George Jackson, was composed in the style of The Jackson 5 (it was not originally offered to The Jackson 5, though the Osmonds would later state that The Jackson 5 considered recording it)." My faith in the infallibility of Wikipedia is hereby shaken. When the song came out, I was in elementary school, and came up with the alternate lyric "One road apple...."

It's not uncommon for MeldaProduction. It's like a hotfix. Initially pushed out for people who are experiencing the issue, then rolled into the full release once it's shaken out. I've always just gone ahead and installed whatever version they put out, never been stung.

That is a myth. Check it on Wikipedia. For bubblegum soul, they don't do a terrible job of it. Having the Muscle Shoals house band backing them up doesn't hurt. Yes, and "Show Biz Kids" would be an appropriate tune for them to cover. Hey, you're a drummer, check out Jay's technique on this tune. He's miming, but he actually played on the recording (they eventually got proficient with their instruments and played on their later albums). I wish I could get my wrists to do that when I'm on the kit. He's playing power rock strokes using trad grip. Tight little fills. Also: sweet stained walnut Luddies, complete with 70's approved set of 4 concert toms and Supraphonic:

Which kinda validates a point that I have brought up: while theoretically all DAW's should sound the same, we don't know what any of them is truly doing under the hood. Yes, Nyquist, Fourier, et al, but then we have Image Line.... Like Helmuth von Moltke's contention that "no plan survives contact with the enemy," I say that design principles are often compromised during actual implementation of them. Engineer: "it presents the recorded audio with no resampling, added jitter, or coloration of any kind." Marketing person: "great, is there anything we can do to make our program sound better than the competition?"

I detested Donny and Marie as much as any other teenage boy back then, but looking at it from an adult perspective, also knowing more about what goes into stage productions....that is some nice choreography. I wonder if it was still Jay, it looks like the style the Osmonds were doing in the "One Bad Apple" period. That stuff is hard work. Definitely a relic of the "knock 'em dead" era of entertainment. It's the intro to the show and they start off with a Steely Dan number that ends up with them ice skating backwards. I'd like to hear/see Donny and Marie doing one of the Dan's darker numbers like "Charlie Freak." I bet they could tear it up on "Haitian Divorce." No! A whole album: Donny and Marie Sing Donald and Walter. Marie: "No marigolds in the promised land...." Donny: "There's a hole in the ground where they used to grow...." Both: "Any man left on the Rio Grande is the king of the world as far as I know!"

A simple remote control app for iOS and Android. Here's another. It was a big factor in my decision to go with Mixcraft almost 10 years ago: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acoustica.ControlSurface&hl=en_US&gl=US Simple transport control, but man, for situations like recording yourself at the drums, it's valuable. Of course, once introduced, you open yourself up to endless feature requests to implement mixer control and whatnot, but it is a very useful feature. AFAIK, at least Logic, Mixcraft, and Studio One all have one. Pro Tools, too, probably.

Very good sounding melodica, plenty of serials left.

I want it to ask me if I like movies about gladiators.

I'm wondering about a chicken-and-egg thing here.

Those are all cached Google hits from their spidering engine having read the old website. If you click on the actual links (try it) they take you to the current Cakewalk Sonar page, which has none of that pricing listed. Please be careful. There's enough FUD floating up. If you don't understand how Google's caching works, I can explain it. This is another reason why keeping the old Cakewalk, Inc. web server up and running for the past 5 years was....perhaps not the greatest idea.

Could you please link to this "preview?" The new product is called "Cakewalk Sonar," not "SONAR Platinum." This looks like old, archived information.

Many people like to customize the tools we use to make music. Just look on YouTube and you'll see how many videos there are about refinishing guitars, rewrapping drums, etc. It is a hobby in itself. I've spent many enjoyable hours working with the Cakewalk Theme Editor. These are my Transport and Loop Control Bar modules. I've made everything larger and therefore more visible. Also used the sort of flat transport buttons that many DAW's, for instance Cakewalk Next, also use.

So is the plan to eliminate new downloads of Cakewalk by BandLab once CS ships? Not that my opinion matters, but I would like see CbB remain available as a way to check out some of the features in CS, as a fully-functioning demo. This would be similar to Tracktion's practice with Waveform, making a previous version of Waveform available to use for free. You like it, the latest version is available for a fee. I've been a cheerleader for Cakewalk, the amazing free DAW, among my friends who are just getting into recording and producing. "Just try it, it's free!" If there is no longer a free version, I will be in the position of just telling them to try the crippled or timed-out demos of the various DAW's to see which one they like. Or referring them to Waveform Free, which would be a shame as I find its workflow to be confusing. It will be interesting to see if there is a huge rush of people snagging CbB as insurance for having the free version. Also, as a revenue stream and presumably more resources, it would be great to see some marketing happen, especially in regard to getting cozy with control surface manufacturers.

Quote from Meng from 5 years ago: "our steadfast goal is that former SONAR owners (of all versions) will not need to spend any money to cross-over/cross-grade to the future flagship product" "Future flagship product" could be taken to mean the Cakewalk by BandLab that has been licensed by free subscription for the past 5 years, but for anyone concerned about having to pay for Cakewalk Sonar, you might cite this if BandLab decide to charge you for the upgrade.

He's an illusion, a reflection of someone else's name.