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4 minutes ago, Promidi said:

One issue I have with Massive X is, currently, it has no MIDI learn - maybe a future update will fix this.

Oh yeah, that too, and it's a fairly big deal! Forgot about that one...added to my post!

NI will need a few more future updates to get the thing "finished". Maybe another year or two?

1 hour ago, simon said:

and now R4 and Nimbus have mysteriously vanished from the Everything Bundle product page ? 

It appears that R4 and Nimbus have been removed from all current iZotope bundles, and are now exclusive to the Exponential Reverb bundles.

Such as: https://www.izotope.com/en/products/exponential-audio/for-music.html

9 hours ago, Promidi said:

Yes, I have pigments 3 (excellent synth this one).  However, it is good to know that PhasePlant goes sale from time to time.

For PhasePlant, it's a case of Patience Grasshopper........

What I should say is that I have all 3 synths, and they MSRP for $199. However, all can all be had occasionally for $99, or less.

I got Pigments and Phase Plant on sale. I really enjoy them, and those were no-brainer sales!

I had tried the demo of Massive X when it was first released almost 3 years ago and had thought, "well maybe someday". But I recently got Massive X included with a discounted crossgrade to Komplete 13. I was excited at first, but then after a while it dawned on me that I enjoyed Pigments and Phase Plant much more!

And while it has great sound producing ability, Massive X users still have some grievances with NI, as Massive X was perceived to have been released in a rather "unfinished" state. In fact, NI has only recently added a proper preset browser to it with an update this year!

Other Massive X annoyances:

• No way to create custom user preset folders. All saves go to a main folder "User". Sound designers really hate this one.
• No wavetable or sample import.
• Limited visual feedback (real-time UI animations - this one is likely a personal preference, some love 'em, some hate 'em).
• No MIDI learn.

36 minutes ago, Promidi said:

Something to consider when and if Phase Plant goes on sale.

Phase Plant 2 was just on sale for $99 (half price) until June 13th ($89 at Every Plugin... although it's $176.87 now).

Likewise, Arturia Pigments occasionally goes on sale for $99 (half price). Another very good one!

For the money, I would recommend Phase Plant over Massive X.

I have both, and for me, Massive X is not nearly as fun or intuitive to program. YMMV!

36 minutes ago, Christian Jones said:

Do you prefer xln over toontrack? 

I'm a relative newbie to Toontrack EZDrummer. I was happy with XLN AD2 that I've had for years, but acquired EZD only for the songwriting tools, not particularly for the sounds.

There are way more discussions about which are the best sounding drums, and that usually revolves around ToonTrack Superior Drummer and BFD. I've never used either of them. I'm happy with XLN, and they sound good to me, but then I'm not a drum freak. Just need them to add rhythm and not sound BAD, and not show up drunk! I've also got MODO Drum, but I bore quickly with tweaking the details.

I'd rather spend time tweaking my synths, LOL!

That probably wasn't too helpful, but I'm not really the guy to be asking that question...

Cheers!

I assume that your other instruments were responding to "any" channel, while bx_oberhausen was not. I'm sure that added to the confusion!

1 hour ago, daveiv said:

Is it possible to use v13 and v14 plugins at the same time?

I have some stuff expired, and some are eligible to upgrade to v14 for free.

Yes, I am using 12, 13, and 14 at the same time.

I don't see a lot here that I need this year, other than FOMO. It's all high quality stuff, but...

I picked up a couple of Evolution guitars and the Famous E during the OTS group buy last year when it went all the way to 60%.

12 minutes ago, Yan Filiatrault said:

If you want curated, go to Spitfire Audio. Every new product they release is presented as being curated…

Spitfire Audio has drum machines?

13 minutes ago, Christian Jones said:

Thanks everyone, I'll wait for a sale. I need some good 80s drums. I've got tons of drum sounds but I'm looking for something that's already well curated. 

Right. And if you do pick up the "Custom" bundle you don't have to make all of your selections right away. You can always hang on to a few options for a "rainy day".

3 minutes ago, scook said:

This indicates the issue is the controller is sending MIDI notes on a channel other than 1.

If you have the free MIDI-OX utility you can set it up to monitor what your controller is sending. The channel numbers are shown live in the monitor window as you press keys on the controller.

http://www.midiox.com/index.htm

17 minutes ago, Paul Young said:

I thought they would be upgraded automatically in Waves Central but I had to go to the website.

I can't wait to see which of my DAWs gets confused with the plugin scan. 

That would be too easy for Waves! They want you to check out the WUP "sale" first, LOL!!!

Then you have to go looking for the free upgrades among your stuff...

1 minute ago, Paul Young said:

I have yet to divorce myself from Waves plugins.  I do like CR8 which I have 3 licenses.

I just updated my Cosmos and CR8 to v14 for free, as they were still covered by the free year 1 WUP.

Wait for a sale.

Then if you want a really good deal, pick up an AD2 "Custom" pack at a reseller, that includes any 3 ADpaks (kits) + any 3 MIDIpaks (beats) + any 3 additional kit pieces (single drums). For some reason these bundles are not available to existing customers direct from XLN.

Example of JRRshop's AD2 Custom (not on sale, currently $178): https://www.jrrshop.com/xln-audio-addictive-drums-2-custom

I believe these can be had for 50% off on sale, so that's about $89 for the lot, which makes it less than $30 per ADpak.

Best comment so far on KVR:

"So not an informative post then, just more Waves bashing from the same idiotic members. Hey ho".

20 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

Brainworx (and the related brands) install their presets to the locations laid out in the VST3 specification. Unfortunately they are one of the few manufacturers who do this, most others favoring their own preset managers. My preference is for using the DAW's native preset system, so it would be nice if Cakewalk could scan presets from those locations to use in its preset manager.

Studio One does this, and Cubase/Nuendo likely do as well.

Reaper has a nice VST3 preset implementation built into their plugin window. It strikes me as something Cakewalk should have added to their native VST3 window, as the presets are already located in the path: "C:\Users\{username}\Documents\VST3 Presets\Plugin Alliance".

Here is an example showing them in the Reaper plugin window for bx_masterdesk.

4 minutes ago, hhal9000 said:

Yes I did do that.I have this working in Bitwig  and FL studio but not in Cakewalk so something peculiar to Cakewalk or at least my set up in Cakewalk I would think.

If the plugin is installed on your PC and working there in other DAWs, then I would agree that seems to narrows it down to your Cakewalk setup. But that's a fairly basic plugin and works well in Cakewalk here, so that is definitely not normal.

And Ober seems to be hard coded for MIDI channel 1, as is typical with many single timbre synths. When I try it on any MIDI channel other than omni (none) or ch 1, I get nothing. So if you forced it to ch 1, that should have been sufficient. And your video shows active MIDI data in the channel inspector, so Cakewalk is handling the MIDI. Just not getting it to that plugin for whatever reason...

4 minutes ago, hhal9000 said:

Here is a video showing what happens when I play keys on the midi keyboard and what the meters are showing. The left Hand meter shows a reading and the other one shows nothing

That's the same thing that I see when I hit the bypass button inside the plugin.

57 minutes ago, hhal9000 said:

Thanks.Just tryed re-scanning with ''reset'' but no differance.Before I re-install Cakewalk is there any configuration possible in Oberhausen to make sure midi is going to the right place.In Kontact for example sometimes you need to make sure the midi channel is set to Omni.The same for some other instruments.

Ober has few settings. Much simpler that a multi-timbral, multi-output synth like Kontakt.

But there is a on/off bypass button at the top left of the Ober UI that must be enabled to hear it play. Did you check that?

21 minutes ago, Olong Johnson said:

I bought a bunch of Waves plugins during a sale last year - before I understood their update policy. I logged in to my Waves account today and saw it would cost me $141.28 to use them with v14. This price includes the 25% discount. I see absolutely no incentive to do this and I certainly don't see myself purchasing any more Waves products in the future.

If any of the plugins you bought last year are still within the initial 12 month coverage window, you can upgrade them to v14 for free. You would only need to WUP any that have expired in order to upgrade them.

2 hours ago, hhal9000 said:

Yes My keyboard is definately working.If I replace the instrument with any other synth it works as usual. And I can even record midi on the track that I have Oberhausen on but it will not play back sound from Oberhausen. Also If I go to the Piano Roll the notes will play back if I mouse over them but if I use the keyboard on those same notes though the notes show they are being played no sound comes out and the red light on Oberhausen does not light up so no midi coming out of it via my key board. Very strange.

Yes indeed, that is very strange! I might speculate that something, somewhere is corrupt.

I would try re-scanning your plugins with a "Reset" in Cakewalk Preferences > VST Settings > Scan Options.

If that doesn't work, try re-installing Cakewalk.

2 hours ago, abacab said:

WUP required!!! Nope!!!

Those bug fixes should be free. I apparently bought defective plugins...

I understand if they want to charge for new features & improvements, etc. But charging for bug fixes, yikes!!! ?

Don't forget to check any Waves plugins that you acquired in the past year!

They are still covered by the 1 year WUP plan that was included with new plugins, so you can activate v14 for them! I found 9 plugins/bundles that were eligible, including the new Waves Cosmos and CR8 sampler!

I also upgraded to the Inspire Virtual Instruments bundle in the past year, so all of my Waves instruments are still covered!

You will need to log in to your account on the Waves website and look under "My Products", then select upgrade to latest version for each one that you want to upgrade.

Your selected v14 licenses will appear in Waves Central, and you will need to download and activate the new plugins from there.

WUP required!!! Nope!!!

Those bug fixes should be free. I apparently bought defective plugins...

I understand if they want to charge for new features & improvements, etc. But charging for bug fixes, yikes!!! ?

2 hours ago, Fleer said:

Apparently the third-party route still works. 

Did you go that route, or just hearsay...?