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For me, if I were judging on emotional/ sentimental reasons alone, it'd be "Black Water" by the Doobie Bros. But I think "Bridge Over Troubled Water" is the best all around. As far as being both well crafted and hitting an emotional nerve. It has elements from many genres like gospel, classical, folk & country. The lyrics are very heartfelt and Art's voice is beautiful & ethereal. But I'm curious what you guys think is the best song(or two) ever. And is it mainly because it's so well crafted or mainly cause it hits an emotional nerve from your past?

Bobbie Gentry, Ole to Billie Joe

Me too. I know what you mean Awesome! Now we just need two more talented hunks like us and we can start an adult boy band 😎

Wolf, I think u need soundproofing more than me. Youve actually made me count my blessings. When I started this post I was feeling very sory for myself. Now I just feel sory for you 😂

Dang Amberwolf. I feel u bud. It's always worse on weekends. But hang in there brother. Don't go all "Shining" on us 🪓😵‍💫 (😉)

Bobby Darin, Dream Lover

Everly Brothers, All I have to do is Dream

Van Halen, Little Dreamer

And sadly that goes against the whole concept of community. Heck, I get more ticked off for OTHER users here(esp the long time Sonar faithful) than for myself. Like the current Bandlab subscription sale. Which, if I understand right, doesn't apply to current subscribers. HOW IS THAT GOOD BUSINESS?! All that's good for is sowing discontent. And the bakers end up getting undeserved backlash too. Cakewalk is a great daw with a great tech team but yeah, the owners & marketing seem to be out of touch or just uncaring.

Amen! My main concern is because my brother is a great drummer who plays with subtleties, I'd hate to rob him of any of his expressiveness. But truth is, he won't sweat it. He could hit on a hubcap and make it sound good. Also, I could maybe let him use his own snare and mic it up. But Im thinking that wont be necessary with the electric kits Im looking at. After all, Ive seen him rock out little toddler sets... This HAS to be a step up from that 😄

Thanks bud. You actually just described me. I use the Slate drums and fine tune the velocity via mouse. Btw, going back to my original question... How do u route the Alesis kit to Cakewalk? I assume it's usb midi out but does it just use general midi or is there a driver needed?

Iron Maiden, Seventh Son of a Seventh Son

For years I used a Remo practice kit, modded with piezo sensors glued to soup tin lids inside them. I cut the foam inserts in half and wedged the tin in the middle, and put a 3.5mm jack socket at the bottom (in retrospect, the side would have been better... they fall out too easily otherwise, so I had to tape them). These then got plugged into an Alesis DM5, which allowed me to tweak the sensitivity. I had 11 pads in total: kick, snare, 3 x toms, hihat (with a standard sustain pedal as my hi-hat pedal), ride, splash, china and two crash symbols. In fact even now, although I use an Alesis Nitro as my main kit, I still use three of those pads as extra symbols via the DM5. Both the Alesis DM5 or D4 have trigger inputs, so either will work for this kind of setup. My brother, who was my drummer, had a D5 back in the day. He prefered his mics though and only used it for the bass drum but I loved the custom kits he made on it. We played Hard Rock & Metal and they sounded huge. Btw, I appreciate yours & mettelus's diy tips but I think Im just gonna buy a $400 or so mesh kit like an Alesis or Simmons. I been watching lots of reviews on em and they seem to work fine controlling midi in a daw. Which was my main concern. However, I will keep the diy thing in mind if I ever wanna expand on the cheap. 😉

Dont be so cynical Kenny. Dont u know the Whos in Whoville have to make a living too? 🎄🎁 (😁)

Im with u on the bacon stuffed turkey craig but I need my sweet dessert pie. Pumpkin, Sweet potato, apple, blueberry, cherry, pecan... Now we're talkin! 🤗

Thats a good point too. If ur gonna lose a lot of space, it should be worth losing space for. Btw, Im actually a decent drummer too but Im fairly content using my keyboard for drums. My conundrum is that Im wanting to record my brother playing drums on a couple songs and he's a killer drummer. It's really an insult to ask him to play on a cheaper electric kit but since he's my brother, I enjoy insulting him 😄 No really, it's just hard to justify spending a lot for what will prob be an occasional thing. He does of course have a great acoustic kit but that brings up a diff list of probs Id rather avoid. And Ive become pretty spoiled to midi. I guess I just have to weigh it all out a little more.

I'm most thankful for all u guys here in the forum. In fact, to show my appreciation, I'm gonna have another slice of pumpkin pie in yall honor. Although I'm really full and cant zip my pants, I'm willing to make this sacrifice for yall. (I just hope all you ungrateful bastards appreciate this! 😋)

Thanks a lot Sock. Yeah, I never considered midi latency. I'll def look for one with a midi driver. Besides, after researching last night, I learned that the cheap electric kits aren't very expressive(who woulda thought... u actually get what u pay for 😁). I'm realizing this is one area I prob shouldn't cheap out on too much. Which is a dang shame, cause I really love being cheap. 😋

Behringer umc204. I have no issues with latency at all. Mics, guitar, midi... It all tracks perfectly. But the electronic drums will bypass my behringer interface since it's usb midi. So I dont see what the behringer would have to do with the latency of the drums. Am I missing something? The drum kit wouldnt work on the behringer asio driver or would it?

I just found this video. He's using Reaper but he describes the drum module as it's own interface and he uses an asio4all driver. Since my interface has its own dedicated asio driver, Im guessing Id have to switch drivers everytime I want to use the drums?

Thanks. Btw, I added a note after u commented. Im assuming I can have one track(like piano) assigned to the 5 pin midi and the drum track assigned to the usb midi. That way they can be recorded simultaneously. Is that correct?

Im considering getting a cheap electronic drum kit, like a Simmons Titan 20. Currently, I record drums using my keyboard as a controller thru my interface via 5 pin midi, then into Cakewalk with Slate 5.5 drums. The Simmons kit has a usb midi out, not the 5 pin Im used to. Before I buy the kit Im curious how/where I route the usb midi-in in Cakewalk to record using the Slate vst. I've never bypassed the interace before. To my knowledge, the drums dont come with their own driver, or is that even necessary? Note: Im really hoping its easy going back & forth between the two midi sources. And Im also hoping I can record piano(via 5 pin interface) simultaneously with drums(via usb midi)

Eagles, Witchy Woman

Stone Temple Pilots, Piece of Pie

Temple of the Dog, Hunger Strike (Double points- dog & hunger/eat)