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Not specific to any single synth or instrument. This has persisted for me for way more than a decade, on more than one system, two interfaces, in countless projects, with live instruments and synths. ? I just remembered to finally ask here about it. I do see at least one other thread where someone else was talking about these issues earlier in the year. It crashed on me last night - big time when I was trying to dial in a giant verb to a snare sidestick track, on a project that has run flawlessly since I started working on it in April. @Lord Tim - I just downloaded massive. Yep. That does exactly what I'm trying to do with Sonitus when I have my problem. This will work fine for those giant Pink Floyd style verbs. Thanks for the heads up.

I used to love it. It's just too problematic for me. I don't love Breverb, but I don't have these issues when I use it. The verb I really miss is the old FX3 Soundstage.

Thanks. I'll check it out. I'm hoping we're treated to a great reverb in the new Sonar.

Yeah...Tim, I didn't mention that but that's part of what I'm talking about. It seems to cause a late buffer problem with long verbs. That's one sign I'm bumping up against the limitations, even with a bigger buffer setting it's a problem with long verbs - say in the 3 to 5 second window. Sometimes minor, and other times so bad it crashes the session. Not just A session, but a lot over time. I too have had to shut down sessions and open them again. Seems to settle it down sometimes, but I got tired of messing with it so I stopped using it. I have recorded at 24/96 forever with a Motu 24io (because that's where the Motu sounded best) and now for a couple years with a Lynx Aurora at 24/96. Same problem. Perhaps the sampling rate has something to do with my particular problem.

I don't know if this has been discussed before. I've always been a huge fan of the Sonitus Reverb. I feel like I can get any reverb I want from it, but that sucker will crash a session in a heartbeat when I start working with long verbs. And not on just this current system. I've had this problem on multiple systems over the years, and I had to stop using it. I tried using it again yesterday on a long verb and it crashed my session within a couple minutes while I was tweaking options. Am I the only one?

I worried as much about your offensive post as much as I worried about the offensive posts you were worried about. ? This is all just pixels on my screen. I still have to drive home and figure out a way to get there alive. These pixels mean nothing.

That actually sounds like a standard annoyance feature in software that you're using as a demo. Are you demoing any of those plugins?

Have you considered pulling the video card and going with the Intel video on the CPU to see if that's the issue?

Excellent. Thanks for the update.

Personally, I can't stand using take lanes. And I'm no help. But there are some killer videos on YouTube on this topic that should sort you out fine.

Honestly, I'd pay for it as is. But I sure hope they didn't break it to make it look and act like everything else. The only thing that I find that's even close for my work flow is Cubase. Even that has some crucial problems for me. Probably my own fault for using one DAW for 30 years. I'm not scared to use the free version as long as possible if the new Sonar changes too much. Hell...I used Pro Audio 5 for about a decade because it did exactly what I needed it to do. But that was a lot easier to do in an era where you could avoid OS updates and you never let your machine on the internet.

Once in a while, I still learn a new (old) trick. I'm glad we had this conversation. Thanks.

Well, Mark. I've been using Cakewalk since 94. Never once have I even noticed "Snap By" - or heard of it for that matter. My songwriting workflow has always consisted of TONS of cut clips and snapping to the grid. And I can't tell you how many countless hours I spent in the early versions manually fading my cut points because of clicks and pops. And the auto-crossfade never cut at the snap point so I never could use it. I just played around with "Snap By"...and now I feel like an idiot. ? Dare I ask? HOW LONG has "Snap By" been a thing?

Yeah. I can't wait to pay for Sonar again. ?

Track/Bounce to Tracks and choose the split mono option.

Klaus...I've had that disabled since the mid 90's because it causes splits to not fall exactly where you place the transport. The problem with Auto-Crossfade is this: Say you're clipping the left side of a waveform on beat 2. When you split it with Auto-Crossfade activated, the clip actually splits BEFORE beat 2 and then fades-in to beat 2. Do it....look closely. You'll see what I mean. And then, if you decide to drag and drop that clip onto a different part of the grid, it snaps to that cut point (which was never on the grid) - and the audio is off by that much. I've never understood how this is useful for anyone.

Hi Mark. Indeed, it works that way. The problem I have with the auto-fade function is that it snips the clip at a point prior to and after the desired grid line and fades into or out of your intended split point. If you do that to a group of tracks and then drag that group of waveforms over a few beats, now EVERYTHING is off by that much because it snaps to the cut where the fade starts. That's no good. If you guys change the S shortcut to do the same and I can't shut it off, it'll ruin me. I've been using S to split clips for a couple decades man....don't do that to me! ?

To be frank, it doesn't matter if I or anyone else agrees or disagrees with your speaker choice. Neither of those sets of speakers are "cheap". But you are here asking why your mixes won't translate when you mix with your speakers. For future reference, you can "demo" the higher end gear through the on-line gear shops. Basically, you pay for it and they ship you a demo unit. That gives you a few days to use it and decide - in the real world. If you don't like it you can ship it back and try something else or get your money back. Once you decide you love a piece of gear you can ship back the demo and get a new one delivered. Happy mixing!

I fought and fought these problems as a younger man - even in a well treated room - thinking I could make due with what I had. I'd burn 10+ throw away CDR's a day trying to dial in a mix until I got speakers I could trust, and not just speakers I had listened to a lot. It was very frustrating. I was using Alesis Montior One speakers in the beginning. I thought they sounded great. And heck...they were studio monitors, right? You can have speakers you love to listen to, and know very well, and they can still straight-up lie to you when you mix on them. To be totally honest, I don't like listening to music on the speakers I mix on, even today. But they deliver a mix I can trust. And I knew that when I did my very first mix and took it to my car many years ago. They still astound me when I take a mix out in the real world, how well the mix translates. Some good advice has been given in this thread. And if none of it gets you where you need to be, I'll just add that - if I were a young man today and I was broke like most young people are, I'd certainly look into the Slate VSX, Waves NX or Sonarworks software and consider mixing that way until I saved enough cash to demo my first set of great monitors. Not just decent. Not just what I can afford today. A wise man once told me to stop buying cheap crap just because you can't afford the good stuff - when you already know you'll want to upgrade later. Save your money and buy a world-class solution once and move on. Speakers are definitely on that list of crap.

Yes...pops and crackles you'd have to deal with manually, one way or the other. The custom button is quick. But having the ability to tweak this in preferences would be ideal so that you'd never have to worry about it again.

I have a custom button set up for a 1ms fade to "Fade Selected Clips" after I split a clip. I lasso the clips and hit the button. It applies the fade to both ends of any clip I highlight. This totally stops any audible click or pop when splitting a clip at a non-zero crossing. PLUS, that 1ms fade in and out is so fast that it's not audible. It would be good to see an "Auto-fade when Splitting Clips" setting in Preferences where a user can set the auto-fade time as he/she see fit. I know there's a setting similar to this for comping. And I know there's a setting for auto crossfade. But I'm specifically talking about splitting a clip in two and then having the fade applied automatically to the new clip sections that don't overlap.

That's odd. Looks like, on my system, all mutes are cancelled while the bounce processes...and then goes back to muted at completion.

I regularly use their Microshift and Alterboy on a vocal bus in Cakewalk. I can't even have those turned on in the project if I want to track anything else on other tracks. When I dropped them in Reaper, I tracked all day with them on the vocal bus while I tracked guitars and whatnot. I still was unable to track vocals in real time without a huge latency issue. Not a real problem...don't need it for tracking. Point is...for some reason they play way nicer (and as VST3) with Reaper. I didn't test to see if that was because of Reaper's Anticipative FX Processing or not.

That's true. Before posting here I contacted them and asked for the previous installer. They happily supplied it via link.