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I agree that I don't mind them blocking competitors. I just suspect that Cakewalk is underestimating programs that have advanced a lot over the years. I firmly believe that Ableton and FL can do more traditional things that Cakewalk theoretically has an edge on than the other way around. I know folk guitarists and singer songwriters who swear by Ableton. Cakewalks loop tools are aimed at producers who use loops in a straightforward way that conforms more to the stereotype of how sample loops are used than the reality.

Before I start, I want to be clear I am not trying to be argumentative. I'm just having a frank conversation about one of the things I think has long been a stumbling block for Cakewalk. Yes, Cakewalk has ability to handle loops, but it requires workarounds for usage that genres that are sample heavily rely on. I'm not an Ableton user, but I think there are more things that I can do in Ableton but not in Cakewalk than the other way around. Ableton functions like most linear DAWs in timeline view. Where Cakewalk falls woefully short when it comes to working with samples are: the lack of robust integrated sampler Lack of native ability to manipulate chopped samples in a musical way. In most DAWs, "traditional" or not, a REX file can be imported into either an integrated sampler or integrated drum solution with slices mapped and a Midi file of slice patter generated. Even if using WAVs, I can slice a file and send all of those slices mapped to either drum pads or keys. Genres that manipulate breaks like Jungle or Breakcore are beyond tedious to do in Cakewalk. For those with tons of third party software it's not insurmountable, but it does show that Cakewalk has always had a huge disconnect from younger audiences. If I am missing something, please let me know .

Thanks for clarification. Not looking a gift horse in the mouth, but looping is a small subset of each of those programs. Both are capable of functioning very similar to Calewalk.i honestly think one of the mistakes made by cakewalk is not doing a better job of providing the best parts of each of those programs, as well as the robust features that would be effective for classical music. The stereotypes associated with earlier versions of the program are outdated to say the least. FL has arguably the best piano roll of any DAW and now that they have added timeline style recording, there is not much that can be done in cakewalk that can't be done in either program . There are tons if Ableton users who never use looping.

It's not far off of image line site price

This may not be allowed since competing DAW posts are no longer allowed

I think it's different now that they are trying to sell DAWs instead of supporting a free one. If it were me, I would those as opportunities to sell us on Bandlab offerings that compete favorably. Cakewalks's base has been very loyal to product despite being able to discuss other products . Cakewalk used to be good about having staff interact with forum to find solutions to features offered in competing products. It's their forum, so I still appreciate them offering it at a time when other forums are closing or only offering to subscribers

I like the principle of cosmos but never use it

I refuse to do that on pure principle

I don't mind getting just the samples and may pick up hazy days. I rarely use my maschine

I do understand you calling out the confusing pricing . I think i acknowledged that was annoying, but that happens sometimes with so many sales, promotions being offered by both developer and third parties. I welcome you to forum as well. Sone good people here.

I think we are so spoiled and own so many plugins and samples that anything less than giving away the farm seems like it's not a deal. This is not the "best" deal they have ever offered, but for someone that does not own these products it's not bad. Yes, value is somewhat hyperbole, but you said the key phrase referring to these often being discounted. Often is not always so posting the retail value is not a giant stretch on anything except the le products . I don't personally have need of this product, but I can see it being useful and a deal for a beginner.

Damn. That was quick

Country western music, surprisingly to some and not so much to anyone who has ever been to dive bars in bible belt, has the highest references to drugs and alcohol than any genre. People tend to cherry pick the variation of things they like that seem positive to them while ignoring the less savory or they end up spinning aspects that many find negative into positive . I grew up listening to many genres, including country and a brawl is just as likely in a country music playing dive as any place playing rap.

I think it's more nuanced than that. Kids listen to more music than ever before. Streaming makes access more possible than ever. As far as defining them, this is also situational. I don't think there has ever been a more literally defining genre than Drill in the US. Unlike the gangsta rap of the 90's that was mostly fantasy ( or dramatization of reality, drill tends to document real situations with real consequences, including many fatal responses to literal lyrics chronicling murder. There have been at least 600nof these over the last few years. Aside from the depressing death scenarios, tiktok and social media has made music very prevalent amd degining in arguably less than desirable ways. Every week there's a new challenge.

Oversimplified answer: A genre that was originally inspired by dancehall reggae, particularly the Dem Bow riddim (and other similar electronic riddims) with lyrics mostly in Spanish instead of Jamaican patois. It tends to have lyrics more akin to the "slackness" of dancehall, while ignoring the socially conscious lyrics of roots reggae. Modern reggaeton has moved farther and farther from its reggae roots . Not saying that is a good or bad thing.

I think IK's suite matches well overall with products like Waves. The only area I have a minor issue with is they seem to be CPU heavy in comparison to similar products. This has caused me to hesitate to use across multiple tracks in larger projects. Has CPU efficiency been improved?

V14 broke in studio one when they dod the attemlt.at sub only. Forced me to upgrade to version 6

Since it seems like this will be the norm to have this sale, Doing this every few years os a better alternative to paying WUP.

I have a UR22. It is not my primary interface anymore, but it is durable. I keep it in my backpack amd ot has been through war. The preamps are crap loke most consumer level interfaces.

Isn't this always free? Good product

I picked up one . Hard to go wrong at that price.

The same person who thought of one knob pumper

I used this for years because I found it better and easier to use than paid products I owned. Great freebie

Big thanks to you again!!

I thought this was about Adobe from title. I still use the Waves plugins I already have, but have no desire to buy more. There's only a couple of plugins that I don't have other products that are equivalent or better.