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Is you keyboard showing and checked in Preferences/ midi/ devices / input I know you mentioned this but just double checking
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Yes we cooked the old gobbler and everything there. Still puttering with some finishing touches.
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Good job. I realized I removed the fake vocal and the guitar lik because I use this as a backing track. Yours seems like it’s playing slow? The Combi F is totally the correct instrument
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Good idea for a topic. I'm always evolving. Right now my go to stuff is Pro channels on most tracks with the EQ very minor tweaks like Lo pass. Also the PC76 Compressor Guitar Acoustic and electric I always use TH3 with at least the stomp box compressor and sometimes the Chorus or Flanger. For global reverb I use Acon Digital Verberate Basic 2 For delay I use something different every time but most used is the Sonitus Delay On my master bus my chain right now is-LP 64 Multiband- BT Brickwall- Span and Youlean meters. I sometimes use BBE Sonic maximizer on live recordings of drums. I missed the question about your looking for vocals, My secrete weapon is this Find the right mike for your voice. Don't just go by what others are using and popularity. It took 20 years but I have settled on a plain old Shure Beta 58 with a good pop filter. I also use a Joe Meek 3Q pre amp so I can avoid using my interface pre's. This set up nets me a solid vocal track that sounds the way I want it to song after song. So in the end I don't really need to process my vocals other than the very light touch of the PC 76 and then the standard bits of reverb and delay. In other word don't just record thinking you can fix this later. Only record thinking this is it, this is a good sounding track without processing.
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My experience is my Roland keyboard and my Yamaha midi drums both came with a midi/USB driver. They always reconnect with Cakewalk but I do have to go into preferences and re check the midi input box. My Akai synth station doesn’t have a midi driver and does not show in preferences until I restart Cakewalk
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I use Movie Maker ( Vegas) now distributed by Magix. I paid about $30 on sale and it’s a bargain. Even I figured it out in a few hours I tried Cakewalks video option and it’s just way to convoluted. I think it’s meant for scoring movies using multi tracks for music, dialogue and sound effects. Movie maker uses ASIO and your audio interface as well as it has unlimited audio and video tracks. Add text pictures etc and you can output to any format And a big bonus is it can use all your VST audio plug ins. It also comes with Sound Forge wave editor which is on it own worth the price. You can open any audio track directly to SF from within Movie Maker. Great for live videos with bad sound There’s lots of free video editing software around but this is Cakewalks video equivalent
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How do you automate without CC changes? (NOOB ALERT!)
John Vere replied to Christopher Burke's topic in Cakewalk by BandLab
What you are up against is your workflow was 20 years ago. Modern DAWS ( not called VST’s. A VST is a virtual instrument ). Do all the fiddling around for you. Nobody really needs to use CC events any more unless your working with old school GM. All the parameters are easily dialled in within each VST using their GUI interfaces And volume panning and effects all can be automated. But if your dead set on doing some things the slow and painful way you can enter data into the Event list. Just like in 1985 on my Atari ? -
I absolutely love Melodyne 5 Assistant. I grabbed the upgrade for only $99 Black Friday deal. It's actually the first time I've used the editor because in the past every time I tried to use it it would freeze up Cakewalk or warn me that my Memory was full? So now for me the opposite is true. Things are working smooth a silk and I have probably spent a few days worth of time using it and never a crash or a glitch. I work with short clips and then immediately render them. Always keep a copy of your original in a safe place.
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Did you change the tab? The default is to Recent Projects and you might just be missing that you need to click on New Project.
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Errors, errors, and more errors...
John Vere replied to Diana Chahine's topic in Cakewalk by BandLab
I think it was a long way back in this thread that that was my conclusion. Because nothing else made sense. I sure hope this works as normally it's not this much of a hassle to set up a DAW. -
Most people avoid Bundle files due to weirdness happening.
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@scook Yes, That's what I would have thought. It was actually the way a few people answered the OP that I made the assumption that Simple instrument tracks couldn't use audio effects. I've never used one so have no first hand experience. The correct first answer might have been " Insert the audio effects in the instrument tracks Effects bin or the Pro Channel FX Chain." I used to be in the habit of just trying things myself before answering. Using a phone results in me being incorrect too many times because I can not test. I have to abstain from answering with my phone ?
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Funny I didn’t know that you cannot add audio effects to a simple instrument track. I guess that’s why I have never used them.
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I think as well you can just sign in to you old Cakewalk My Account which was on top of the legacy Forum page. FYI. CbB is Splat. There is no reason to use the older version. All your goodies should work the same in CbB
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Where is output 2 setting for my Steinberg Interface?
John Vere replied to RICHARD HUTCHINS's topic in Cakewalk by BandLab
Why are you using ASIO4all?? Steinberg has a top quality asio drivers and your using a iffy driver?? I think this comes up because people are having sound issues and there are WAY to many idiots out there who advice trying Asio4all. It used to be a solution a long time ago. We totally don't need it now as we have WASAPI which for most folks will work the best for on board sound cards. If you have an Audio interface it will come with a proper ASIO driver- USE IT. -
Yes as he said best to use a cloud storage that you share. See which one allows larger files. I use One Drive to share between my computers at home. What's cool about a shared folder is the version stays updated as you both add parts. One way to conserve file size is to take finished audio tracks and bounce them to a single track, Then use SAVE AS to make a new file. When I once did an online collaboration I converted the bass part to midi using Melodyne. Then I sub mixed the vocal and guitar to one track. Midi is real small. When he sent the project back he had added piano and organ which were midi. I then just opened the original full project and dropped his parts into it. You can do the same with audio. Just have a working copy and keep the full version in a different folder.
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Where is output 2 setting for my Steinberg Interface?
John Vere replied to RICHARD HUTCHINS's topic in Cakewalk by BandLab
It should looks like this only less inputs SO for my second mike input I use the Right Focusrite USB ASIO Mic1 If your list doesn't look like mine make sure your using ASIO and your preferences look something like this And I'm going to assume you turned the input gain knob up until the peak light goes red and backed off a hair. -
Yes the worst one was IK media which was said to be a free VST etc. and they were not. They were all demos and I think it was a huge download. It was very invasive. They might make good products but I was so p---d at that I got rid of the works after only trying one. I love the companies that just give you the .dll and a library folder to drag and drop after you unzip. Then you just enter the serial number the first time you load it. That's seems like all any VST should need to do. Also Air forces you to install iLok which is also a PITA.
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I just rebuilt a computer and as is my habit I do a few things before i INSTALL cBb. First like others here I have to install bits and pieces of my older Sonar installs so as to get the Goodies that came with them. And at this point I install the latest drivers for my Interface which is a Scarlett 6i6 in this case. I have done this same procedure many times as I think Cakewalk likes to find my ASIO device on installation. I then install CbB and first thing I do is check my Audio preferences. In the dozens of times I've been through this my Scarlett ( or others) have always been the only audio device and ASIO is up and running. I have never had to change driver modes from WASAPI. So I can only assume you opened Cakewalk at some point before you installed your drivers. But it still does not seem right you had to do this 3 times so another assumption is possibly you have not set USB power suspend to disabled in Power advanced options and the interface was not on line. @scook Yes possibly there are still some poorly written ASIO drivers ( like Creative) kicking around but I think we've come a long way in the last 5 or so years. Seems drivers overall have greatly improved. Both my Scarlett and Tascam drivers are now miles ahead of the original releases. If you remember the thread about testing your timing offset years ago, everyone who tried it had almost perfect results using ASIO. I can't remember someone testing that didn't and this sort of covered a lot of brands of interfaces. If the timing was out it was by a very tiny amount that would not have any impact on recording overdubs. Even iffy ASIO drivers performed better than none ASIO drivers. All cases of testing other modes , if you could, the timing was out by as much as a 1/8 note ( to use a well know reference ) so we collectively came to the conclusion that the recording timing offset was super important and people should be aware of this. That's why it's nasty when a generic ASIO driver takes over your Recording Latency dialog box and that's why I will continue to warn people of the downside of other driver modes. Often they are totally fine for everything but recording overdubs.
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Only ASIO will report RTL correctly to Cakewalk. Even though WASAPI is your second best driver mode it will not sync overdubbed tracks. You don't believe me do a loopback test. You'll be fine once you install and use ASIO.
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Ya, I love the way Air products sound and they are cheap on sale. But I have come to the conclusion the installer is broken. After rebuilding 2 computers this month that was the only product that is a huge time suck. It always looses the libraries. And if you dare to change the pathways forget it.
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You don't mention which interface you are using which makes a big difference. The design and the ASIO drivers all contribute to Round Trip Latency. ( RTL) And if your System can't process the data because of DPC latency your audio engine with bog down when using super low buffer settings. So your Computers specs are also part of the equation. Then your OS and the millions of background tasks also hog DPC by constantly jumping into your buffers and kicking your audio out. To achieve super low RTL you need a top quality interface with real good ASIO drivers. A fast multi core computer The Computer needs to be optimized to death. Correctly set up your DAW by stripping down the project to bare bones while tracking with effects. Running Latency Monitor is a good place to start.
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Here's a re mix using AD 2, Ample P Bass, Added TH3 to guitar track , Changed OOOs to a weird synth. Tried a new organ freebie Colla B3 1 OK I just tried again and it's working now cool Believer Johns.mp3