John Vere

@In A Week, @User 905133 Not sure why some people are having a problem with this. As I said the Melodyne audio to midi has been built in to Cakewalk for a long time now and is part of the Cakewalk ARA VST system. You don't need a Melodyne license to run this. To verify I opened a project on my Laptop which is my 3rd DAW set up. I don't have anything but CbB on it. No Sonar or it's goodies. I did this so I could verify what a new user would have to work with. It does not have anything unless it was free for the taking from Cakewalk and 3rd party vendors. So therefore no Melodyne license. It is running the latest version of Cakewalk as I just updated it for the test. Had no problem dragging an Audio bass track to a midi track. What I first noticed was I did not get a dialog box asking for any algorithm. This makes sense because I don't have Melodyne 5 on this machine. But it works just fine and I now have a midi clone of my bass track just like I have done a zillion times before. I then opened a vocal clip as a regional effect and the screen shot shows I haven't even activated the demo license and it seems the version is 4. This also makes sense because I originally installed CbB last Summer and 4 would have been the demo. If I click on activate it wants me to create a Melodyne account etc. Even so if I had run the demo into the ground the audio to midi would still work. The monophonic conversion to midi works via ARA and it doesn't matter which version of Melodyne you own or don't own. @Noel Borthwick and @scook have mentioned this in a few threads. I've tagged them here just to confirm my understanding is correct. One thing to check if your having issues, is make sure there is no active regional effects or even automation on the track. It has to be a clean audio track. I noticed I had audio snap on the bass track and I had to disable that first.

Apparently you don’t need BL assistant any more you can log in from within CbB in the help menu

So there’s a thread just started we’re the op is having trouble updating Cakewalk from within BL assistant should I tell them not to bother and to use CbB help menu?

I have used the Ample P Bass lite free VST on all my backing tracks for a few years now. Only issue is it is a 4 string bass so no going below low E. When I need that I just use SI bass on those notes using a separate midi track I find it very accurate and it sits in the mix perfectly. I even fooled my self once thinking it was my real bass. I play all my parts on my Yamaha bass and drag them to a midi track then use that to trigger PBass lite So even though I’m a seasoned veteran on the bass I prefer to use the VST. That way there’s a consistent sound from song to song which is important to both my backing tracks and my albums. Bass is actually a hard instrument to get a good tone and articulation from. For acoustic bass I useDim Pro. It has a wonderful rubber band slide in the upper velocities

Do you still have the track in record standby?

Regarding #1- Did you add anything to the project you are recording to. That's what I mean when I say processing. That implies there could be effects added to the track , bus or master bus that would make the sound different. Regarding #2 - You will need to read the owners manual and see what options are inside the box as far as signal path. You might find more out by posting a question on the Line 6 user forum. This is not really a Cakewalk issue. It's user error in setting up a device or user error in Cakewalk signal chain. We've seen lots of posts with a similar title to this thread only to find out 25 posts later the user had added an effect that was causing all the issues. Because you haven't started with all the information about what your doing it takes a lot longer to get a solution. I did just notice one thing from your first post . Your buffer setting might be to high. Somewhere in the middle like 256 is normal. To high a setting can cause trouble on some systems. But that wouldn't cuase your issue.

#1 rule when purchasing an Audio interface for a Windows System- Check the manufactures web site before you purchase and make sure there is an up to date ASIO driver for it. Class Compliant drivers work fine on a Mac but rarely on a PC. And if all they are offering is Asio4all that is actually worse than nothing at all. Hopefully the device might work under WASAPI but then why does Alesis tell you to use Asio4all? It like they didn't even test the device on windows at all. Oh @Promidi Asio4all is actually a WDM wrapper not WASAPI.

Ok so it seems like your playback system is working properly Then only thing left would be either of two things 1. You have added processing in Cakewalk that alters the sound 2. The monitoring of the sound at the interface is not what is being recorded.

Had to laugh because first thing came to mind was In the early years of midi we had a panic button (Cakewalk still does) to kill stuck notes that were caused by the “ midi log jam” Second thought was when my cat slept on my keyboard. Third thought is record a chord for a few measures and set the tempo at 1bpm.

I see mr Sica gave Marks comment a thumbs down? you are annoyed that they only ask for a donation?? If you like the software then pay for it, a very simple system. If you don't like it, don't use it. And your asking for help to basically Hack/ Pirate the software which is sort of against the rules here. This thread reminds me I haven't un packed my Yamaha DTX kit since I moved 2 years ago! For sure you can trigger any VST even pianos if you wanna be weird. But make sure you bypass all audio effect to bring your midi latency down. I found I played better if I monitored the Brain while recording as there is no latency at all that way.

There's no support for X1 for 14 years or more. You'll have to use Google to find old threads. It was a very buggy version of Cakewalk so I wouldn't invest to much time in it But midi hasn't changed much. I have a bunch of Tutorials on how to set up midi https://sites.google.com/view/cactus-studios/cakewalk-videos

It was the same with Sonar. I had a free version of Guitar Studio came with my Roland keyboard. I bought 8.5 for $100 off a friend who never had used it. ( still have the box) I got X1 LE free with my Tascam interface. So almost a free ride for the first 10 years. I registered and signed up for emails ( this is the ticket) I got an offer to upgrade X1 LE ( the version I never used) to X3 Studio for $99. That turned into an upgrade to Sonar Professional for another $99. That turned into Sonar Platinum for another $150. So between 2004 and 2017 my total investment was under $500. I think that's the full price of the original Splat. What I can't remember is if I ever paid for any updates of Splat during the weird time for Sonar before it got the boot from Gibson.

I got Assistant 5 for $99 on sale as an upgrade from Essential 4. I think I paid $99 for Essential 4 as an upgrade from the free version that came with X3. And yes I found a big difference in stability. My computer is not very powerful and I only have 12 GB of RAM. But once I watched the video on the new release and they showed very quickly how it actually works I started using it and within a short time I sort of mastered as much as I needed to master. I did the vocal tracks of about 10 songs that week...whoops,, I shouldn't admit I needed it Ya I wouldn't pay that much for it either unless I made a living with it but sign up for Emails from them and eventually they'll have it on sale again.. I would hope>> Oh and by the way , I just opened V Vocal and it didn't crash, I'm 100% up to date both Cakewalk and W10. I didn't work with it but it seemed OK. I always found you had to use real short clips..

Here you say you were using ASIO but your screen shot say's WASAPI Exclusive? Change back to ASIO for the troubleshooting. WASAPI probably is fine but not all audio interfaces support it. Sorry if my screen shot implied you should use WASAPI, I just grabbed it from a folder I have with screen shots. WASAPI is for using on Board audio. And you didn't answers my questions #1 & 2.

Sorry I guess your not familiar with audio terminology. What are you using to listen to the playback? ( monitoring) 1- What is your Master Buss Output sending to - Your computer speakers ( on board audio ) or your Zoom audio interface ( ASIO ) . 2- Are you using the same speakers/ headphones to listen. Screen shots of your audio settings might help us figure this out. Take a shot of the Devices, Driver settings, and playback and recording tabs. If you don't know how to make a screen shot you just press the Windows key and prtscn it will save to your Pictures library under screenshots.

Well I used to say the same thing, but then if the user is not planning on recording audio they don't really need one. It's another aspect of the "free" DAW world. Musicians are used to spending money on their gear. Musicians will need an Audio interface or they won't get far recording themselves, well I guess a keyboard player who doesn't sing would be the exception. But I think a huge chunk of new users are all non musicians. They use a DAW to glue together pre recorded audio and midi clips. I call them DJ's just to generalize. They create something that is called music, but they are not what I call a musician. Musicians play instruments. We even allow drummers and singers into that circle

Thanks for updating and letting the community know you found a solution. Many don't. Your thread might help others now.

OK, that is more or less the perfect level to record at so that is not the issue. This rules out that you are not overdriving your pre amps or the A/D convertors. So this only implies that your monitoring system is defective. What are you using for playback monitoring?

I was a V Vocal hold out up until this fall when I finally sat down and figured out Melodyne. I had grabbed the upgrade to Melodyne 5 on sale so had incentive to make it work after all these years of giving up. If you do take the time to learn Melodyne you would never use V Vocal again. Trust me.

The trick with regional effects ( RFX) is to use them and then render the clip so the RFX is gone. With drum replacer I extract the midi data and drag it to a midi track because I don't like any of the built in samples. I use this data to trigger Addictive Drums. Once I have my midi data I undo the RFX. I will now have the original audio track and the midi data to match. This goes for working with Melodyne too. I open the clip in Melodyne, fix it and then render. You can always re open but I've never had to. I think that RFX if left active build up in the memory of the project and slow everything down.

Yes that Realtech ASIO driver has shown to be the heart of a lot of recent posts here that are titled " No Sound!".

This is a midi track but the meters look the same.

On the audio track you recorded to what do the meters show when you set the track in record standby and play?

It’s why I made the video. In the past the people willing to invest $300- $500 in the software thought nothing of spending the additional $200+ on the audio interface and then even more on proper studio equipment like mikes and monitors. So a basic studio set up would run you $1,500 and up. We now have the majority of new users who attempt this for free. So sadly on board audio now the new standard