John Vere

You should get an A+ for trouble shooting. Sorry I don’t have a solution other than I have seen a few threads like this where Izotope plug ins were doing the same. I ran into the same issue when trying the demos. In the end I didn’t see the benefits of using them as I’m not a fan of magic tricks to make stuff sound better. I think they might be good tools for people who don’t have a grasp on mastering yet. I found there’s nothing they do that standard tools can’t do. It’s just a package. But that said they should work and I’m sure a lot of people never have issues. It must be a combination of Cakewalk and certain systems or Drivers. This is a Cakewalk issue if other DAW’s don’t have issues. Cakewalk has old code upon old code. Reaper is probably more streamlined. Be interesting to try on a few other DAW’s like Cubase and Studio one.

FYI. It takes 3 seconds to top and tail an audio file in a wave editor. That’s my solution to the unwanted space at the beginning and end of song for going on 20 years now.

The audio is stored as a wave file in the audio folder. You can open the folder and drag and drop it to a new track. It will be identical. But in my many years of using Sonar and Cakewalk I’ve never had any difference between an original or a copy of any audio or midi tracks. And I think I’ve used every method of duplication available. Bounce to track with the boxes checked is the only one I can think of that prints effects to the new track. Most other methods just make a new copy of the tracks original data. The effects and the level settings are not part of the audio data stored in the audio folder. So there should be no difference unless you’re rendering your tracks first. Or bouncing.

You don’t say or show what the instrument is. Can’t see the dialogue boxes in your screen shot. The setting you want might be in the VST itself.

By the way. Next time include the dialogue boxes that shows the input, output, channel, bank and patch. What you showed was of no help.

You might want to study the signal flow diagram. Audio is 100% controlled by your interface. That audio goes directly to the track exactly as it was input. Nothing in the DAW is printed to “tape”. Using input echo will give you a way to monitor what you will hear on playback of the new track. It sends the input through the tracks effects and then to any busses and back out to be combined with the other tracks. But this is a delayed signal compared to the all ready recorded material. This is not what was recorded. We use the direct monitoring feature of the interface so you can play in sync with the other tracks. Otherwise your hearing your systems latency as a variable amount of delay. This might cause timing issues. Audio interfaces with Loopback channels allow you to use Stand alone Apps like sims and record the Wet single directly. If you’re a amp sims user you would benefit from using an interface with loop back as this is what you’re trying to do. Print effect to tape. You can’t do this with a basic interface like a solo. Well you could, but you would need a small mixer etc.

For me this issue was resolved with my new interface which has the loop back feature. I think the reason is they designed the ASIO driver to specifically allow windows apps to share. They advertise this as such so you can record a YouTube audio output directly to your Daw. But the sample rate has to match.

It’s actually not clear what the op wanted. But yes Cakewalk does save user preferences and settings locally so if you re install on that computer it detects the old install and asks if you want to use those settings. there’s most likely a way to copy this between machines, sorry I don’t know the location but I’m sure @scook will.

Ya I noticed that too. But is not VST a Steinberg invention ?! and Steinberg is more Mac than it is PC. I assumed they must be running Cakewalk under Bootcamp or one of the unfortunate people who tried the famous Mac version of Sonar

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I lost track of this thread a few pages ago. But was it ever mentioned o make sure to use MME midi mode with most legacy devices?

Can you solo the instrument track? You say you’re soloing midi tracks. Normally when you solo a midi track it will also solo the instrument it was assigned to automatically.

And you didn’t make backups of all your goodies? All of your Old Sonar effects are individual programs with serials etc. Most can be used with out the server if you made copies and wrote down the numbers. Some of the companies like Overloud were nice enough to give us codes if you sent a screenshot of your Sonar serial number. The only thing you actually need the server for is to install Sonar itself which you actually don’t need if you don’t use those included effects Anyhow when you get your account working again. Back it up.

Don’t give up on them yet. Remember the guy who replied after 3 months. Lately If someone has answered a question I wait until the op replies before tossing in my 2 cents

Even though this sounds rude I have to agree with mr Dickens. If your pitch is that far off might be a good idea to do some voice training. We all started somewhere and singing is all about control of your voice. That only comes with practice, just like a basketball shot. I haven’t looked but I would imagine that there are many good tutorials on singing now. That said there’s definitely a way to use midi to control vocals. I think the hardware to do that was originally made here in BC in the 80’s. Possibly better versions of Melodyne can do this? Anyways glad you’re finally using it properly and you can move forward from there.

Melodyn is not normally used in an effects bin. It is a Regional Effect. Is that why you are freezing? The preferred way to work with Melodyne editor is first make a copy of the track and archive it as a back up.. You highlight a preferably short audio clip, right click to open the dialog shown in my screen shot. Then choose as shown to Create a regional effect. This will open Melodyne editor . When your finished editing then open the same dialog and choose "Render Regional effect" This prints the editing to the audio file permanently. and frees up CPU and Memory usage. If you found you need to re do something it's easy to use the back up copy of the track.

In preferences/midi/devices- make sure to check input is checked for your keyboard controller if you are using one. In output best to uncheck all boxes unless you are using hardware synths. The output of all midi tracks needs to be sent to a VST instrument. Use the add track + icon to insert an instrument

Bottom line is there’s always more than one way to do the same things in Cakewalk. And the choice of what view you use too. We have as above found you can use the PVR, Event list and Track View. I would imagine you can also use the Notation view as well ?

If your end goal is mixing for games then you would want a few of those commonly used systems to proof on. No point proofing a gaming soundtrack on a car stereo ? As it is a set of gaming headphones might be perfect. And might as well turn those awful enhancements on because guess what they were made for!

Most of us have invested in good studio monitors that we "learn" how they sound. I have a set of Yamaha NSM10's that you used to find in every studio in the world almost. They are arguably the most used "proofing the mix" monitors ever. But they are actually not very interesting speakers to listen to recorded music on because they are a bit boring. Go figure. They are a fluke I guess. But I have use these for 25 years so I can listen and know within 98% of how my music will sound in the real world on all sorts of systems. This is called Translating to other systems and they certainly do this well. So you will have to invest in the same type of system if you can. Otherwise you are faced with the option of listening to your music on as many systems as possible and taking notes. This is a HUGE task but it can work. I still proof my mixes on a kitchen getto blaster and my Trucks CD player driving at 110 K. I also now upload the songs to Sound/click/cloud and listen on my iPhone's speaker- this is probably 90% of where it will go. But because I have "learned" my monitors I rarely need to re mix for balance and quality. Bass can be the biggest issue for new comers. Use Span so "look" at your spectrum. Enhancers most often boost bass and if there's already too much you just get distortion.

I don't think I've used a recovery version but I will assume it will have saved the exact state of the project at the time of the crash. Probably not the last edit you did and if you haven't been rendering the Melodyne tracks then all of it would be lost. What happens is you can overload your computers memory I do do believe. If your saying it "looks" different then possibly you have a different workspace loaded? The good news is the original is still just fine and if you only lost the work you did in that session then as I said, lesson learned. We only do that once( hopefully

Lesson learned. It's been talked about a lot here and most of use have learned that when working with Melodyne your need to do 3 things. 1- Work with a copy of the original vocal track so you can always go back. 2- Work with short clips, no more than 2 measures. The shorter the better. 3- Always render the clip when you are finished editing. If you change your mind latter you can copy from the original back up. I break mine into lines between breaths where there's always a visible break. This also serves to clean up the noises between as well. And Always save as you work after you have spent any amount of time you don't want to loose with any editing or recording. And you can always activate auto save but myself that creates clutter in my project folder I don't want. As far as your missing back up. Did you look in the project folder? It will be there and be marked as such.

You can use the event list. That's always been my Go to. Under Views uncheck the Notes and that should only leave weird stuff you might not want and delete it.

Good to know, There's a few threads scattered about on this topic.

The TH3 has a lot of very clean sounds for Jazz and Country, I even use it for Folk stuff on acoustic guitar. . They give you standard amps that have been used in Country music for decades. Try one of the Fenders like the Bass Face or , Dark Face or Tweed with the 12' Tweed Cabinet and adjust it just like you would for a real amp. I actually often don't bother with the amps and just use the pedals. That's even cleaner that way. I have already recorded using an amp. But sometimes I use my Tone Bone DI box. The Compressor, Phasor and Chorus I use a lot. I think the Overload TH3 is all I'll ever need. That and I like to use the Sonitus Delay.