John Vere

Not sure I follow the issue? I use a second monitor. I undocked the multi dock and put it full screen on the second monitor. I can easily change tabs to any view. If I create a regional effect and add Melodyne it pops up on the second monitor in the multi dock. Possibly you are leaving the multi dock on your primary monitor and individually floating each view?

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Good info. That might explain my experience. Prior to making tutorials I always just used advanced. I generally paid no attention to them. I prefer to just customize my view on the fly. I also found screen sets to be way too much of a bother. And I see a lot of long time users saying they use Workspace “none”. And for long time users this probably works fine. But possibly not for a new user. I have a laptop I use for typing out my narrative with an up to date version of Cakewalk installed. I purposely don’t have any older versions of Sonar so I can experience what a new user will have. Only a few free plug ins are added. I also haven’t customized it and I use it in ways I never use my other 2 computers that have Cakewalk and all the goodies installed. On that machine “none” is like the default Basic workspace. Randy will probably be fine with none because it will load up from that file you are mentioning. But in their wisdom to make a new users experience “ simple “ they have set the default to Basic Workspace. This in my opinion was a mistake. Therefore we get all these threads about missing feature. Try it ! load a Basic workspace and see how far you get in your day before having to switch back to Advanced . Probably 10 minutes! It’s like you buy a new car and it only has a steering wheel and a gear shift . Everything else is hidden and only way to find your features are to either read the whole manual or ask a question on a forum . The manufacturer claims it’s so your not distracted while driving .

Actually I prefer using Advanced as that includes all possible features and controls I’m not dead sure none looks the same on every set up.

I have the M4. It is a Mac Centric company as I found out. But it most certainly works with the ASIO driver and CbB. I log 1,000 of hours on it mostly with out issues. It is not as great as I was expecting and was not really the upgrade from my 1st gen Focusrite 6i6 I was thinking I would get. I have to run at a higher buffer which is 2 notches above what the 6i6 can run at on the exact same project. I also had to buy a PCIe USB 3 card because it’s buss powered. The other complaint I have is it hates sharing the driver with other apps. Never have that issue with Focusrite. I have to totally re boot to get Audio back when it goes south. I would switch back to the Focusrite but it doesn’t have loop back and ya I hate having to use the software mixer just to balance cue mixing of input and playback. The M4 has what all interfaces should have A blend control right on the front. Oh well. It’s never a smooth ride when it comes to Windows and Audio.

It’s one thing I like about movie studios registration system. Super straight forward. They give you a simple serial number which is good for 2 installs. Simply uninstall the software from a computer and the license shows as available on your account page. Also just like the old Sonar your account page shows all your Magix products and serials. This includes the older versions if you update. I updated from 14 to 17 for I think $50. Now I have 4 licenses. 2 for 14 and 2 for 17. I installed 14 on my 12 year old grandsons computer no problem. Try that with Cubase!

You can narrow down the search for nasty plug ins. 1st For sure anything 32 bit. 2nd Freebies that are not commonly used by other users. 3rd Waves? seems a lot of threads about this possibly been fixed? 4th Isotope also a few threads about these.

This is correct. They are constantly fixing bugs and it does make it harder to troubleshoot because first step is making sure you’re using the latest version. As far as not liking new features? I can’t think of anything that changed in my workspace at all for a long time. only the new Export dialogue which has been a huge improvement. They even fixed one little item a few of us reported within a week! You most certainly don’t need to use any particular feature. What bugs you? Maybe we can offer a solution.

First I looked in the new export dialogue but there is only lots of options for Audio, no midi found there. So thn I made a quick screen capture of how I export a midi clip. I had already done this yesterday so it did ask to overwrite that file. But no warnings about saving and loosing audio.. Why would it? Yep you can drag a clip of multiple clips to the Browser. I used the short cut to the projects folder and re purposed the "Mix Scenes" folder as a place to drop them. As you can see it numbered each clip correctly too.

Well Cakewalk locks out plenty of stuff. Like all the Blue Tube plugs that I guess came with Sonar. They show on other apps plug in lists but if you try and insert them you are told they are licensed to Cakewalk.

I’m glad that this is normal for others. I always thought it was just my computer being slow to draw.

Good detective work. Might have caused the drag and drop to not work I only tried it with one clip as I assumed this was what the op was doing. In that case it might work better to first bounce to clips or tracks so it’s one clip. But that said it looks like a group of repeating drum loops anyhow so you would only need one to use elsewhere One of my backup / future proof methods is I always “Save As” to a midi file all my projects that contain midi. Most of the time spent on many projects is midi. This is sort of an interesting topic I’m going to play with this today. I bet you can even drag clips back into the Browser

Why didn’t the drag and drop work? It always works. I got curious and just tried it. make Cakewalk screen smaller so I can see the desktop on the right. Point mouse at a midi track click and drag to desktop let go and there’s a file there that plays midi data in any player or back in Cakewalk. Like Jack above if I highlight a midi track and choose export as midi file I don’t get any warning. It just creates a midi file in the project folder. I can’t think of what could be weird about your midi track that this doesn’t work!

Well this is the life of all software users. I’m still using MS Office 2010. I also have a license for 2014 but it only allows 1 computer? 2010 doesn’t seem to care so I have it on everything else. I’m oblivious to any issues I might be suffering because it’s old ??Outdated? I can’t tell . I-have a nice collection of Sonar with 8.5 , X3 and Splat. I won’t count X1 as it’s a POS. If all goes south I can go back to X3 because as you say it is cloud proof. It would suck big time but I’m sure my recordings would still come out just fine. The good news is that Cakewalk is growing at a fast rate with a bigger user base than ever. Google search stats show literally 1,000’s of searches per day for certain keywords. How to use Cakewalk by Bandlab being one of the top search phrases. So I sort of doubt we’re gunna die a sudden death ?. I personally think it’s just going to get better. We can stop waiting for the other shoe to drop If you are paranoid, Just back your projects up in different formats like midi and save your audio tracks as complete stems starting at zero. There’s always a way to use midi and Wave files in any DAW.

Isn't the controller Velocity sensitive? To lazy to look it up, but pretty much all controllers are velocity sensitive so as I said in my first post you "play" velocity by pressing the keys harder or softer. The controller will also have a Velocity curve setting to fine tune your playing style to the keyboards response. I turn off Velocity when recording organ and bass parts, traditional B# are not velocity sensitive and bass I want even for the type of music I make.

Lots of way. Drag the midi clip from the project to a windows folder or desktop Use the file menu export dialogue Save the project as a midi file

Obviously in your controllers settings options the mod wheel is assigned to velocity? Never heard of that one Volume yes, velocity? No. Velocity is normally controlled with the keys. Be aware that velocity is not the same as volume. Velocity changes the timber to reflect a soft or hard attack like how hard you blow, pluck or strike an instrument. For strings it’s often a combination of volume and velocity to get the correct swelling effects etc. This is why velocity is normally controlled with your keyboard so you can be expressive using your hands. I have not worked with the new Articulation feature yet but this sounds like a tool that was made for this stuff too.

First troubleshooting 101. Test that Cakewalk is working by opening. Load a template project activate the metronome on playback and hit the space bar. You should hear audio. So nothing wrong with Cakewalk. Now close this template and open your project from the start screen or the file menu. If Cakewalk crashes its 99% probably a plug in causing this. Open Cakewalk in safe mode and find the garbage plug in. You issue is probably one of your plug ins isn’t installed properly

Not sure if it impacts as I generally don’t have issues but you made me realize that I deleted all that on the web site and didn’t change the settings on that computer yet. I have 1 drive synced to 4 devices including my phone. But I have it set to not download unless I open a document. But not sure about uploading so now on my to do list for today.

I always install Sonar 8.5 first on any new build. Not so much for the few goodies like V Vocal, but just to open it and marvel at how good it looks compared to what happened after with the X series.

Possibly the issue was the clips were of a certain type. I remember reading in the documentation about there are certain attributes that will prevent you from using regional effects https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=Region_FX.01.html

Just one question when you said the Melodyne interface disappears did you check for a tab on the multi dock? As said already you need to fully install a purchased copy of the software, register it etc. Open Cakewalk and let it run the plug in scanner. Then highlight a short audio clip and right click the clip and choose regional effects and Melodyne. This will open a tab in the multi dock with the Melodyne interface.

Funny this came up as I got the your one drive is almost full warning the other day. I opened the web page folders and the issue was my Document folder on my main DAW had been uploaded complete with all the Cakewalk and Addictive Drums etc stuff. Thanks for that tip.

I have started using the Add Track dialogue mostly because I like that I can choose default input and outputs for that session. Here's a few ideas that would possibly improve this feature. Pardon if it's already been requested. 1. Save your preferred setting as either a Workspace option or at least per project. Presently if you close a project your setting are all lost. 2. Add the options for choosing track colours. 3. Add the option to add a Name. 4. Add the option for adding an Icon. 5. A feature missing that is in the Insert Synth dialogue is the "enable Midi output" option.

Here. I just made Workspaces easy. They actually have a very good tool for managing which modules show. Workspaces are no more or no less complicated than using the menu in the control bar.