John Vere

Sounds like a good system. I haven’t had clients around since the pandemic started so I repurposed stuff. But in the past I always used output 3/4 from the interface into a stereo channel of a small Mackie mixer. Then my Joe meek pre amp for vocals has 2 outputs so one of those went to the mixer as well. The mx200 was used in the effects send / return loop so the little mixer was my cue mix. But I thought I’d try it on a few pre recorded tracks a while ago so it’s now set up directly to my interface. Too bad the USB driver was never updated.

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What is the sound you’re after? Possibly someone here can direct you to a free VST that produces the same sound. Sort of why nobody uses Sound fonts anymore they were kinda lame like the sounds in the TTS-1

Sounds like your snap settings.

You don’t need input echo on. You are correct it is only for passing input signal to output of audio tracks. Sorry I don’t have an answer other than saying you seem to have done all the right things following about the same steps I take.

I think he’s using a Mac.

Open the virtual keyboard set it to the QWERTY keyboard and sit on your computer keyboard. Or get your cat to play it. The notation view would be my last choice. PVR my first. Sitting on the keyboard second.

I doubt if the x32 can be told to record in other formats. @Patrick Azzarello I see that explains a lot. I too use backing tracks so totally understand, and especially the part about having better things to do at gigs than fuss with technology. My live recording set up was extra work but I basically set it up and tried to remember it was there as the night progressed. As a result the levels are all over the map but the goal was just recording to see how we sound and what needs improvement. The band broke up 3 years ago so now these tracks are all that remains.

Agreed. I have a Signature 10 with just the 2 channel USB audio and the driver is on par with any of my other interfaces. I bought it for playback as I use a laptop for backing tracks but I tried it with Cakewalk and it was working perfectly fine.

True enough. But if there’s midi latency involved it’s something we have dealt with since the beginning of midi and hooking up midi devices. Boy could you notice it if you dare to daisy chain sound modules together using the Midi thru ports. I immediately purchased a midi patch bay. Roland A880. This was in the 80’s. And as I remember Atari had rock solid Midi timing compared to a PC back then. Probably Apple did too. If all you are doing is working ITB with VST instruments then Midi latency is not a factor. Even if you’re input is from a controller Quantize will make things perfect. But one needs to be aware of latency especially when using hardware synths.

What happens if you disable input echo

It should look like my screenshot in ASIO mode. This is what It looks like in WASAPI shared or WDM modes Therefore why I think @Jeremy Oakes might be right. Looks like your not in ASIO mode. But still, even so you should still have mono input options unless the Soundcraft driver is not working properly. Checking the show Mono outputs doesn't change anything for any of my interfaces but who knows, might work.

Problem I have with these tests, and he admits to this over and over, he makes mistakes in how he was making tests and taking measurements so this tells me the results are probably inaccurate. Also this seems to be using Macs so probably why Cakewalk is not on the lists. Besides, this is sort of data gathering is like saying 96hz sounds better than 48hz. Does the average person really care? Sure it's good to know if your DAW is screwing up your sound, would I change to another DAW if I found out mine is performing at .01 % less quality than another?? nope.

My first thoughts too. Turn off snap and make sure Ripple edit is also disabled Place the now time at the split Hold down Alt key and use the scroll wheel to zoom in. Select the tracks on the right and drag them to the precise spot. Just a quick question. Have you thought about just recording directly into Cakewalk using the x32.? It can do this easily. All you need is a real basic laptop. The one I use is a 2008 Sony with duo 2.3 hz and 4 GB of RAM. It now has a 250 GB ssd drive but I have recorded lots of gigs on the original drive too. It doesn’t take much to record live audio. I have about 20 gigs I’m someday going to edit they are recorded as sets around 1 hour each. I just transferred them to my main daw for editing. Here’s the first one I finished editing, I grabbed a bunch of band photos and even a videos of us playing different songs. https://youtu.be/gaJLIgix32s 300 songs to go?

My point is Cakewalk is an Awesome DAW and definitely is flexible about how you can use it. But if you are working with stereo or mono audio files a Wave Editor will have much better tools and workflow. Of course this is only once you’ve become accustomed to using it. Learning about the tools and the short cut keys etc. As far as the arranger feature you’re needing, most wave editors have markers you can name just like Cakewalk. Not that familiar with Audacity. I have it installed but I use WaveLab, for almost 20 years.

This is why I recommend you export the track and make the edits in a wave editor. Then you can bring it back in to Cakewalk or simply using the Wave editor save each clip as a named file to use as you please. Done zillions of this stuff. Radio adds come to mind.

So I tried Steve's idea and for my issue it was successful. The Audio folder changed the name of the original which was Watchtower, to Dooods the new name I used with Save as, "copy all audio with project" AND "Create one file per clip" enabled. It also added more from the tracks name, nice. But the Clip name still remained the same? That's certainly easier than my idea if you can live with clip names being different. For me that's not an issue as I rarely pay attention to all the gibberish that seems prevalent in naming clips.

Thanks for the comments, much appriciated. I repete, this is a work in progress as part of a tutorial series. and at this point there are no effects. This is on purpose. Well, I did add a touch of EQ to the bass and the drums to queit you all down about that. This is a rough mix. My faders are all at unity other than I did lower this latest track where I've added Harmony for video # 7. I've also added a mystery instrument which will be part of video 8. It's mixed in lower. But all the rest is flat. Here is the latest MIX with these very small changes made. Here is Video 207- https://youtu.be/vOq_dDnnGZg

No this is actually a problem I have had when transfering audio between projects. Say you speed up a version of a song. It's even more important for people who might use loops and short clips. I can see the reasoning behind having it the way it is because the audio clip will aways retain it's original name which might even help sort out which was which in complicated projects that have seen a lot of versions. This is why SAVE AS is a great tool to sort this out by cleaning out the audio folder of junk no longer referenced. But having that audio named for a version of a song would be an asset if you all of a sudden wanted a track back. Be easy to use search to find it.

I just to make sure I wasn't wrong tested SAVE AS and put it in a completly different location. Audio is copied as you would expect because the box was checked. From the documentation Copy all audio with project (Project saves only) When selected, this check box creates a copy of every audio file your project references, regardless of where they are located, and stores them in a folder called Audio Data. The Audio Data folder is created in the folder where you save your project. For example, if you save your project to the following folder: C:\My Project Your project’s audio is saved in the following folder: C:\My Project\Audio Data

Nope, just tried that, Files are still the same, and I do beleieve that is incorrect about save as. It does not reference the audio it copies it to the new location. It actually only copies the audio that is relevent to the currant version of the project. We always tell floks to use SAVE AS to clean up projects. But you need to put it in a new project folder. It possibly references if you save under a new name inside the original folder. In the screen shot original project was Watchtower. You'll also see the audio I dragged from a different project ( yellow ) and then the bounced version below as I was testing. This is the new re named ( dogsbreath) I saves as copy to new location.

I found a solution. Before you do anything back the original project up out of harms way. First I tried drag and drop from original audio folder to new project, nope, same name. Then tried re-naming from within Cakewalk, nope, error message. Then tried bounce to track but new export dialogue just copies the name and adds bounced to it. No option to name. But scratching my head, and not to be defeated, I figured this out. The hardest part is prepairing the original audio for transfer to the new project. First prepare the audio in original by bouncing any audio tracks that are in fragments to create all continuious tracks that start at Zero. You can replace the original fragmented tracks by deleting all the clips and drag the bounced continuious version to the original location to maintain routing and effects etc. Perform the "save as" to create a whole new project folder and check copy audio box. In Explorer open the original projects audio folder and now re name the files any way you want. This version of the project will now be junked. f you don't want to loose the original project you will need to make a safty copy too. If it was just a Template then no loss. Now open the new project and open the old projects audio folder in the browser, Delete the audio with wrong name and replace with the new re named versions by dragging them from the browser. If you want you can now perform another save as to get rid of the wrong named files. Delete all the left behind stuff once your dead sure it's all working.

I understand exactly what you’re saying. This is it, To find orphaned tracks later on it’s nice if they use the correct project title. This is why it’s important to name a project before you record new material. It’s also important to name the track clearly too. It often happens when you start with templates. You end up with “ no name” audio files until you save the project. And naming a track After you record it doesn’t change the files name. So this is a good question- How do you safely change the name of audio files to match the new project? I’ll have to try this later today, but I’m guessing you might have to delete the audio and drag it to the new project? Im pretty sure re naming in Explorer won’t work.