aidan o driscoll

Stepic €39

Melody Sauce 2 €59

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2 minutes ago, cclarry said:

Minimum Spend is $200

Aha - I missed that bit in the email

Anything in play series or expansions worth a look with $/€20 off I assume ( bringing most to about $€5 )

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/catalog/summer-of-sound-2023/play-series/

13 hours ago, Bapu said:

Macca says "The Beatles" will release a final song that was a demo from the Let It Be sesions where they got a "pristine Lennon vocal" and some George work done too.

I recall Peter Jackson saying that they used a tool they developed to reduce the guitars plucking during a convo between George and John and some background noise in the canteen with the lads having a deep conversation.

Your opinion? Is really AI or is it just more sophisticated filtering/EQ/Compression tools not yet available to us mere mortals? I'm reminded of tools like Moises (albeit maybe more primitive based on Jackson's description) where  you can extract vocal, drums, bas and "all other instruments" from a stereo recording.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/jun/13/ai-used-to-create-new-and-final-beatles-song-says-paul-mccartney

The idea to use AI to reconstruct the demo came from Peter Jackson’s eight-hour epic, Get Back. For the documentary, dialogue editor Emile de la Rey used custom-made AI to recognise the Beatles’ voices and separate them from background noise.

A bit more here

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/06/ai-powered-final-beatles-song-due-this-year-says-paul-mccartney/

During the making of the 2021 Get Back documentary, composer Emile de la Rey and a team of engineers at Peter Jackson's Wingnut Films worked with machine learning researcher Paris Smaragdis of the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign to develop a neural network called "MAL" (Machine Assisted Learning, also a nod to Beatles roadie Mal Evans) to isolate voices and musical instruments in Beatles recordings. Similar vocal isolation allowed McCartney to virtually duet with Lennon on a recent tour.

Traditionally, when multiple voices and instruments are recorded together on the same tape, it's difficult or impossible to isolate them without significantly losing sound quality or picking up frequencies from other instruments present in the recording. With the new technology, machine learning techniques allowed MAL to identify and pluck out individual audio elements, re-synthesizing them in a realistic way that matched trained samples of those instruments or voices in isolation. This allowed for boosting voices in noisy situations and also enabled surround sound remixes of the performances in the film.

But yes I get your point @Bapu .. we say every "new" thing like this to be AI when in fact it is not necessarily so

23 minutes ago, aidan o driscoll said:

From last Humble Bundle with VEGAS in it .. I am on Vegas Pro 18

I dont do much in the way of video editing. Main reasons why I keep it relatively up to date is the HUMBLE BUNDLE price is a no brainer AND right back to when Soundforge released vegas I was using it as an audio DAW mixing and recording WAV tracks. I still have projects since back then and they open in Vegas Pro 18 no problem still 

37 minutes ago, aidan o driscoll said:

I imagine this ( Vegas 2 Edit ) may turn up in HUMBLE BUNDLE in a short while for about $25 along with other audio apps

From last Humble Bundle with VEGAS in it .. I am on Vegas Pro 18

I imagine this ( Vegas 2 Edit ) may turn up in HUMBLE BUNDLE in a short while for about $25 along with other audio apps

Spotted this on TWITTER .. Not a deal, well actually sort of because its all FREE

This isn't just any old freeware round-up. We’re ditching the classics, going for quality over quantity and looking at some of the newest and most exciting free plugins around

https://www.musicradar.com/news/build-music-studio-free-plugins

Its a pretty extensive article, might show up some FREE plugins you dont have already that could be of interest

I have tinnitus since about start of 2020. A few High pitched thin whistles, mostly not too loud. Years of lod music on stage since 80s probably .. stopped playing live in 2010.

1 hour ago, swijaya said:

I went to https://www.cakewalk.com/ & looked at the bottom of the page. There are 4 social-medias listed & I checked each one out. Only Facebook has recent (less than a month old) activities (comments), and out of the 33 comments there, only a few mentioned dissatisfaction.

Where is this list?

Go search for CAKEWALK groups and pages on Facebook for example. I cannot remember which one of these groups it was in BUT post had started asking the Q what alternatives etc

Anyway, over at Creative Sauce group .. a post:

 

23 hours ago, aidan o driscoll said:

So NEXT appears to be an all new shiny ground up Cakewalk with possibly AI and it is cross platform for MAC. 

https://www.cakewalk.com/next

SONAR then appears to be "more traditional"? Following on from current CW? 

https://www.cakewalk.com/sonar

Watching the Soc Media / Facebook reaction to this. People losing the run of themselves, already forming lists of whats the next best DAW to jump ship to.

I dont get it bar maybe a learned memory of the Gibson debacle but this is completely different and not a crisis. I think there is just a bit too much unnecessary hysteria around this.

I also think in general that expectation of FREE is a disease that is across much in our society now. Its also a bad habit. Back when bandlab took over CW I was expecting to pay for it and was sort of hoping thats the direction CW would go in. OK, when it did go free I did not complain but did have unsettling feeling that here we go again .. the FREE/Expectation thing. In my view FREE has wrecked  much, its created a mindset where something no longer is valued or has value. Again in my view this is what wrecked MUSIC starting with the FREE music from NAPSTER back in the 90s, created a thing now that Music, bands etc no longer valued really. Add the proliferation of covers acts in the naughties plus many venues in 90s on FREE entry to gigs   

3 hours ago, aidan o driscoll said:

 

@bitflipper I find the real interesting point is the cross platform aspect of NEXT ( PC and MAC ) but no cross platform for SONAR. This suggests surely that NEXT is being written fresh from the ground up vs SONAR continuing with the existing code base?

This then asks the Q why are they persisiting with windows only SONAR? Maybe its to have a solid well tested DAW available while eventually developing NEXT to the point that SONAR will get dropped?   

"Next is a completely new DAW designed from the ground up by us over the last five years. It was developed to be cross platform and works equally well on Mac and PC with full AU and VST support.

The focus so far has been on creation centric features as opposed to the more production centric features that Sonar has.
For example, it has very intuitive lyrics entry and song arrangements, a built in sampler and pad controller which is quite powerful, allowing you to set up sampler or instrument pads. 

While Next might look visually similar to the online web based BandLab Studio that's only because we followed branding guidelines. It has full integration with the BandLab ecosystem with integrated browsing of BandLab loops as well as upload and download to the BandLab library. The product itself is quite deep and includes many of the bells and whistles Cakewalk users have come to expect, like multiprocessor support, background plugin scanning and flexible routing. Routing is very simplified and elegant in Next and can all be done via track folders (unlike Sonar). There are many more exciting features coming in future roadmaps. I'm sure in the upcoming weeks Jesse will post more information about Next.

In the interim, interested users are welcome to request beta access if you want hands-on experience with the application."

6 hours ago, aidan o driscoll said:

So NEXT appears to be an all new shiny ground up Cakewalk with possibly AI and it is cross platform for MAC. 

https://www.cakewalk.com/next

SONAR then appears to be "more traditional"? Following on from current CW? 

https://www.cakewalk.com/sonar

2 hours ago, bitflipper said:

That's a pretty good summation. 

This is pure speculation, but I can imagine Next far exceeding Sonar in the size of its user base and the two products having a similar relationship as Cubase is to Nuendo. It will be a long while before Next has a comparable breadth and depth of features to Sonar, but over the next couple years it'll cover more and more of the same bases. By then it will have become a viable alternative to Sonar for the majority of music creators who have no interest in becoming audio engineers, at a lower price point and gentler learning curve for new users. 

 

@bitflipper I find the real interesting point is the cross platform aspect of NEXT ( PC and MAC ) but no cross platform for SONAR. This suggests surely that NEXT is being written fresh from the ground up vs SONAR continuing with the existing code base?

This then asks the Q why are they persisiting with windows only SONAR? Maybe its to have a solid well tested DAW available while eventually developing NEXT to the point that SONAR will get dropped?   

So NEXT appears to be an all new shiny ground up Cakewalk with possibly AI and it is cross platform for MAC. 

https://www.cakewalk.com/next

SONAR then appears to be "more traditional"? Following on from current CW? 

https://www.cakewalk.com/sonar

Mike of Creative Sauce on this matter
 

2 hours ago, dubdisciple said:

I miss sonic foundry. Sony did ok, but sonic foundry had that small developer pride and hunger.

In the land of 3D Software MODO was like that with fantastic closeness tween then CEO Brad Peebler and the community but then they sold out to THE FOUNDRY .. never the same

6 hours ago, bluzdog said:

FYI: At the bottom of the new website there is a link to the Sonar Legacy website. Under support you can login in to your old account and access your legacy products.

You could always acess the download for  Cakewalk Command centre app

https://legacy.cakewalk.com/Command-Center

Download, install and login, all software there to install from that on your system

Cakewalk Sonar again .. Im one of those with the orig Lifetime Updates plan  ...

First thought on the pricing thing .. It HAS TO BE a subscription. Why?  Well, its now the go to pricing structure across most software I imagine. This for the same reasons as was back in heady days of Sonar with gibson - the model of selling upgrade once every few years is well broken. A monthly sub makes sense as its a far better guaranteed REGULAR revenue flow into a biz so it can continue. And as was promised then, the trade off is you get a very regular Sonar update with bug fixes and new features.

It makes sense to charge for what is a very good piece of creative software. Still think they should look at making it cross platform to Mac even Linux

The Great Catspy - AI text-to-video Movie Trailer

Another interesting video on this subject.

I like what he said here - "The future we are heading towards is a future of ideas not one of skills"

So check this out and then afterwards ( jokes aside ) ask yourself where are we going with this .. Where will WE be in all of this, where will our creative input be beyond a few directions from keywords we add

Davy Spillane is your man for Uilleann Pipes

Also look up the Irish Trad Super Group called MOVING HEARTS which Spillane also played pipes and flute with
 

In my case we have a Plasma Panasonic HD 42" 3D TV .. best buy ever at the time, about 10 years ago i would say. Quality of picture still great, no noticeable difference from day one.  Black Blacks, Grey Greys and smooth picture where sport is concerned and a ball in flight which I think is why many pubs had/have plasmas. At the time this was the TV of choice for Panasonic Engineers apparently

"But in terms of overall picture quality, it simply leaves the competition in the dust and justifies the premium over Panasonic's own, cheaper ST50.

This is largely down to its black levels, but it's also thanks to excellent contrast performance, smooth motion handling and gorgeous colour reproduction. "

https://www.cnet.com/reviews/panasonic-tx-p42gt50b-review/

So its on this we watch Netflix at HD 1080 ( €14.99 pm ). Just curious is that still worth it vs the €8.99 NF HD 720. Would one notice much difference?

50 minutes ago, Wibbles said:

The more pertinent question is "Is €6 a month noticeable to you"? 

You might say that when I am paying out €200pm on various subs. I suppose it all counts because we are also looking at the sky sub and whether its worth it vs our FTA/FREEVIEW. I have dumped spotify already, just was not using it much. So if sky goes also and NF reduced, thats €48 a month less.

Its something i notice happens - Subs just get left there and never looked at for many. A client of mine said he found 8 subs for various software etc that he was no longer using and still paying for .. for years. It seems many people dont bother looking at there statements