Mark Morgon-Shaw

I use Track Folders all the time but I noticed that there seemed to be some weird glitch with them recently

Folders not responding to the + or - button  and tracks that were in folders appearing that they were outside the folder

I was trying various things to stop it happening as I had work to do and a deadline tomorrow, when I found it was something to do with the Lens I was using.

I'd flipped to my own Lens at some point toward the end of the project and when I switched back to "None" the weird folder behaviour returned to normal.

I am still using an i5 2500 and only switched from 8.5 when CBB was launched. Think I can still go a couple more years, definitely got good value from Intel.

I've made just over 90 pieces of music since CBB came out ( for TV Libraries ),  having an older processor doesn't really slow me down. Some track freezing here and there, maxing out my latency during mixdown all help.  I'll probably go for an i7 when I do eventually upgrade. 

18 hours ago, InstrEd said:

I still wouldn't mind being able to shift the tabs around myself. 

Me too ! I just want things how I want them 😎

Hopefully it would not be a massive issue to make them movable , after all it's something we are used to being able to do in other software like Web Browser that we use daily

4 hours ago, msmcleod said:

FWIW I use screensets to give me this sort of functionality.

So for example, screenset 2 only has the Console View in the multidock, whereas screenset 3 has PRV and Event List.

I think this is actually quicker than having to manually arrange the tabs to what you want, as you just press 2 for screenset 2, 3 for screenset 3 etc.

 

Yes but they are still locked to a certain order even so

On 4/24/2019 at 2:39 AM, fogle622 said:

How would moving tabs  benefit workflow or daw operation?

Because when you have a lot of things docked it's easier to find the tab you want if they are within the first 1 or 2  

This can change throughout the production process.

So when I am in the initial writing stage I may want to use my PRV and Matrix view the most.

Later on when  the track is written and I'm mixing I want the Console  view and Browser to be my main pair...If you write a lot of music these little things add up to a lot of time over a year.

On 4/19/2019 at 4:02 PM, Mike Balzarini said:

Hey @CosmicDolphin and @petemus- you guys both mentioned having a problem with stopping playback. 

Cosmic- are you using an audio interface? If so, which model?

Pete- I see you're using a gen1 2i2. Your input echo trick sounds like  quite the workaround! Glad you have something while we figure this out. 

Let's try to connect the dots here. If we can point to an OS, device, even a certain number of tracks or certain plugins used when this starts happening we can start making progress. One of my test machines is a relatively low spec Win10 i7 ThinkPad. I've typically only run up to around 40 tracks at a time and up to 50 plugins per project, but I've never had this particular issue. Of course, it exists because we have your cases to tell us it does, but let's dig in and find out where you all are on the same page, other than the problem itself. 

Hi Mike

I have a Focusrite Pro24 DSP running on Win 7 Pro , Core i5 with 16gb ram

I'll have to make a note next time it happens, I make around 100 tracks per year so it's hard to remember.  I am fairly sure it also happened with 8.5 which I used since it came out until CBB came along.

So when it happens, you press play and everything sounds fine but the stop button remains greyed out and can't be pressed. 

I have experienced the same bug where the stop button greys out and you can't stop the transport either with the mouse or by pressing the space bar..it just keeps on playing regardless. Like he said in the video you have to save the file and then quit and re-open to get it back to normal.

On 4/6/2019 at 9:31 PM, abacab said:

That is possible when you are talking about live MIDI controller input, since that could potentially end up in any track via omni if you are not careful. But playing back MIDI data shouldn't cause this behavior.

I've had it happen where two instances of Kontakt are playing the same thing even though only one of the instrument tracks contains midi data. 

Try right clicking the freeze button and check the freeze options, I have some VSTi's that don't freeze unless I untick fast bounce. No idea why.

Sounds like you might have the midi input set to Omni in Kontakt..so it's picking up other midi tracks

11 hours ago, Mariano Germán Flores said:

My personal opinion is no, but at the same time I think Cakewalk GUI needs a drastical reduction of lots of "death" spaces (for instance, the windows borders are excessively wide). This is not for estetical matters, but because it is almost imposible to work confortable with Cakewalk in a 14" screen laptop.

I fully agree and it relates to this post from January as well but  I still have to open Sonar 8.5 occasionally and it's surprising how much more compact it is . More tracks, faders, busses fit on my screens and yet everything is clearer to my eyes.  Modern GUI design seems to be very 'flat'..muted colours and not much sense of 'depth'... whereas they use to be a little more photorealistic in the past which is easier to work with IMHO. I think I remember reading somewhere years ago the reason everything was more spread out is it allowed for better touch screen use. 

If they were going to overhaul it some sort of scaleable vector based GUI would enable losless resizing of things such as the faders mentioned in the post below  

16 hours ago, C. A. Hamman said:

Will Cakewalk (BandLab) in the future support DAW automation with Native Instruments NKS keyboards and the like; they appear to support other DAWs already was hoping this would include Cakewalk in the near future? Any thoughts votes?

Yeah this would be great, so many people using Kontakt these days 

8.5 was great !  I only stopped using it ( semi professionally ) when CBB was launched

Lol, how many do you need to sell to make back your investment ?

22 hours ago, sjoens said:

… right-click menu of Track View? Seems an oversight and would be so handy.

I think they expect the Browser drag / drop to be the way now..but yes it would be easy to add to the menu

20 hours ago, Misha said:

CosmicDolphin, can you please explain what you mean by:

"need something fast and deeply integrated" ... How is Kontakt or Halion VST's are less integrated or "not fast".  Sorry if I sound silly, I am a learner and always hungry for new info.

 

What @abacab said !

Other platforms are much faster in terms of workflow for producers of Hip Hop & EDM etc because they have integrated samplers that just " work " right out the gate for what they need.

 I won't repeat myself..here is a link to my previous request which pre-dates this thread https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/1148-seamless-deeply-intergrated-sampler/&tab=comments#comment-8767

In addition to my request for Nested Folders can I also ask that we have the ability to Export By Folder

In the world of making music for TV & Film Libraries more and more of them are wanting stems.  The easiest way to organise stems is by Folder ( not busses ) so the ability to Export them would be a huge time saver   

On 3/29/2019 at 1:44 AM, Misha said:

but I think 3d party stuff will always be better,  just because developers of that soft been working on things for some time now. What about Halion or Kontakt? They do have samplers that can do pretty complex stuff. 

 

Not the same thing ..need something fast and deeply integrated

10 hours ago, msmcleod said:

 Maybe it could be called "Commit clip edits" or something similar to avoid confusion.

"Clip freeze" 

Never had a sidechain related crash and I use them in almost every project.

Most often using Fabfilter plugins

When you Ripple Edit a selection in the track view , whilst dragging your clip(s) the whole track appears to move and not only the selected part..once you let go of the mouse button it corrects itself but visually it's confusing as it looks like you are moving a whole bunch of stuff that you're not.

Great machines and built like tanks, why they went the route they did with the trashcan design is a mystery to me.

Probably a better bet to build a hackingtosh nowadays

+ 100 !!!

You are coming from the wrong angle with your list. What you should be asking is not where music is used but where these places source it from.

The answer to the more popular uses of TV , film , advertising, video games, retail streaming etc. is they license it from Music Libraries.  Shows like the Kardashians or Catfish will use around 90 snippets of different music tracks mostly written by people in home studios like us.

Anyone can audition for a music library but the standards are high to get accepted. You mostly have to make the music for free with the promise of royalties from any placements you may get down the line.

56 minutes ago, Jesse Jost said:

Low hanging fruit 😉 enjoy

It works great..next question...can you add an octave lock button to go with it as well as it keeps reverting to 3 on each preset