Johnbee58

9 hours ago, InstrEd said:

 Heck you will still be able to use your CbB

Yes, but for how long after the change is made?

I do intend to move to something new in the future.  Maybe Cakewalk, maybe not.  I DO have Reason 12 which I upgraded from 7 last year but it doesn't have Auto Punch in/Out so I rarely use that.  Had I known it didn't have that very important feature I would not have upgraded.  But too late for that now.

John B

1 hour ago, InstrEd said:

Someone from the Cakewalk staff and I believe a Beta tester said that their older processor was running just fine. I wouldn't worry to much about it.  

Found this from Noel

 

Thanks @InstrEd.  I also read somewhere on that thread that they will offer a short trial period so I will be able to see how it really works for me before I lay my non refundable money down.  I've been checking out FL Studio 20 and Prosonus Studio One for possible alternatives.  I'm really hoping Cakewalk will work for me (price and performance wise) because I really don't want another learning curve.  It took me 9 years to learn what I know so far about Cakewalk and I still don't know everything but I know enough to do what I do with it.

🙂John B

I just looked at the tech requirements for the upcoming Cakewalk Sonar (& Next).  They both require  (or suggest) an 8 Core CPU.  My sig below tells of my current system as an i5 11400 2.60@ GHz 2.59GHz. (Windows 10). I recently doubled my RAM from 16 gigs to 32.  I'm not overly versed on these variables but is this telling me that I have sufficient computing power to run Cakewalk Sonar (the new one) or not?

If not, I may be forced to change DAWs whether I want to or not.  My PC is only 2 years old and I will not buy a new one.

Thanks

John B

@noynekker, @bjornpdx & @Supa Reels

Thanks for your interest.  I pulled the song.

😀John B.

On 6/20/2023 at 4:12 AM, FreeEarCandy said:

Kind of reminds me of Selling England By The Pound-Genesis.  Good work, John. Yeah! The piano sounds real good. If you have Dimension Pro there is a really nice flute in the library called "Flute in the venue". I used it in a lot of my tunes. May work well in this one. Also check out the saxes in the library.  Overall, very good composition and performance.

@FreeEarCandyThanks for listening, FEC!

🙂John B

16 hours ago, Wookiee said:

Thanks John, I am sorry that I am not having the time to listen to all as much as I would like.

Perhaps it will resolve soon, there is just so much c r a p to deal with when one has to jump through the hoops of bureaucracy involved in ensuring another person, who is no longer capable, is being treated fairly, that financial maters are safe and not subject to any exploitation. 

There is a little something else baking but it has been a little to warm in the studio for much time, my lovely dog is still getting used to being left alone even though she could lay safely in the studio with me. She lays just outside the door. 

I know what you mean.  I'm going through some financial trials myself right now.  Takes the fun out of life sometimes.  Hopefully will be settled soon.

😀John B

On 6/14/2023 at 9:04 AM, Bajan Blue said:

Hi John

A good track with some excellent playing, especially the Piano.

Flute sounded OK to me.

Cool

Nigel

 

@Bajan BlueThanks so much, Nigel.

😀John B

22 minutes ago, Larioso said:

Is there a good reason to use retailers these days, just bring up MRSP quite a bit, and limit how they can sell not to make retailers mad?

 

I am concerned Cakewalk succeed on it's own merits.

Roland did not think it was a good enough business, and Gibson neither.

 

I'm just stumped over some reactions on internet over this new Sonar as paid version. People has countless gear listed in their signature - but NO THE DAW MUST BE FREE!

- what other free daws are there to swap to?

 

Strange priorities some have IMO. Disrespectful even....

 

I remember some poll at Cockos forum about Reaper if they should drop eternal free trial

- as I recall over 80% said no

- my conclusion, vast majority never paid for Reaper

 

Long ago I had some monitors for sale and a prospect buyer were insisting on discount on price

- if it was from $115 to $100 or something

- and signature from email said "sent from my iPhone"

 

He had an iPhone and still was gready enough, that was his priority, the most exclusive smartphone at the time.

You obviously weren't around when most of the guys here paid $500.00 for Sonar Platinum before 2018.  Yes, some got a freebie over the years but I can assure you most on this thread "paid their dues" and have the right to post their equipment on their sigs.

🙂John B

2 hours ago, daryl1968 said:

Vocal sounds great on this one John. Mix is spot on

@daryl1968Thank you so much, Daryl!

😀John B

Last night I went onto the Sweetwater site to buy a T-Shirt.  Five minutes after I hit the "purchase" button I got a call from Mark Bruhn, who is the sales engineer I usually deal with to thank me for my purchase and how it will be coming.  I said to him "Did you hear the latest about Cakewalk?"  He said he did not.  I said "It looks like you guys will be selling Cakewalk again at some time in the future.  They're going from free to a pay model again."  He said, "Well, if they make a deal with us and it's acceptable I guess we will".

🙂John B

26 minutes ago, Grebz said:

What about the track icons in the upcoming Sonar? As the UI will be vector-based, will we still be able to use our own custom images as track icons, or will we be limited to a default selection?
If the possibility still exists, will the custom icons need to be in BMP format, as of now, or will it accept resizable vector formats? Or other bitmap formats such as jpg, png (for transparency)... ?

I think I heard from somewhere that there isn't going to be much choice in the UI at least initially.  I take that to mean there will be one non changeable UI.

🙂JB

2 minutes ago, Lord Tim said:

HAHA! Aren't forums great sometimes?

Yeah. They're a riot! The way I'll go as far as any plan is: if I  pay 2 3 or $400.00 for something the first year I'll expect to be able to use it to that point indefinitely without paying more.  If I want more the second year or beyond I will pay for it but I'd better be able to use forever what I  have at that point.

😀jb

4 minutes ago, Lord Tim said:

Just to be clear, I'm not knocking you at all for wanting to stay on a version, John  

I just think that there's a bit of confusion in general about how this model could work. People hear "subscription" and go "NO FREAKIN' WAY!!!!" and don't dig in any further, and that's fair too - most subscriptions are rubbish. I hate them too. But if they do use the Gibson model, I think it's probably the fairest way to do anything like this.

LT- I was typing as your last post came in.  You might want to check out my revisions.😀

9 minutes ago, Lord Tim said:

OK, that's fair

But let me ask you this, did you get any updates past X3? Like, did you get any of the stuff that came in with SONAR Platinum?

This is no different to buying Sonar 2024 outright for that year (and getting those 12 months of updates) and staying on it. Then in 2027 you think "you know, that new feature actually looks pretty good, I'll grab that!" and you buy Sonar 2027 and associated updates.  It's pretty much exactly what you did with X3.

Let's put it this way.  I'll never say never.  If I  see something I want and it's affordable for me  I'll consider buying it.  If the following year offers something I want I'll probably upgrade but a monthly sub is out of the question entirely for me.

😀

Oh, answering you first question: No, I  never got anything past x3. When the CbB freebie came out I didn't want to upgrade because I  thought there would eventually be a catch to it so I used the extra things that came with it very cautiously.  Now I'm glad I  did. 

44 minutes ago, Lord Tim said:

Would you, however, pay for a new version every year, like we used to do back before any talk of memberships or subscriptions?

I didn't pay for a new version every year.  I  bought x3 studio in 2014 and stayed with that until CbB was offered. I'll pay a fair price to do what I have been doing.  I don't need a lot of fancy bells and whistles.  I have and use most of my own plugins.  I don't use any of the Cakewalk instruments.  Not knocking them.  I just have no need for them.  I  made do with what I  had and did without what I couldn't afford because I didn't have a ton of money to spend.  I  still don't.

😀JOHN B

@jack c.Thanks for your feedback, Jack.

😀John B 

Let this be a lesson to all.  Gibson screwed all of you who bought into the "Lifetime License" lie.  What should you learn from that?  How about don't trust anybody who takes your money promising you anything "free for a lifetime".  Now you must hope that out of the goodness of their hearts Bandlab will compensate you for that.  They don't have to because you made that deal with the Gibson crooks.  They took your money and ran.  Something always smelled fishy to me with that deal. Glad I didn't fall for it.

😀John B

There's only one thing I have to say on this.  I will NOT pay MONTHLY to do the same thing I've been doing all these years I've been using Cakewalk (Sonar X3 or by Bandlab).  It has to be one price and done or it's quittin' time for me.

Nuff said.

😀John B

You are a very skilled guitarist.  Long but holds interest with all of the different sounds going on.

🙂John B

I just had to revisit this again.  It's like I can't stop listening to this.  It's like the protagonist is singing about voices in his head in between a nightmarish maze of disturbing sight and sound.  He can no longer control himself and goes out and commits a horrific crime.  Kinda like a Hitchcock type theme.  No.  I just figured it out.  It's the hairy Wookie beast striking on a full moon. Fascinating composition, seriously.

😀John B

I like this "mellow" sound of JackC.  I don't think I heard you do a ballad before.

Your voice is your voice. 

😀John B

Nice.  You are going to expand this, aren't you? (please).

😀John B

2 hours ago, KSband said:

Great song John, very good piano playing too. Only crit is I would stick with the flute, it sounds so realistic, the sax doesn't.

@KSbandThanks for listening and your feedback.  I'm sorry I have to most respectfully disagree with you.  As both an alto and tenor sax player of many years, the alto does sound real to my ears.  I think it's the flute that falls a bit short on this song.🙂  I still have my horn but can't play it now because of my asthma.

😀John B

The Fizzy Pics do a cover?!  Wow!

I like covers when they are different from the originals  You've made this your own.  Nice!

😀John B

Cakewalk Next or Cakewalk Sonar?  Which will I get...........?🤨

Anyway, in the meantime here's a brand new creation.  It features yet another Straight Ahead Samples product: the alto saxophone (solo) and a comeback by the flute.

Hope you enjoy.

https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=14610237

😀John B