Johnbee58

It seems that all the secrecy is showing at least some of us that this company is no more trustworthy than Waves.  

? John B

Please forgive me if I missed this discussion before but I'm wondering if both Next and  Sonar can be chosen with a Bandlab membership or just one or the other.  I've been a member since April 2024 and am using Sonar because it seems closest to CbB.  I understand that Next is something very different and don't know if I want to bother with it. 

?John B

3 hours ago, Bristol_Jonesey said:

Jeeeeezus!

Full price at my place is £12 (GBP)

I get it done for £9

You're so right!  Next time back to my OLD barber.  He only gets $25.00 and that includes the tip.

?JB

EDIT-As far as a Senior discount for a DAW?!  I don't see it happening.

12 minutes ago, Bristol_Jonesey said:

I'll be 70 in Augst and the only discount I get is at the local Turkish barber for when I get my rapidly dwindling mane tamed.

This won't be forever ?

I paid $40.00 for a haircut last month at one of those classy men's salons.  And that was for a "buzz cut"!?

Senior citizen discounts hardly exist anymore.  I'll be 69 in July which means I've been a senior for a few years.  The only SC discount I've seen yet is at a local "mom & pop" restaurant for lunch.

?John B

1 hour ago, Misha said:

Bottom line is this. I am willing to wait another 6 months or even another year if I know for a fact that new Sonar will be available as non-subscription within that time period. If they are still unsure, this should be stated in some kind of "nice" words that make sense, so people can plan ahead . "Coming soon" is not it. 

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????  I hope they're listening!

1 hour ago, Misha said:

P.S. If you leave the Cake in the oven for too long,  it will not be edible and people will Walk out.

I love that! ?

23 minutes ago, Steve Moddelmog said:

Well, X3 is activated with a serial number and as near as I can tell does not require servers anywhere to activate.  And since they recently updated the old Command Center, it seems like the intent is to continue to allow people to activate SPLAT and other software they bought from the old entities.

I was thinking that too, but my fear with that is with Windows constantly updating and creating new operating systems it will eventually get to a point where a new OS will no longer support it.

?JB

3 hours ago, Steve Moddelmog said:

One more thing... if they ARE planning to offer a one-time purchase option, why don't they simply say so?  They are the ones that put the question on their website. They fact that they don't simply answer their own question "We plan to offer a one-time purchase option in the (near) future" makes me think they aren't planning to do so.

They did say as much last year when they mentioned that several price points will be made available for different needs.  The initial thread that Jesse Jost posted had some excellent information on the subject but was unfortunately locked because some people on this forum can't act like adults.  It's still available to read.  Go back and have a look. ?

?John B

We're almost at the 1 year mark since we were told that we would have to start paying for the DAW.  I'm assuming that CbB is still available for free to new users for download.  Also, I'm sure they know that probably most of us don't like subscriptions especially after the big blowout with the Waves situation last year.  I'm hoping the wait is just to finalize loose ends and the perpetual licenses will materialize soon.  I only started the membership to see how the new  Sonar works.  I'm only going to wait so long before I start shopping around.

? John B

1 hour ago, RexRed said:

Where is the new Cakewalk Sonar?

I don't want a beta, and I don't want to sign up for other websites. I just want a page fully dedicated to subscribing to or buying the new Sonar...

Please keep me informed.

Thx ?

Uh, do you know you can have it right now through Backstage Pass by joining Bandlab for $15.00 USD per month?  It's an early access release which you can use fully until the prices for the perpetual licenses are established.  There are other perks in the Bandlab membership as well.  Just letting you know.  I've had it since April.

?John B

I think we have to be patient.  The developers are probably working on improving the functionality of the DAW so they can finally set their price ranges.  The look of the interface is the least important factor and can be improved over time.

That being said, I do like the look of CbB better mainly because the knobs and pots look more dimensional.  Someone early on compared it to the look of Ableton and I think I know where they're coming from although I don't think it's quite that crude, but I would rather see more improvement in the functionality (new features, etc) and let nature take its course with everything else (like graphics).

Patience, people. ?

?John B

4 hours ago, David Baay said:

Those are Project Preview files that can be played from the Start Screen without opening the project. They will survive Clean Audio, but can be deleted manually without causing any missing audio warning on re-launching the project. Sonar automatically creates them when you export to file and if you export something other than the Master bus or Entire Mix, the preview will reflect that. So far as I know you cannot currently disable this function globally, but there is a checkbox in the export dialog to disable it and I believe that will choice will persist on a per-project basis. 

I'm hoping/expecting that eventually there will be more control over this feature, including the ability to limit the length of preview files to conserve space.

@David BaayThanks Dave!  I've seen that preview in the Start menu, so it makes sense now.  When you hold the mouse over it it will play without opening the project.  I can see it being useful in some way but it would be handy if they create, as you say, a way to limit it before final storage.

?John B

@sjoens & @Noel Borthwick

Thank you both for your information.

I found it.  It's in the Utilities menu.?

?John B

1 hour ago, sjoens said:

Most every audio file generated by a project remains in the folder.  When they're edited, bounced or changed, a new file is created in the folder along side the original that's no longer used in the project.  This means destructive editing isn't really destructive and you can save yourself when a mistake happens by reinserting the file into the project.

When you Save-As to another location, the files no longer used in the project are not transferred.  This helps consolidate the final project.

@sjoensThanks so much for your explanation. ?  Now I must ask you if there s anyway to turn that feature off.  While I appreciate the Bakers building that into the program my workflow for years has always included a way to accomplish this kind of a "safety" myself.  To me this is just creating more files than I need.  Or is there a simple way to know how to delete these "extra" files when the project is complete?

Thanks

?John B

I've been using Sonar via the early access Backstage Pass program since April.  So far I'm not real impressed especially with the user interface but I  realize there are many changes promised in the works so I'm not really expecting too much right now.  I'm looking forward to better things ahead. ?

I've been taking notice that Sonar has been creating extra files, sometimes even extra audio folders.  These files have long and vague titles consisting mostly of lowercase letters and numbers.  They are audio WAV files and seem to be copies of what I render from the project.

Is this supposed to be happening and is there anything I can check or uncheck in Preferences to make this stop?  I don't want to be wasting more storage space than necessary.

It never happened in CbB.

Thanks

?John B

40 minutes ago, DeeringAmps said:

So why the question...

Just trying to be a nice guy and helpful.

Forget I said anything.  

Next time I'm feeling helpful I'll do something else.

JB?

Maybe this has been discussed before but to all the people who were ripped off by Gibson when they sold out in 2017 and screwed some of you out of the $500.00 you paid for "Lifetime" upgrades/dates or whatever. 

Did you ever consider a class action lawsuit against Gibson?  They were the ones who "took your money and ran".  I'm not a attorney but I know that many product issues like this were settled in class action suits.  Maybe some of you can find a lawyer you can at least ask. 

I'm not involved so I really don't care.  Just a suggestion for those who were.  If you haven't considered it yet maybe something to think about.  Gibson must have made a considerable amount of money from that scam.

?John B

Oh!  OK.  Thanks alot!

?John B

Not a music question but a forum one.

What do the stars and bullets at the titles of the threads mean?

Just wondering.

?John B

I forgot to mention thanks to @KSband for the heart like.

?John B

I hope everybody on this forum can forgive me for the way I started my earlier thread on how we will be informed about the new products.  I was wrong to gravitate to that level.

Peace to all

?John B

Yeah.  I'm willing.  Let's keep it friendly.  I shouldn't have made it the way I  did.  I apologize to all.  I shouldn't have stooped to "their level".

?John B

5 minutes ago, Jacques Boileau said:

Am I wrong to just believe that the bakers will simply post on this forum when it is available and give us all the details on how to install it? I just don't need to worry anymore than read this forum like I always do and I am confident I will be informed.

Noel and others have always communicated effectively through this forum when new stuff is available.

I'm sure they will.  Just wanted know HOW.

?JB

I wish I could feel that is wasn't either. AsI said, I was protecting myself.  See how much trouble one rude person can cause? And no, that 2019 issue wasn't resolved because John never apologized to me like a man would.  If he would care to apologize to me for misunderstanding my question that day I could be quite forgiving.  I would be glad to give the link as the thread is still there.

JB