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Exactly! The external plugin won´t let you use the second output. Indeed, a BIG waste of I/O. I have tried this and it "works", but it´s not only "inelegant" but really clumsy... It requires way too many steps more: sending to Aux a track, panning, patching, sending another track to same Aux, panning, patching, making sure gain staging works for both tracks on the same plugin, finally sending each return to their track, and now you´re using five tracks for every two hardware outputs, when it could be just the two. It gets messy quickly and it´s a workflow killer. With a mono able plugin, it would be just instantiating the plugin, patching, gain staging, done! No extra tracks and routing. It has been forever like this, so sadly it doesn´t work as a temporary workaround if it becomes a permanent workaround (with all the good intentions your suggestion comes). If you look around the web, you´ll find this plugin has not changed at all since it was released in 2007 (thirteen years ago!) with Sonar 7. I would think a proper temporary workaround would be to release a mono only version of the same exact plugin, while they work on the development of a proper implementation of this feature. I think it should be worthy of the developers attention. Really hope they´ll do something about it, as it is one of the things (have a couple more listed, but first things first!) that still makes CbB feel kind of stuck in it´s old ways.

Please fix and update the External Insert plugin behavior. As of now, and since it was released, it is forcing stereo outputs, and if you choose a mono output, it hijacks the second mono output of whatever pair you selected first. Even if you set interleave to mono, External Insert will remain in stereo. This is reducing the interface I/O capabilities to half. Even just making another identical but only mono plugin would be an acceptable solution. I made a post about this, with pretty pictures and all, but it has not received any feedback. Hope it gets sorted out.

Hi Is really no one from the development team going to even make a slight comment about this? Is it really going to keep being ignored? Even just making another identical but only mono plugin would be an acceptable solution. All other daws have implemented this in their workflow, so there is still a need for this kind of tool. Haven´t anyone thought that maybe the lack of this implementation is one of the reasons mixers aren´t using CbB for hybrid mixing, therefore having to use the more developed features of those other daws? Is there another way of requesting this other than this forum? Maybe a support email where to write directly to the developers with this request for fix? I have looked but couldn´t find it. Thanks.

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If you have multiple envelopes in the same clip, just doing it without changing focus to clip automation would result in dragging all envelopes present in said clip. So, I would think that amounts to confusing behavior. If you want to save the mouse trip over to the envelope selection menu, clicking on it to display the menu and then selecting automation-clip gain, you could just shift-click on the gain envelope so this will change focus to it (or any other envelope you shift-click on to), adjust, and then shift-click again on the clip itself to focus on it again. Its really fast and just a couple of clicks more with modifier. Hope this helps.

Hello I think the External Insert plugin is due for a much needed update to fix its behavior. As of now, and since it was released, it is forcing stereo outputs, and if you choose a mono output, it hijacks the second mono output of whatever pair you selected first. Even if you set interleave to mono, External Insert will remain in stereo. To test it, do the following: -Create an audio track, instantiate an External Insert plugin. -Set SEND of External Plugin to a mono output, lets say "Left USB Audio Analogue 3". -Set RETURN to a mono input, lets say "Left USB Audio Analogue 3". (pic 1) -Create a second audio track, instantiate a second External Insert Plugin. -Now, if you try to set the SEND to the second mono output "Right USB Audio Analogue 3", it just doesn´t show up, it just doesn´t exist. (pic 2) -Even more: now create a third track, and try to set it´s output to "Right USB Audio Analogue 3". Again, it doesn´t show up, as the External Insert just "ate up" the whole stereo pair. This is in fact reducing the interface I/O capabilities to half! And the sad thing, it has been like these for ever, it has never been updated since the feature was introduced at least since Sonar 7 (before the Sonar X days). It is sad too because Cakewalk was (as with so many things) one of the first daws to develop this feature, but it has been left behind. I have seen posts in the old forum about this that were never taken into account, never addressed by the developers with even a mild response. Not to mention the matter of not being able to solo buses with external insert, that also keeps getting mentioned now and again without response. Contemporary developers should take a look at how Reaper or StudioOne have implemented this. StudioOne´s implementation is closer to what CBB´s should be, in my opinion, and for shure it can be done better. Check these videos, one of them from 5 years ago!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_gweD57AQk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4dZwNSeZM4 Love Cakewalk, have been using it for more than twenty years, but this feature alone has had me thinking about moving to Reaper. It just can´t be taken seriously for hybrid mixing if my ten I/O interface is rendered half useless and can´t use all my hardware only because the daw´s archaic implementation of this feature. Please Bandlab folks, keep up the great work you have been doing, and take action to fix this long forgotten feature. I know I´m not the only one asking, as there are other posts about the subject. Thanks!