noynekker Posted September 30, 2022 Author Share Posted September 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, bitflipper said: What was the error code regsvr32 displayed? Assuming that you still care about getting VV going. Melodyne is, of course, far superior. Although one caveat applies to both of them: don't save a project mid-edit. The error code says "The module "C:\Program" failed to load, and "make sure the binary is stored at the specified path or debug it to check for problems with the binary or dependent .DLL files" "The specified module could not be found" I really only want VVocal to be able load up old projects, of which I have many, there are still remnants of it that never got rendered, I've always left things un-rendered, probably not the best way to leave projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Ah, yes, my bad. The pathname needs to be quoted because of the embedded blanks, e.g. "c:\program files..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Nicholls Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 22 hours ago, bitflipper said: Melodyne is, of course, far superior. I can't agree with that. Runs like a sloth in comparison, and although I admit I'm used to switching tools in VV (V, S mostly), I still don't think Melodyne is any easier to use. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Ergonomically speaking, I agree. V-V was very quick and easy to use. When I say Melodyne is superior, I am mainly referring to its relative lack of artifacts, even when the user does something dumb. V-V was never very forgiving if you didn't play by its rules. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 On 9/29/2022 at 11:32 PM, bitflipper said: Melodyne is, of course, far superior. There are some things you can do in V-vocal which are impossible on Melodyne, because Melodyne is scope limited. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilutiful Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Are there ways to get V-Vocal if you don't have the old Cakewalk (Cronus.dll) ? I really liked it and have wanted it back for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmp Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 scook really knows all about this and hopefully will chime in. If I recall it started in Sonar 8.5 and continues in several of the X versions. So if you have any of these versions you can install only the plugins you want instead of the whole program. If you used it in the past then you should be fine. You can also do a search for V-vocal in this forum we had a lengthy discussion and scook filled in some blanks for a lot of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Jonesey Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 VV was originally included with Sonar 5 I believe - I certainly used it in S6 If you want to use it you need to do a minimum install of the Sonar .exe It's not a regular plugin like a vst, it's part of the core program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michheld Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I have VVocal. I only installed X1 & 2 for the plugins, no exe. X3 & SPlat are fully installed tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikea Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Running CbB on an old W10 machine where I have X1 installed. V-vocal works perfectly in X1 but is nowhere to be found in CbB- not as a plugin or region FX. I tried reregistering the dlls but no joy. Anybody know what I'm missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noynekker Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, mikea said: Running CbB on an old W10 machine where I have X1 installed. V-vocal works perfectly in X1 but is nowhere to be found in CbB- not as a plugin or region FX. I tried reregistering the dlls but no joy. Anybody know what I'm missing? Make sure the "cronus.dll" is in the VST scan path / folder for CbB, in preferences, so it can find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, noynekker said: 27 minutes ago, mikea said: Running CbB on an old W10 machine where I have X1 installed. V-vocal works perfectly in X1 but is nowhere to be found in CbB- not as a plugin or region FX. I tried reregistering the dlls but no joy. Anybody know what I'm missing? Make sure the "cronus.dll" is in the VST scan path / folder for CbB, in preferences, so it can find it. V-Vocal is DX format. DX plug-ins bundled with Cakewalk products are automatically registered at install time. Do NOT add the path to the cronus.dll or any other DX format plug-ins to your VST scan path. Having the scanner search paths of non-VST dlls wastes time and can cause problems for the scanner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keni Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) Interesting... I just tried to load VV here... It crashes Cake every time. First time I've tried it on this machine. So it did get installed along with X1/2/3/Plat but the cronus.dll keeps crashing on win10. It was working fine on win8.1 <sigh>.... So far I must say I've been rather unhappy moving from 8.1 to 10... surprising with all the 8.1 bad talk... I was a hard core VV supporter until relatively recent time... It seems they each have their strengths and weaknesses but the more I've used Melodyne, the less I think about needing VV (obviously). Edit: I should add that I had to upgrade Melodyne to Studio before I felt this way along with a lot of hours editing! Edited May 8, 2023 by Keni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noynekker Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, scook said: V-Vocal is DX format. DX plug-ins bundled with Cakewalk products are automatically registered at install time. Do NOT add the path to the cronus.dll or any other DX format plug-ins to your VST scan path. Having the scanner search paths of non-VST dlls wastes time and can cause problems for the scanner. Hi scook . . . we always defer to your expertise, thanks for the DX correction, can you offer a solution for this most recent post here ? If he has X1 installed, shouldn't the CbB install migrate everything ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Probably, AFAIK nothing has changed since day 1 WRT how CbB handies legacy installs. I don't recall ever putting X1 on a Win10 machine. My last Win10 build started with a minimal install of X2 applying the X2a patch to get the last version of 64bit V-Vocal available a full install of X3 a full install of Platinum a full install of CbB And finished by adding some legacy plug-ins using the appropriate version of SONAR's advanced install option. Regarding CbB crashing, here are a couple of posts from Frequently Asked Questions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keni Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 10 hours ago, scook said: Probably, AFAIK nothing has changed since day 1 WRT how CbB handies legacy installs. I don't recall ever putting X1 on a Win10 machine. My last Win10 build started with a minimal install of X2 applying the X2a patch to get the last version of 64bit V-Vocal available a full install of X3 a full install of Platinum a full install of CbB And finished by adding some legacy plug-ins using the appropriate version of SONAR's advanced install option. Regarding CbB crashing, here are a couple of posts from Frequently Asked Questions That's a thought... I tried, but... I looked to see if there's an available X2a patch, but couldn't find so I would think with as much time as existed from X2 release to Cakewalk leaving Gibson's rule that they would have incorporated that into the available final/only X2 version available long ago? So I'm not sure why cronus.dll is crashing here, but that's ended my access to VV... (It is still working on my older DAW with win8.1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keni Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 10 hours ago, scook said: Probably, AFAIK nothing has changed since day 1 WRT how CbB handies legacy installs. I don't recall ever putting X1 on a Win10 machine. My last Win10 build started with a minimal install of X2 applying the X2a patch to get the last version of 64bit V-Vocal available a full install of X3 a full install of Platinum a full install of CbB And finished by adding some legacy plug-ins using the appropriate version of SONAR's advanced install option. Regarding CbB crashing, here are a couple of posts from Frequently Asked Questions Nice surprise! Thanks for the lead once again scook! I re-installed the re-distributable on the chance and voila! VV is once again working for me. A good secure feeling. Thanks for starting my day nicely again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 32 minutes ago, Keni said: I looked to see if there's an available X2a patch, but couldn't find so I would think with as much time as existed from X2 release to Cakewalk leaving Gibson's rule that they would have incorporated that into the available final/only X2 version available long ago? AFAIK, all the updates are still available on the old Cakewalk website through the knowledge base just like they have always been. The X2a update is definitely there and was never applied to the production X2 installer. Rolling updates were introduced after X3. IOW, ALL Cakewalk products without a CCC aware installers need to have ALL updates manually applied for the DAW and it's content to be at their most recent version. The most recent installers shown in the CCC are the latest fully patched installers for those products. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keni Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 57 minutes ago, scook said: AFAIK, all the updates are still available on the old Cakewalk website through the knowledge base just like they have always been. The X2a update is definitely there and was never applied to the production X2 installer. Rolling updates were introduced after X3. IOW, ALL Cakewalk products without a CCC aware installers need to have ALL updates manually applied for the DAW and it's content to be at their most recent version. The most recent installers shown in the CCC are the latest fully patched installers for those products. Thanks for all the excellent info... As always you are the best! I also want to thank you dor alerting me to the knowledge base in general. Now and earlier. I forget about it and simply search My Products for things.... I gotta make a note... somewhere... somehow! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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