SUPAREELS Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Thanks for your ears ./.. I'm sending my ear drums as well with them ......... Btw Love the mix mate ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garybrun Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, SupaReels said: Thanks for your ears ./.. I'm sending my ear drums as well with them ......... Btw Love the mix mate ? TURN IT DOWN!!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPAREELS Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 TURN IT DOWN!!! LOL Sorry .. didn't know you could hear it all the way from here in Westward Ho! ... turning it down now ...otherwise the wife will be calling me on the phone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I have to confess not my field of expertise sorry I can not help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 5 hours ago, garybrun said: know this thread is long and un-interesting Say what! This is the "Songs" forum, there isn't a person here that hasn't toiled for hours on a mix and questioned every decision they've made. 5 hours ago, garybrun said: see the thought process that goes into a mix creative process, who doesn't love insight in how others work? 5 hours ago, garybrun said: guy who orignally mixed this did it in about 10 mins... No, he was "familiar" with the track, I could be wrong; but no! 5 hours ago, garybrun said: never thought about "call and response" Coming from a rock/blues background; its all about the call and response... I would "center", and bring up the level, on something when the singer is quiet. I'd have to go thru tracks, but I suspect there's something to "fill the void"; I could be wrong... I'm guitar "centric", and I know that; but with all these tracks, someone is "playing his a-s-s off" everytime the singer takes a long breath. Also, the first section of the solo lacks a "focal" point. I'm not hearing anything, and I find that surprising. The second section has that slide work (Dobro maybe). You've got that pretty well centered. These are my quick thoughts. HTH t big ?'s on the whole process here! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garybrun Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Wookiee said: I have to confess not my field of expertise sorry I can not help. @Wookiee Thanks O. Furry One! I recently requested an additional forum for mixes and maybe mix templates. (not had a reply yet). Many post their songs up and then post various revisions for advice on mixing etc. My suggestion it would be good to have a dedicated area. Its so easy to get lost.. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garybrun Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, DeeringAmps said: Also, the first section of the solo lacks a "focal" point. I'm not hearing anything, and I find that surprising. The second section has that slide work (Dobro maybe). You've got that pretty well centered. Thanks for that.. I did have it set louder.. the automation on that track was switched off ? You get so involved in a project that you miss things... Ive listened to this track too much!!! ? Think I'll give it a break for a while. Now back to a few projects people have sent me from the forum ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garybrun Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 @Lord Tim Thanks so much for taking the time to listen and comment... really appreciated. Its amazing how everyone hears differently.... great advice thanks. I am building a new mix template on a coarse I'm on by Billy Decker.. country fella. Ill post his mix here.. Now my tastes are very different to his.. but look how much his mix is slammed and smacking you in the face. Everything is so forward.... I have added nothing to this track... this is the original. Watched this guy mix this in about 8mins from scratch with the template system. I can hardly hear his backing vocals and his guitars are right up front as you guitarist love!! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry T. Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 this is a most interesting, informative post....the song is great, well arranged, played, recorded, now it's just a question of ears and taste as to how it will wind up sounding....i can offer the perspective that most all of my stuff is recorded totally in the green, no yellow nor red in any meter whatsoever, the most tracks i've used is 32, i have used the absolute minimum amount of saturation, limiting, compression, tube emulators, etcetera....i rely on EQ'ing and volume automation along with recording each different drum, guitar, synth, piano, organ, etcetera piece on their own individual track for maximum audio manipulation so as to achieve maximum audio clarity and maximum overall song presentation.... as i've only been doing this for about 5 months listen to the professional's comments....please, carry on ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garybrun Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) @Larry T. HI Larry. Thanks for commenting. I am glad you find it informative etc. That's is why I have posted all the stages and struggles, hoping someone would find it helpful. I also always used to mix in the green... but when I discovered how saturation and clipping into emulated analogue gear etc has a huge effect.. it takes it too another level. You can create different colours and different effects give very different flavours when pushed. They used to push the old analogue tape to get certain sounds. I can mix clean.. I just want learn more about what does what and give myself more weapons to add too my arsenal. Now I have spent 4 days just building a mix template.. adding all compressors and other lovely nice analogue simulations. Check out ¨Billy Decker Template Mixing Hopefully now.. I am 70% there when I load all my tracks and stems into a project. Edited January 24, 2022 by garybrun 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garybrun Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 @Lord Tim thanks so much for taking the time to reply. brilliant.. I’m going to try some of those things. I always start with drum and bass and leave vocals to last.. Once again thanks pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Here I go, the "guitar player" wants more me. I'm hearing some things in your mix that are not in Billy's mix. I'm still thinking there is more "call and response" in the tracks; could be wrong... Was Billy involved at all in the tracking of this tune? Who produced the original sessions? For $57 I get the original sessions? Might be worth it just to see what you two are missing... Lots of good advice from Tim above. t I left some comments over at BandLab, louder is always better (see Tim above). Yes Billy's guitars are more present in the mix, and the vocal is "brighter". How much of that is just "its louder" (well his guitars are more "forward" as well). This has been enlightening and, well; FUN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garybrun Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, DeeringAmps said: Here I go, the "guitar player" wants more me. I'm hearing some things in your mix that are not in Billy's mix. I'm still thinking there is more "call and response" in the tracks; could be wrong... Was Billy involved at all in the tracking of this tune? Who produced the original sessions? For $57 I get the original sessions? Might be worth it just to see what you two are missing... Lots of good advice from Tim above. t I left some comments over at BandLab, louder is always better (see Tim above). Yes Billy's guitars are more present in the mix, and the vocal is "brighter". How much of that is just "its louder" (well his guitars are more "forward" as well). This has been enlightening and, well; FUN! Yes you get the original sessions and two more to work on.. pop and rock. I recommend it... you learn a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garybrun Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 @Lord Tim Brains are dumb... and so are we! LOL. I have been a Plapper for a few years now. My favourite teacher is Marc Daniel Neilson... WOW!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Kirby Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 It's a fine song and vocal performance - this sounds just as good as any of the hits on Country radio today. 40 tracks - yikes. That's a tough and challenging job. I average about 16 tracks per song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garybrun Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 @Douglas Kirby Hi Douglas. Thanks so much for taking the time to listen and comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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