GreenLight Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) Hi all! Can someone please help me reproduce this bug? I have been running into it for a long time, but just now I figured out how to reproduce it. Cakewalk version This bug is reproducible with Cakewalk 2021.12 (Build 102). (Updated Jan 9, 2022) Short version: Using the region selection with the smart tool, one cannot drag automation to the maximum if the track in question is a) below a folder track and b) that folder track is the very first track in the project. Steps to repro: Start with a blank project Insert a track folder at the top Insert an audio track below (but MIDI tracks have same bug) Enable automation for, say, volume, and make it a flat line at the bottom Using the smart tool, drag a range in the track and then position it near the top of the track Try to drag the automation range to the maximum Video demonstration In the video, I first demonstrate that dragging works OK with the track folder below. Then I place a folder track above, whereby I no longer can drag the automation to its maximum: Edited January 9, 2022 by GreenLight 1) Added "repro" to subject 2) clarified folder track location Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billp Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Confirmed, even if you expand the track folder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 I can reproduce that if the folder is the very first, before Track # 1. If there's another Track before/above the folder, the envelope can be dragged to its maximum hight but not smoothly, it stops shortly while dragging and then moves further. A momentary workaround for the first case is grabbing the selection again and move it upwards until it stops again, then repeat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenLight Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 Thanks a lot @billp and @Klaus! Another workaround in addition to yours, Klaus: once the nodes have been created, one can switch to the Move tool to drag the section all the way up. Let's hope the Bakers see this thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Jonesey Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Also, once the nodes have been added, you can drag the section upwards with the ctrl key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenLight Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 17 hours ago, Bristol_Jonesey said: Also, once the nodes have been added, you can drag the section upwards with the ctrl key Will try this, thanks @Bristol_Jonesey! I'll give staff a few days to see and reply here, then I'll email this bug report to support@cakewalk.com to make sure they notice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgon-Shaw Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Seems to work okay for me in a current project However...... I have been having different issue so I wonder if it's related In theory I should be able to select those two upper most automation nodes and Ctrl-Drag that line between the two points up and down. But it always seems to " let go " of the right hand node , and I end up with this instead It always used to work fine but at some point it's gone a bit strange. I thought it might be me but if there are other known issues then perhaps it's related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenLight Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Mark MoreThan-Shaw said: Seems to work okay for me in a current project Ah, the bug requires a very specific circumstance: it only occurs if the track in question is below a folder track, and that folder track itself is the first track in the project. (Compare the order of my tracks in the video compared to yours in your image.) I clarified the folder track "requirement" in the original post, thanks for pointing that out! ? About your second issue - yeah, I think I've had that too... let's see if we can figure out any repro and/or consistency to it... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgon-Shaw Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, GreenLight said: Ah, the bug requires a very specific circumstance: it only occurs if the track in question is below a folder track, and that folder track itself is the first track in the project. I think what's happening here is the cursor ( which is invisible at this point ) is hitting some sort barrier and stopping It's not that the automation line won't go any higher because you can release it , grab it again from a bit further down and eventually drag it all the way to the top. Glad to hear you've had the same issue with the lop-sided nodes on the Ctrl-drag Another one I've encountered ( and posted about previously to no avail ) is that sometimes you can't drag a track into a folder from above. It misses the Folder altogether and jumps to below the Folder. Then you have to release it and drag it into the Folder from beneath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenLight Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 This bug is reproducible with Cakewalk 2021.12 (Build 102) as well. I have now emailed support@cakewalk.com. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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