Morten Saether Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 The Cakewalk Reference Guide PDF can be accessed directly from this forum. To view and download the PDF, click the Cakewalk by BandLab forum menu and select Reference Guide PDF, or download the PDF directly from here. 3 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 This is a great idea, a most wonderful thing, thank you so much. It will be of so much help to new users who are starting with CbB and never had access to this before. Note to new users: the Reference Guide is not merely the HTML documentation in PDF form, it's a much more detailed 2,600 page book on how to use Cakewalk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral State Sound Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 17 hours ago, Morten Saether said: The Cakewalk Reference Guide PDF can be accessed directly from this forum. To view and download the PDF, click the Cakewalk by BandLab forum menu and select Reference Guide PDF, or download the PDF directly from here. Wow! It is true that Bandlab is listening to the community ? Can this manual be accesible from the DAW help menu? Thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fogle Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) Thank you for providing this pdf file to new Cakewalk by BandLab users. Wow! First look reaction. From a quick look there has been a lot of revisions and updates from the last edition of the Sonar Reference Manual. Congratulations to whoever has been working on the project. I am impressed. Edited April 7, 2019 by fogle622 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 On 4/6/2019 at 6:04 PM, fogle622 said: Congratulations to whoever has been working on the project That would be @Morten Saether, the hero of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Phillips Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 On 4/5/2019 at 2:52 PM, Morten Saether said: The Cakewalk Reference Guide PDF can be accessed directly from this forum. To view and download the PDF, click the Cakewalk by BandLab forum menu and select Reference Guide PDF, or download the PDF directly from here. So, happy to see it. I moved it to OneDrive so I can access from anywhere. The online documentation is very hard to read on my phone which I routinely use for technical reading when I have downtime (doctor's office, waiting for planes, etc.) Hope it can be kept reasonably current. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 On 4/6/2019 at 5:08 AM, Feral State Sound said: Can this manual be accessible from the DAW help menu? Our own @scook created a handy utility for adding items to the Utilities menu, and I found that it works a treat for adding an entry to launch the Cakewalk Reference Guide. http://forum.cakewalk.com/Adding-programs-to-the-SONAR-Utilities-Menu-a-new-tool-Updated-for-CbB-m3237117.aspx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fccfirstclass Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Thanks @Morten Saether for the all the time to do this for the users. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Newton Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Congratulations to Cakewalk by Bandlab and Morten Saether for the absolute hands down "BEST" music composition software I have ever had the pleasure of using. I have been in the producing/directing segment of music for 40 years and I can say unequivocally that Cakewalk by Bandlab cannot even be compared to any other music production software. It is so far superior in every regard that I don't even know where to begin my accolades. THANK YOU BANDLAB for coming up with the very best top notch software in the business. I only hope that others become aware of your excellent products early on in their careers. Very best to Bandlab and wishes for you to totally RULE in this exciting music production business...…...respectfully Archie Newton...……….San Diego Ca. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon bees Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 gulp....2,600 pages. is there a pdf handy guide as in "import something, record a couple of tracks on top and get the basics". thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fogle Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, jon bees said: gulp....2,600 pages. is there a pdf handy guide as in "import something, record a couple of tracks on top and get the basics". thanks @jon bees, 2600 pages is the size of the final Sonar Reference Guide pdf file. The April, 2020 Cakewalk Reference Guide pdf file was 1704 pages while the November, 2020 Reference Guide pdf file is 1802 pages. While that is still huge it is current by including information about all the updates from Sonar to 2020.11 Edited November 20, 2020 by Jim Fogle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 On 11/19/2020 at 6:59 AM, jon bees said: gulp....2,600 pages. is there a pdf handy guide as in "import something, record a couple of tracks on top and get the basics". thanks Where are you seeing this page count? The link at the top of this thread goes to the current manual, which is now down to around 1,700. Still quite a tome, but it's a substantial removal of outdated and redundant material. There is a getting started section. Your best bet, if you are okay with the YouTube format, is to go to the Tutorials Subforum and start browsing. With just the current ones that @Creative Sauce and @Xel Ohh (and others') are putting out, you should find plenty of guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Starship Krupa said: . . . it's a substantial removal of outdated and redundant material. I do recall that at one point there was a dramatic drop in number of pages which was due in large part to an increase in page size/more content per page. ** I recall doing a brief comparison of several sections and concluded it was not reduced to there being less content. Not sure if substantial sections were removed since then. One comparison of two versions was enough for me!!!! **"The version I downloaded 7-12-2019 (25.05.00) was 2188 pages. The . . . 25.07.00 version . . . was 1724 pages." [I did the comparison because a user expressed concern about having the correct version since the number of pages was so different.] Edited November 25, 2020 by User 905133 edits; to add a link referencing page number reduction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I kind of assumed that a lot of it was taking out instructions for use of Platinum Edition-only plug-ins. I noticed that Morten S. took out lots of pages from the "getting started" section that dealt with things like setting IRQ jumpers on boards and gameport-to- MIDI cables, outdated information about configuring a computer to be ready for SONAR. I think it went on for at least 50 pages about topics like disabling/enabling ACPI and plug 'n' play and making sure that AOL wasn't set up to automatically dial out with your modem and so forth. It mentioned that one way to get the latest drivers for your sound card might be by dialing up the card maker's BBS. There was no mention of the internet or web. ASIO and WASAPI were not included in the discussion about driver models. By my guess, it looked like most of the information dated back to before 1997. It was removed, the things that it covered are pretty much taken care of by running the manufacturer's installer, then plugging in a USB cable. Done, no IRQ conflicts or any of that. Even less if the person is just using the onboard hardware CODEC. Isn't it amazing the difference from those days? You can now literally go to Best Buy, buy a Windows notebook computer, and as long as it has 6G or more of RAM, there is nothing more that needs to be done if you are doing in-the-box electronic production. Sure, most people want to set up an external interface, but they don't have to. Back then you couldn't get sound of any kind out of the computer without dropping an extra $50-100 on an add-on card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 15 hours ago, Starship Krupa said: I kind of assumed that a lot of it was taking out instructions for use of Platinum Edition-only plug-ins. etc. You might be right!! I went from X3 to CbB (with a slight detour via the free Home Studio edition release at the very end and a quick look at the SPLAT demo). I was busy with my hardware sequencer and sound modules at the time, so never got into SPLAT (though I kept peeking in on what was happening). Sorry for any confusion: my solitary comparison was between two CbB Reference Guides. I defer to you on this (and to anyone else that wants to compare pdfs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fogle Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 For some reason the former Cakewalk website did not have a public link to download the Sonar Reference Guide. Before Cakewalk by Bandlab I used Cakewalk's consumer product, Music Creator. The older boxed editions included a printed manual while the newer versions included download links to updated versions of the same manual. As far as I know the old website did not include a public download link for the Sonar Reference Manual so if you didn't own Sonar you didn't have access to the guide. I found out about it because it was included in the download of Sonar Home Studio. I glad the guide is available to everyone that wishes to download it. Two changes would make it almost perfect; add a version number to the pdf file name and include the pdf in the initial download of Cakewalk by Bandlab. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Bowers Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 On 4/5/2019 at 6:35 PM, Starship Krupa said: ... it's a much more detailed 2,600 page book on how to use Cakewalk. Actually, it's 1802 pages. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fogle Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 20 hours ago, Nolan Bowers said: Actually, it's 1802 pages. The number of pages change after each manual update. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty mccraw Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 Any plans to update the Cakewalk Reference Guide PDF with all the numerous changes that have been implemented in Cakewalk Sonar. Please consider this. Many of the providers that used to provide great How-To information are now dropping support for Cakewalk Sonar and it seems we all have to up our skills for ourselves. Also, would there be an appetite for incentivizing Eli Kranzberg (Groove3.com) to produce something similar to his last modules for the original Sonar. I have taken some of those modules in the past and they were very good. Also, Scott Garrigus and Craig Anderton both did some good work with their original Sonar How-To's. If Cakewalk Sonar is to get it's market status back I would expect that individuals of this caliber should be courted. If many of the former stalwart providers are abandoning Cakewalk Sonar I worry about the prospect of enticing NEW users to adopt Cakewalk Sonar. That would be a shame. Cakewalk Sonar deserves the support and recognition. We Cakewalk Sonar users want to see Cakewalk Sonar get back it's status and we want to see 3rd party venders, etc. to begin to acknowledge and support our community. Cheers, Marty 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sock Monkey Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 (edited) It would seem Cakewalk/ Sonar/ Next are the only daw’s on the market that the owners have spent zero time or money on Tutorials. And for a long time now. I’m hoping they will sort this out SAP. Sonar is a complex Daw and new users will need the instructions to be properly done. Not a hodge podge of home made amateur YouTubes. You are correct that many of the original teachers are now gone. Scook, John Vere, and Creative Sauce come to mind. The fact that a whole year has passed and still no Sonar tutorials or manual!?? Sad Edited December 3 by Sock Monkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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