[CLOSED] Cakewalk 2021.04 Early Access

[TheGomes]

Hello Guys. Nice Update.

But... I can´t find this option: Help > Sign Out from BandLab

And Cakewalk\Shared Utilities\Internal\PC2ALevelingAmplifier there is only one folder called Resource with no DLL inside. I can´t find PC2A.

Thank you.

[Will.]

7 hours ago, Andres Medina said:

PC2A vs CA-2A:

I wonder if the PC2A is the same plugin as CA2A?

I see just one difference: CA-20 has the option to sidechain it. I don't  see this option in PC2A

 

 

It is identical. The "PC" in "PC2A" literally stands for "ProChannel." Thats it. I believe Softube had this version of it? 

So it's only a Prochannel version of it, like with some Boz plugins and Softube FET and EQ ProChannel versions back in Sonar. 

☺

 

[Will.]

17 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said:

Its most likely because those folders are not sub menus as I explained above. So you need to click them to open a new menu.

Like @User 905133 said. My confusion might be what I interpret as "SUB FOLDERS." 

To make this clear: To me - the main folder is the "plugin layout" such as "category and manufacture." So what ever folders are in them - they become "Sub folder" to me.

Like in the "Category Layout" sub folder to me are the EQ, DYNAMIC, DELAY, REVERB, MODULATION, folders with the little arrow next to it - that expands the "flatbed list/flyout,popup/multicolumn" window.

? Probably my mistake. Sorry. 

[Sergei Pilin]

12 hours ago, msmcleod said:

Sorry, cannot reproduce:

 

I haven't been able to replicate this on my other computer as well so I guess it's a glitch of my particular laptop, will have to investigate further. Thanks for your time.

[murat k.]

I'm having a problem with the theme.

In the Cakewalk Theme Editor I discoloured all plugin type icons. 

But in the Cakewalk side they seem all coloured in the Plug-in Browser.

Actually this issue is not new. I was having this issue for a long time, older themes was working without problem. I mean icons are seeing in grayscale with the old custom themes. However, this became a problem as the new version no longer supports the old themes.

These images belongs to the Tungsten theme but I tried it with the Mercury Theme too. The result is the same, the changes made in the Theme Editor to the icons are not seeing on the Cakewalk side.

Edit:

The working theme files belongs to early 2020's. I guess this issue came with an update to Cakewalk Theme Editor in Q3 2020.

Edited April 18, 2021 by murat k.

[michheld]

13 hours ago, Andres Medina said:

I wonder if the PC2A is the same plugin as CA2A?

CA2A seems to be a new Version of PC2A.
They seem to be nearly the same except CA2A having a VST-interface and a sidechain option including the button you mentioned. ?
Best regards.

[Eagle Eyed Jerry]

12 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said:

We mute uploaded mixdowns if you are also uploading tracks, otherwise you would get doubled audio. If you upload just a full mixdown it shouldn't be muted. Are you seeing that happen?

Its possible that there could be tiers for more than 16 tracks but I don't know of any immediate plans. Feel free to contact BandLab support for enquiries or requests.
For BandLab specific help you can contact support@bandlab.com

Yeah I'm having mixdowns muted when no other tracks are uploaded. See screenshot below for the settings I choose.
 

[Nigel Mackay]

1 hour ago, michheld said:

CA2A seems to be a new Version of PC2A.
They seem to be nearly the same except CA2A having a VST-interface and a sidechain option including the button you mentioned. ?
Best regards.

It was mentioned in a post that you are correct. Apart from those 2 differences they are exactly the same.

[Noel Borthwick]

1 hour ago, James Holmes said:

Yeah I'm having mixdowns muted when no other tracks are uploaded. See screenshot below for the settings I choose.
 

I’ll look into it. That’s not expected thanks.

[Noel Borthwick]

13 hours ago, User 905133 said:

@Noel BorthwickI saw in another thread these (the new non-scrolling lists) were referred to as cascading menus and fly-out menus.  I see also that others are using different words.

To avoid confusion, what have they been called internally, or rather what will they be called when officially released? 

(Apologies if its in the EA features/changes description already.)

 Nothing fancy lol, multi-column custom plug-in menus maybe. It’s a rework of the CbB plugin menu layout code that overcomes the Windows menu limitations and adds several customizations. Windows menus don’t support more than about 1100 menu items so this was the primary reason why we did this, but then we went beyond and added scrolling keyboard handling, multi-column support, better categorization, etc.

[Jacques Boileau]

I did some tests this morning to see if I could quantify this a little more. I have tried it a few times betwen 2020.01 and 2020.04 EA using the rollback installer. I can now say for sure that I get a lot  more dropouts with the EA. To try and show this I have increased DropoutMsec from 250 to 2500 msec so that playback wouldn't stop in EA. I then played 1m20s of my project in both 2021.01 and 2021.04 EA. Here are the results. The max engine load is not that much more in EA, but with this project it generates almost 45% more late buffers. At the default DropoutMsec of 250 msec, the project normally plays true, or at least for the most part, with crackle in 2020.01 and stops after a few seconds on EA.

In case this might be seen differently: I give this as information if it could be helpful in anyway to the devs. It is not something I am complaining about. I am totally aware that this project is too complex, using plugings that are probably too cpu intensive pushing my PC to its limit.

2021.01

2021.04 EA

[Andres Medina]

8 hours ago, Will_Kaydo said:

It is identical. The "PC" in "PC2A" literally stands for "ProChannel." Thats it. I believe Softube had this version of it? 

So it's only a Prochannel version of it, like with some Boz plugins and Softube FET and EQ ProChannel versions back in Sonar. 

☺

 

Thanks! I get it now.

[Andres Medina]

A little thing, not important, but strange, new to this release.

In track view, sometimes I get this vertical grey line randomly appearing in a track. See screenshot.

I´ll try to reproduce it and report it.

[Andres Medina]

1 minute ago, Andres Medina said:

A little thing, not important, but strange, new to this release.

In track view, sometimes I get this vertical grey line randomly appearing in a track. See screenshot.

I´ll try to reproduce it and report it.

Got it:

1. Insert midi or audio track

2. Press NumPad - any number (1,2,3)

Then the grey line appears an moves depending on the number typed.

 

[Andres Medina]

By the way, just found out that using the NumPad when assigned to screenshots via shortcuts, doesn't work or work randomly: Sometimes it triggers the linked screenshot, sometimes it doesn't.

[scook]

 

4 minutes ago, Andres Medina said:

ot it:

1. Insert midi or audio track

2. Press NumPad - any number (1,2,3)

Then the grey line appears an moves depending on the number typed.

Looks like enhanced keyboard editing was invoked.

[scook]

1 minute ago, Andres Medina said:

By the way, just found out that using the NumPad when assigned to screenshots via shortcuts, doesn't work or work randomly: Sometimes it triggers the linked screenshot, sometimes it doesn't.

This may be what turned on the enhanced editor. AFAIK, the numbers on the typewriter side of the keyboard should be used for screensets.

[Andres Medina]

38 minutes ago, scook said:

 

Looks like enhanced keyboard editing was invoked.

mmmm, neveer used it before.

Just checked and apparently the enhance keyboard editing is not active, because it's not associated to a shortcut. See image.

[Andres Medina]

38 minutes ago, scook said:

This may be what turned on the enhanced editor. AFAIK, the numbers on the typewriter side of the keyboard should be used for screensets

Thanks!

Yes, I already have assigned the screensets that way: the trouble is that sometimes pressing the numbers invokes the screenset, sometimes it does nothing.

[Sergei Pilin]

20 hours ago, msmcleod said:

Sorry, cannot reproduce:

 

I think I have figured this out and I believe it is a bug. Everything does work correctly just like on your video UNLESS you have an open Piano roll window in the troublesome screenset. Try to do the same now with  Piano roll on the screenset without tempo track but with arranger track present. Arranger track diappears every time you switch from tempo map screenset.