GreenLight Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 55 minutes ago, Colin Nicholls said: Multimedia Class Scheduler Service If you're having performance issues in a Project with a DAW with multiple cores, might try toggling the value to see if you get different results Thanks, interesting! Does it generally give better performance for you guys? I've never known about or tried that setting in all these years... and I'm generally an audio nerd. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Harder Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Cakewalk Version 2021.01 Build 93 PRV Articulations are deleted when Project, Insert Time/Measures, Insert Measures is used. Articulations after the At Time will be deleted -- or not. Before Printscreen After Then same Before Printscreen but different At Time After Then same Before Printscreen, at 2:01 but only 1 measure insert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 41 minutes ago, Steve Harder said: Cakewalk Version 2021.01 Build 93 PRV Articulations are deleted when Project, Insert Time/Measures, Insert Measures is used. Articulations after the At Time will be deleted -- or not. @Steve Harder - can you PM me your project ? This is working fine for me: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Harder Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 20 minutes ago, msmcleod said: This is working fine for me: What happens if you do the insert at Time 1:01? That's where I see all the articulations going away. And I will PM project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Steve Harder said: What happens if you do the insert at Time 1:01? That's where I see all the articulations going away. And I will PM project. Still working fine for me inserting at 1:01. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Harder Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, msmcleod said: Still working fine for me inserting at 1:01. Attempted to PM you but got so attached here. Race to Feed PM.cwp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc LeBlanc Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) I updated successfully but now my projects won't load. I keep getting an error. "Could not open file. The file may be damaged or incompatible with this version of Cakewalk. You may attempt to recover this file in 'safe' mode by holding down the SHIFT key while opening it." Can I roll back to the previous version? I sure hope so, otherwise, this is going to be a complete disaster! -Marc. Edited January 29, 2021 by Marc LeBlanc Wasn't done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Marc LeBlanc said: I updated successfully but now my projects won't load. I keep getting an error. "Could not open file. The file may be damaged or incompatible with this version of Cakewalk. You may attempt to recover this file in 'safe' mode by holding down the SHIFT key while opening it." Can roll back to the previous version? I sure hope so, otherwise, this is going to be a complete disaster! -Marc. This has been addressed with the update in this post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutrageProductions Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I don't know how long this has been happening but I found an issue (albeit minor) in using the Drum Pane of the PRV when the PRV is undocked as a floating window or on another monitor.Right click on note to open Map Properties dialog and it will not retain focus, so it slides behind the PRV window and can't be found again without closing/resizing the PRV window. Workaround is to immediately pull the Map Properties dialog elsewhere on the screen real estate so that it is not covered by any open windows. This makes renaming/routing/editing drum notes very frustrating.Maybe add an <Accept/Cancel> routine to the API call for the Map Properties window so that it retains GUI focus until closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 9 hours ago, Steve Harder said: Attempted to PM you but got so attached here. Race to Feed PM.cwp 447.93 kB · 2 downloads Thanks @Steve Harder - I found the issue, and it's fixed for the main update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Harder Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 5 hours ago, msmcleod said: I found the issue, and it's fixed for the main update. Thanks for working it. Printscreens are my friend, I'm not saavy enough to do those fancy animated gifs that I see the pros using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NealClark Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 1:47 PM, msmcleod said: We did this change to make "Insert Instrument" consistent with how "Insert Audio Track" and "Insert MIDI Track" work - i.e. they always insert above the currently selected track. I you want the old behaviour, use the "Add Instrument Track" button: In my install of CbB, and indeed all my other installs of Sonar Platinum and Sonar X3, the "Insert Audio Track" and "Insert Midi Track" do NOT insert above the currently selected track and never have. if I use CTRL-T, to insert an audio track, it appears as the last track in my list and the same applies to CTRL-Shift-T for midi tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teegarden Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 @Noel Borthwick Thanks for trying to improve multicore AMD performance! I finally found some time to compare behaviour between the November version and latest CbB. I don't know how to report in detail, since the performance parameters in the control bar change all the time (I don't get how to interpret it). Anyway, here's my attempt: I opened a project with many tracks and busses and lots of instruments and FX preloaded and let it run for several minutes, after which I noted the performance parameters. Threadripper 1950X 16 core, 32 threads RME PCIe AIO soundcard 24-bit, 96kHz, 64-bit double precision Engine2020.11.099 latency ThreadSchedulingModel Audio processing Engine Load Late Buffers 256 buffer effective latency 2.7 ms, ASIO reported latencies: input 3.1, output 3.7, total roundtrip 6.8ms 2 8,54% (Max.45.18%) 59.0% (Max 117.1%) 53 256 buffer effective latency 2.7 ms, ASIO reported latencies: input 3.1, output 3.7, total roundtrip 6.8ms 3 7,15% (Max.38.60%) 70.1% (Max 83.5%) 0 128 buffer effective latency 1.3 ms, ASIO reported latencies: input 1.8, output 2.3, total roundtrip 4.1ms 2 3.85% (Max.46.78%) 87.3% (Max 156.4%) 5756 128 buffer effective latency 1.3 ms, ASIO reported latencies: input 1.8, output 2.3, total roundtrip 4.1ms 3 10.48% (Max.45.90%) 113.3% (Max 141.1%) 46602021.01 Update 1 256 buffer effective latency 2.7 ms, ASIO reported latencies: input 3.1, output 3.7, total roundtrip 6.8ms 2 7,66% (Max.35.66%) 58.5% (Max 107.5%) 3 256 buffer effective latency 2.7 ms, ASIO reported latencies: input 3.1, output 3.7, total roundtrip 6.8ms 3 6,64% (Max.42.63%) 76.3% (Max 94.1%) 0 128 buffer effective latency 1.3 ms, ASIO reported latencies: input 1.8, output 2.3, total roundtrip 4.1ms 2 12.28% (Max.46.34%) 87.3% (Max 239.0%) 11487 128 buffer effective latency 1.3 ms, ASIO reported latencies: input 1.8, output 2.3, total roundtrip 4.1ms 3 10.90% (Max.44.75%) 109.4% (Max 144.9%) 7343 From what I can conclude so far: ThreadSchedulingModel 3 is much better in any scenario when looking at late buffers. For the rest, the figures change too often (for me at least) to jump to conclusions. I'm really impressed with the bug fixes and new features. CbB has been working like a charm the first hour of recording after my test . No bugs or sound interruptions, clicks or plops so far (I use standard 256 buffer, ThreadSchedulingModel 3). Great work!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12345678ytrewq Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I had issue with new update. Previously I never had this and all updates was smooth without any errors. Even when press "Cancel installation" it mess something out and it no longer allow to rollback to previous install via provided here rollback installer. For me helped only full uninstall from Control Panel and reinstall from BandLab app from scratch. There definitely something changed in Update 1 installer or in 2021 build as previously never happened this. I saw in Facebook Cakewalk groups that some other people had same issue. Hope this information will help. Thanks guys. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BEAUGRAND Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Hello, this is not an issue with this update but a very old one. The piano roll view (as well as the score view, and most of the windows) is always behind any vst window (instrument or effects). You can't put the piano roll view on top of any vst window, which is very annoying (using floating windows). It would be great to fix this issue ! David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Andris Rinkis said: I had issue with new update. Previously I never had this and all updates was smooth without any errors. Even when press "Cancel installation" it mess something out and it no longer allow to rollback to previous install via provided here rollback installer. For me helped only full uninstall from Control Panel and reinstall from BandLab app from scratch. There definitely something changed in Update 1 installer or in 2021 build as previously never happened this. I saw in Facebook Cakewalk groups that some other people had same issue. Hope this information will help. Thanks guys. ? This is a Waves issue - they're aware of it and are working on an update. The current workarounds are, either: Reboot your PC before upgrading; or End the WavesLocalServer process from within task manager, and click Try again 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NealClark Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 9 hours ago, David BEAUGRAND said: Hello, this is not an issue with this update but a very old one. The piano roll view (as well as the score view, and most of the windows) is always behind any vst window (instrument or effects). You can't put the piano roll view on top of any vst window, which is very annoying (using floating windows). It would be great to fix this issue ! David you can use X-RAY with the Shift-X keys to make the plugin fade to the back and reverse it with the same keys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutrageProductions Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 11 hours ago, David BEAUGRAND said: The piano roll view (as well as the score view, and most of the windows) is always behind any vst window (instrument or effects).You can't put the piano roll view on top of any vst window, which is very annoying (using floating windows). I have this issue of disappearing dialogs only with the Drum Map view <Map Properties> dialog. in keyboard view of PRV any Note Properties dialog stays focused. My normal operation is for the PRV to be full screen on Monitor 3... when I have a VST window open (and PINNED) it will pass behind the PRV until the next time that I call focus to that VST track or instrument, then it comes forward again. I often have 3 to 6 VST windows pinned behind the PRV and they always come fore when called. Just FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Vilnev Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Hello! I would really like changes in the media file browser. Please add a one shot button, but so that this function does not stretch the clip, but just sounds to the rhythm. This is very convenient when you pick up a Kick (under the bass guitar) or Hat. Along with the One Shot button you should also add a rhythm button with a choice like in Tempo Delay(1\1, 1\2, 1\4, 1\8 and so on). I hope I was able to explain. Have a nice day! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannymac Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Seeing reall improvements in terms of engine session load in a heavy project with those latest improvements! Well done guys, I'm really grateful. If you were to ever add some adaptive CPU load processing like REAPER has I'd be in dream land. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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