Starship Krupa Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 As the author of a Tungsten-based theme, I'm kind of puzzled about how in PRV, the only themes where I can notice the effect of View/Show Clip Outlines are the lighter ones. Mercury, MIL-SPEC Alpha, other lighter themes both show the clip outlines as an overlay. There seems to be some way to set this, as I see that Flat White Matcha and MIL-SPEC Alpha differ slightly, but I can't find it in TE or TYLIP. Also, in PRV, when a track is armed for recording, the view background and clip take on a pinkish hue. This seems to be universal, in every theme I can find, but has anyone figured out how to change it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Nicholls Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Starship Krupa said: I'm kind of puzzled about how in PRV, the only themes where I can notice the effect of View/Show Clip Outlines are the lighter ones. Mercury, MIL-SPEC Alpha, other lighter themes both show the clip outlines as an overlay. There seems to be some way to set this, as I see that Flat White Matcha and MIL-SPEC Alpha differ slightly, but I can't find it in TE or TYLIP. It definitely uses the "Clip Background" color as a tint, e.g. I get brown/grey outlines in STEAMPUNK, which uses a dark brown background for clips. In TUNGSTEN I can't see anything, until I select the clips and manually set their backgrounds to a light color, i.e: It's a shame that TUNGSTEN, being a canonical default theme, uses a color combination that renders the clip outlines invisible. But I guess (I know) it's hard to cover every possible case and still have something aesthetically pleasing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 Clip outlines in the PRV are not a big deal for me, but it did have me puzzled that Tungsten wasn't showing them. The tint that tracks take on when they are armed for recording is something I'm interested in because I like to reduce ambiguity, and the shift to a slight dusty rose tint doesn't really stand out enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Nicholls Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 @Starship Krupa, I haven't found a Theme Element that controls the Rec-Arm tint. Even my PURPLETRATOR theme (Every possible color element is a shade of purple) uses the red tint for armed tracks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) I've recreated the same PRV colors in both Mercury & Tungsten with the same results: Setting View>Show Clip Outlines does absolutely nothing in either theme. I believe it is disabled. Changing Track/Clip colors in the Inspector does not affect PRV Note colors or TV "Notes" view. They can be changed in Preferences as can the Note background colors. To change PRV Note color, go to MIDI Tracks x, xx, xx... Foreground in Preferences. This too is broken tho. My track 10, which is MIDI track 5, is affected by MIDI Tracks 9, 19, 29... Foreground. ? There is no REC-ARM color in T.E. To change, go to Record Preview Clip Background in Preferences. REC-ARM only affects Track View, not the PRV. On 1/11/2021 at 1:19 PM, Starship Krupa said: Also, in PRV, when a track is armed for recording, the view background and clip take on a pinkish hue. Edited January 28, 2021 by sjoens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Nicholls Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, sjoens said: There is no REC-ARM color in T.E. To change, go to Record Preview Clip Background in Preferences. Interesting, good catch. Thanks. I've added a section to chapter 3.8 in the YLIP and uploaded v.2021.01.12. Edited January 12, 2021 by Colin Nicholls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 View>Show Clip Outlines: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 Happy day! Anyone else notice this feature of the latest hotfix: Quote Increased contrast of PRV clip outlines so they are visible regardless of current theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Nicholls Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Someone ratted on us, boys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) It's better than it used to be But I still find it hard to see In a dark PRV Edited January 28, 2021 by sjoens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarlux Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, sjoens said: It's better than it used to be But I still find it hard to see In a dark PRV It works very good Edited January 27, 2021 by solarlux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) According to Colin's post (#2), you must have a light clip background in Track View. Dark clips still show darker outlines in a dark PRV. Edited January 28, 2021 by sjoens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarlux Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, sjoens said: You must have a light clip background in Track View. Dark clips still show darker outlines in a dark PRV. I Have default black color clip background in picture where my outlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) Interesting. So do I and my outlines are darker than the PRV background. Edited January 28, 2021 by sjoens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarlux Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I have black and i can see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarlux Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) Try to test it with my colors import them in preferences colors but be sure save your old colors https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VghXm6BHLCkputjStBtwv4000v50tvxH/view?usp=sharing Edited January 28, 2021 by solarlux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Never mind. I was unaware of hotfix 93. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 Also, although I said that clip outlines in the PRV weren't a big deal, as soon as it started working correctly I immediately found it to be quite handy and workflow-improving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhayron Quiliche Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 On 1/11/2021 at 6:36 PM, Colin Nicholls said: Definitivamente usa el color "Clip Background" como tinte, por ejemplo, obtengo contornos marrones / grises en STEAMPUNK, que usa un fondo marrón oscuro para los clips. En TUNGSTEN no puedo ver nada, hasta que selecciono los clips y configuro manualmente sus fondos a un color claro, es decir: Es una pena que TUNGSTEN, al ser un tema canónico predeterminado, use una combinación de colores que hace que los contornos del clip sean invisibles. Pero supongo (lo sé) que es difícil cubrir todos los casos posibles y aún así tener algo estéticamente agradable. Wow, I was surprised, buddy, how do you keep the dots from showing? I tried to do it but nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 11/16/2021 at 8:19 AM, Jhayron Quiliche said: Wow, I was surprised, buddy, how do you keep the dots from showing? I tried to do it but nothing Which dots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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