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Guyz what you describes is exactly the probem : Any small move , from a 0,2 eq move to a 5 mm mic move , is amplified like craaazy with amp I don t even talk about overdrive and disto box added to the chain , add to this cabinets , mic sampling ect... So unless you get the exact same sound , you can not judge to signal , period , the only thing you gonna hear is difference in tone .... or like you stated differences in higher freq register due to the design , i know mebrini and pa filters a lot high freq , a lot of amp sim does that , this results on what i said to a friend like a feeling of lo fi in the mix versus a real amp ... So my point is , if you guyz fire a marshall and another marshall and just say this one is superior because you prefer the sound , it s just irrelevant , i m amazed how different a SAME amp can sound presets from presets just with small moves ...due to what i explained before ... So how did i made my statement : i opened each amp and did the sound i ve found the best for the song ... one is orange , one is soldano , one is fender , one is randall ect ...did a blind test and the orange came several time at first ... and when in another exemple i needed more depth to compete with for exemple with the membrini and neutal dsp (thks mainly to their cabinet impulses witch is imho where they shine ) i succed to have even more depth with the cabinet section in amplitube ... So at the end , i m not saying this is better than that , i m saying ´ this one is no better than that .... The fact that one amp sim leads you to a sound you label "good" faster than another , is what counts and it has nothing to due with faithfull emulation but more with design (interfacing and algo design ) some gain structure are linear , other are not , some eq's are linear some are proporionaly Q'ed , some deafult setting are already eq differently to let you play with eq and feel smoother that competition ect ...

I hate you all lol .... so i was cooling , then i clicked on this thread ..tested mebrini , then teste neural dsp , then cabinet talk , went STLtones , downloaded cabintes then i'm trying every of their amps ....? EDIT : my conclusion is simple , the more i try other stuff the more i think Amplitube is fantastic .... yep other stuff are great but nothing i can't achieve with amplitube , its strengthy might be it's cons : choices / versatibility

you rock , i'm also liking the torpedo ..a friend has an amp sim from them (HW) and it's a serious piece .... (and he hates plugin sim lol )

Does this comes with good IR ? http://www.igniteamps.com/

You can just tell me what ir loader and where to get good ir ....

ok that's the small detail you get on annoucement on the wayyyy under ...written super small .... what are you using , all my friend tell me about tnot using built in cab but ir loader and this celeston name comes a lot !

ahahahah i swear i tested on it from scratch ...lol i was tchating also with a friend on Fb ...lol

lol @Soundwise was chilling until we fukkk ed up the thread Carlos ....lol she was like "ok guyz , here we go !!!" Thks @Soundwise just tested it , it need more meat so 'im tweakin g but at least i have the riff !!!

try also this impulse as start on the red neck !!

yes check this out : start from here , this amp is indeed precise and beefy at the same time

On a technical side ,guyz analyse the space around the voice , that ambience ...is to study !!

check this line

lol ok now i understand , i hate those tones ...it's just taking of any articulation , it's like painting a piant with BIgggg brushes if you know what i mean ....i'm more a Monnet guy

yep megadual / single can soun really close to actual mebrini, i really feel rhe same disto but dieffrent curves (eq) ... Yep of course the marcshall can have meat but i had to boost all the way bass unlike the other ...the sources is stellar blues low New Orleans recording ..they're super close , i will give the adavntage to marshal l for higher tone ....understand here that clean to high Marsahll is the winner , cause the high gain on the other is a pain for my ears , that said i prefer the softer tone of the other ...but question of taste , we can all agree that this dude knows his tuff and it's quality stuff here !!

when i see the quality of membrini coding i can only think that Pa fuked the thing when it come to cabinet and their set up .... instead of asking peoiple like J. Barresi or i don't know they kept doing their own thing and knowing that they're mainly metal heads i understand why it can sucks for a lot of other materials !! don't know ...what do i know about gtr lol

Carlos the marshall is exellent also but it lacks like a lways some meat versus this one i'm using it fro crunch not heavy drive .... try my setting and try to make it as warm on the masrhsall ..

Fair , you do have 3 amps and pedals (comp, eq , delay reverb , drive ect ..) You made me try the bad boy and it is indeed better (soundwise ) than the marshall specailly with the 1960 cab

be sure to check Plini from neural dsp !! it has depth and natural tone with a precision that is rare !!

One of my fav is the orange 120

Guyz i was checking amps for course and i used to gravitate toward offically branced amps , but man the vox sounds superbe !!

The Nembrini have tis tendancy to not be so meatty iv'e found , so not a lot of bass witch means that it has the mid presence pronounced ... Try Neural DSP Plini and tell me , i've found the tone of this bad boy the most natural and less agressive to all i'm testing right now , i can have precision whitout agression ... i'm using the clean amp for crunch ....

testing the marshall here , what i do love is the plugin implementation , dude soooooooo much better that BX !!!!! pffff just for that i wish i didn't bought last BX to go mebrini , my eyes would have thk me !!

A lot of my Gtr friends praise neural dsp stuff , have you tried those ?

Yep i was talking dollar for a dollar ....

Using JP in the custom shop would have been great ...