fitzroy

Yeah, valid points. But even at $10 a month they'd make a pretty penny over multiple years. Also, this $150 offer is only for the first year, I think. They had something similar last year, and it wasn't renewing at that rate.

I was actually hoping that EastWest would have a $9.99/month sale for the composer cloud, perhaps in response to Musio. I would go for that. I don't quite get why they don't do it; as opposed to most mixing/mastering plugins, I'd hate to switch between large orchestral libraries/ecosystems. There would be a strong incentive to stick with a sub for years, making it a win-win.

I demo-ed this, and it was painful, as figuring out the IK multiverse often is. Activating the demo in Tonex CS you get a message that you have 30 minutes (lol) to demo the pack, but then, clicking through the individual tone models, they still come with that lovely intermittent hiss (as with demo-ing tone models one doesn't own) ? The collection itself sounds good, though to my ears, not significantly better than some of the better (free) captures on Tone Net. Speaking of those, another IK riddle: as my OS drive died a sudden and definitive death, I had to reinstall *everything* (which was quite a crash-course into the wildly different activation/deactivation policies that companies employ). Before the tragic passing, I had 17 tone models downloaded in my Tonex CS (in the 20 available 'free' slots). Having reinstalled Tonex CS, I can't find a way to access (identify and re-download) those. The filter seems to only reflect tone models saved/downloaded locally, so if they're not available, they don't show up, even though they're counted against the limit of 20 slots. Any ideas? ?

So, for those like me, who also didn't get the Mod and Crush pack plugins at first install; I updated Native Access, reintroduced the NI effects serial from the bundle, and now they show up in NA, ready to be installed.

No joke, I think I refreshed this page 500 times. For a 16 dollar discount on a plugin I don't really need. G*dd*mn GAS

Eh, no need. At the rate NI's glitching, we'll soon get K14 CE for the price of a HoRNet EQ.

Maybe only people born in August get those. Seriously though, I guess they'll figure it out. Native Access doesn't seem to mind repeat registering of the same serial code, so I'll try to refresh NA and/or readd the serial code for a couple of days, before I start whining to them. But if someone (not born in August) gets them to work it would be nice to know how.

Yeah, they'll sell us some hardware instead, discounted at 67%. Come on, that would be ridiculous. Maybe NI are just getting to grips with Izotope's licensing. I'd congratulate them for a good job if this upgrade really required any base product owned at all, as opposed to earlier times.

I've been playing around with Guitar Rig 7 for the past couple of hours. Didn't expect anything from it, next to everything else I own and use, yet I came off pleasantly surprised. It's quite inspiring for cleanish ambiental stuff, with some very good effects, flexible modulation options, and a nice (and large) set of presets to get you tweaking. I counted it as zero added value as I went for the MPS6 upgrade, so it's quite a nice bonus. I never bothered with Guitar Rig 6, so I have no idea if this is a significant step-up? Grem - if you haven't succeeded already, I couldn't install GR7 using Native Access, I had to install Native Access 2 (had no idea it existed, figured it would auto-update to whatever the current version is).

Yeah, me too, but if you look on the product page, the Mod Pack and Crush Pack are supposed to be included ?

Did any of you manage to activate/install the full set of NI effects? Including the Mod and Crush packs? If so, how did you do it? I activated the effects collection in Native Access using the serial number, but only a few of the effects that are supposed to be in there show up.

I got it as well. The install process is kind of mess though. The NI effects are incomplete (the Mod Pack and Crush Pack are missing); Guitar Rig 7 shows in my NI account but not in Native Access... ?

I didn't quite get where those codes were coming from. Any chance there are more floating about?

Key part was "to get you going quickly". Because I doubt I'd replace my Acustica channel strips with PSP's. Yeah. That's definitely a plus ?

So tempting, as I really like my PSP plugins. I'm just not sure I'd use it much, on top of all the other stuff I have and use. And in terms of flexibility within a single plugin, to get you going quickly, MixBox is hard to beat.

Thanks, Fleer. Very confusing. On the Drum Empire 2000 page they have a list under "Drum Empire 2020 is used by following plugins" which includes LE, even the free Player. But as you say, no access to edits means no 'Generator', so the only other option would be having a midi instrument that can load the packs, and I have no clue if/where that is included.

How would one use the drum packs, say, Drum Empire 2000, within MSoundFactory LE, without an MDrummer license? Is there a drum instrument that can load/use the samples?

I would seriously consider this, if it would renew at the same rate, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Given the name, I was surprised to see they still come with a gain knob. But maybe 0 is set to 11, and it goes to 21.

So was my UltraLite MK3. FireWire only, because FireWire is the future, anyone who's serious about music should consider investing in a FireWire interface, they told me.

If you're just starting out with Overloud, it's really worth demo-ing extensively to figure out what you're interested in. I think in terms of spending wisely, there are two main paths: 1. You like one/all of the main TH-U packs. In this case, it's likely worth getting TH-U premium from the start, during a good sale. You'll have an extensive and flexible collection at your disposal, then you can add a few rig libraries or discounted expansion packs, if needed. TIP to save $20: get RockGuy + TH-U upgrade (from any TH-U edition, RockGuy counts) instead of TH-U Premium ($149 instead of $169, current sale prices, and that's without the jrrshop discount codes ?). 2. You are SURE you're mainly just interested in rig libraries. In this case, you can get tremendous value out of using TH-U Essentials and your favorite rig libraries. With some rig libraries (e.g. BM, some BHS) or fx (RockGuy) you also get extra effects pedals or functionality normally restricted to paid TH-U versions (e.g. Amp Tweaks). If you go with 1., things are simple. 2. is more... a la carte, and can help you save a bit of money (compared to getting TH-U Premium + rig libraries), but is risky: if you later start getting bits that are included in the premium version (e.g. RockGuy, SuperCabinet) or are discounted for premium users (current and future expansion packs) you can easily end up at a point where you'd have been better off going with 1. from the beginning. Trust me on this, I've done the math, but more importantly, I'm a certified expert in making things more complicated and time-consuming for what is often, at best, a saving of a few $. Needless to say, I'm on the second path. ? ?

Trialing the rig libraries is quick and straightforward, but it's not particularly generous: 24 hours, twice per year. Also, you don't need TH-U full to use rigs anymore, since TH-U Essential is freely available. To my ears, the rig libraries are where TH-U shines, but I agree, it is a rabbit hole...

Thanks! Interesting that upgrading to Kontakt 7 doesn't change the K14 upgrade price; that's my loyalty offer as well, from Kontakt 6.