Keni

Thanks Guys...

I'm very familiar with our assorted zoom tools. My issues are not with the toolset, but with the results.

All is well if you stick to zooming tracks. The problems are all related to zoom and Lanes.

For me, I've long ago accepted lanes (vs. layers) and other than zoom issues for it I could easily move on.

Look at what results of a zoom in lanes. Instead of getting what I ask for, I get some never comfortable "interpretation" of my lasso. Sometimes I don’t even get any lanes instead having a full screen track.

Complicating this even more is the confusion between the track portion (above the lanes) and the lanes. I rarely want to see ANY data in the track while Lanes are exposed. The promoted clips are obvious in each lane by their color/highlighting. A constant visual annoyance!

I'm becoming more sure this is due to some complication of how silverlight handles the subset (lanes) along with parent (track). I just can’t believe after a decade (?) a solution hasn't been found and no one else is bothered. All other issues aside, this single, major item is still in my face everyday... all day and all of the night!

I really find it hard to believe I'm the only person continually bothered by this.

I've been complaining about it since silverlight was introduced.

It is constantly in my face as it is used so often. Much like touching your face. You do it all day long.

I spend far too much time mousing around to adjust my view.

Is it really too much to ask for? Pre silverlight we had this and though there has been some improvement since, it is still a far cry from good.

All I'm asking for is to see the area I select via lasso to zoom to fill the pane. Regardless of being track or lane data. No quantizing, no second guessing!

This has to be one of the most fundamental tools we work with!

PLEASE! (Excuse the scream. Too many years of frustration built in)

Is anyone else seeing this?

I've had this on occasion before, but the since the 2020.05 update it is happening most of the time.

I am using all the same plugins I regularly have used for a number of years. It's win8.1, so very little changes with windows updates. My interface is using the same driver as well. Due to Presonus dropping VSL tech, I am frozen with that driver.

I know it's an easy bug to work around, but it sure is annoying and I'm wondering if there is more control over this?

Thanks...

Any info on how to access other skins? The default is very blah...

Just found it in the standalone. Now to see if that carries over if if similar setting is available in the plugin.

Yup. Skin selected in the standalone carries to the plugin. Nice.

Nice sounding synth!

10 hours ago, Jim Roseberry said:

The K1 does have 8-Bit piano samples.

They sound terrible...   ? 

Never could get a decent acoustic piano sound out of it.

So I found. I didn’t expect a synth, i was hoping for a good virtual Kawai ...

oh well. I'll check today re:updates as there is a blank ui in the version i have

Edit:

I downloaded the app again and over wrote the old file. Now all is well...

It seems to work here but the UI is blank, so it's very limited...

Also I was fooled expecting a Kawai piano which of course it doesn't have...

Yes, these are all simply tools. What matters is how it works for each user's work methods. I have assorted copies of most though no longer on my machine (I do have lite versions of ProTools and Studio One installed)  Except for a few rare situations, I only use CbB as I have since Cakewalk fir Windows.

The real reason I chimed in here is To remind many that the new Melodyne 5 update now has chord tracks...

Sadly for me the update requires win10 and my DAW is trapped at win8.1. Dual xeon 6 core processors (3.06) and 64G RAM is hard to abandon...

I'm running a Mac Pro 5,1 with win8.1 for near 5 years and an older Mac Pro before that. All under Bootcamp. No problems.

I've seen such trouble before. I don't know if this relates to the reason, but when I saw it, it was a machine using a bootcamp partition on the same drive.

Maybe add an eSATA drive for this?

I'm guessing you checked that scan paths are correct?

Did you install using Cakewalk Command Center?

41 minutes ago, jonathan boose said:

I went from XP to 7 to 10.

Not familiar with 8, but whatever works for you.

Hi Jonathan...

I got stuck at this version due to hardware/OS limitations and at first I was miffed, but it turns out that while 8 was a PITA.... 8.1 works great and without the myriad of forced downloads and such that 10 has....

1 hour ago, jonathan boose said:

I do all my downloads with Microsoft Edge.

I'm sure it can be defaulted to send files to a specific location but that isn't the real issue. I'm pretty sure Bandlab Assistant used to default to desktop without my configuring the PC to default to desktop.

Desktop is part of C drive so I don't want to store large files there if I don't need them there. I like to choose for each download.

Plugins have to be in the proper scan path so I may as well assign them there from the start.

Some files have to be assigned to folders that make no sense to me.  The people say that (x86) files are for 32 bit versions of plugins but that's where Waves shell stuff goes -- not my idea, that's where Waves' guy put it! Same for  Slate Trigger 2.

Plugins are kept in the usual scan paths in C drive. Bandlab Assistant is 54 MB so it can stay on desktop. Projects go on external drives.

 

I guess another good reason I'm glad to be using win8.1 ...

In firefox's settings I simply select "ask each time" and all is well allowing me to select download folder each download and defaulting to which ever was last used.

9 minutes ago, jonathan boose said:

Yeah, I think Window 7 did that by default.  And previous iterations of Windows IIRC.

That isn't the case with Win 10.

With which browser? The location of a browser downloaded file is set in the browser's settings.

Wow! What an ordeal!

I think it's resolved, but I'm not thrilled.

We installed a wifi dongle, connected to web via phone hotspot.

Uninstalled the driver.

turned off board and disconnected the usb cable.

reconnected usb cable and turned board on.

installed driver which was named the same, but in advanced sound settings now offered a dropdown list allowing me the typical choices and was able to get it stereo and cd or dvd quality. Stereo again at last! ...but no line in option shows, only microphone???

Better, but did I miss something somewhere?

 Thanks!

32 minutes ago, slartabartfast said:

The driver rollback is a Windows process, and would be expected to only affect the driver--it does not affect applications directly.  You could be a lot more precise about whether it might help if you knew the current driver was not correct or if you knew the current version of Windows.  Unfortunately when you allow Windows Update to update your Windows installation, it does not invariably bring it up all the  way to the then current version. Some updates depend on an earlier version already having been installed, and unless you repeatedly run updates you often end up at some intermediate version especially if it has been a while since the last update.  I realize that it can be difficult to provide any granular level of help to a naive user by telephone--so the advice may not be anything you can use. Besides, I have no confidence that your problem has been correctly diagnosed at this point.

 

Gotcha. There is no driver rollback for this driver. So the driver wasn't updated. But it shows only mic input and no (stereo line) so you may be correct and the mono input option has been enabled. Too bad I can’t find it where all pointers lead. Though it might not work, I'm hoping removing then reinstalling the driver will rest this. During this he will be online so we can also try further updates for win10. I do know about updates dependent upon which updates are already installed and could be related.

This is an incredibly difficult situation at every turn...

Thanks again! He's expecting to buy a wifi dongle today.

2 hours ago, slartabartfast said:

If your friend can get connected, it would probably be best to update Win 10 to the current version. The problem described in my first link above (which may or may not be your problem) was specific to version 1703 and was fixed by subsequent updates. 

The driver rollback, if it is available, should not require and internet connection.

When was the update released? He just allowed the update a couple of weeks ago when he had to re-authorize Cake setting this situation into motion. All was well and system working fine.

If I did a rollback, it might affect Cake as well... so I think I'm gonna opt for a wifi dongle and hotspot then uninstall/reinstall the board allowing it to find a driver.

After the upcoming update is released and I get him updated to it using the hotspot, it will get easier with the return of offline authorization...

7 minutes ago, scook said:

If a plug-in has an installer, it should show up in the Apps section of Windows 10 Settings

Older Windows version had it in the Control Panel - Programs and Features section

 

Regardless of how a VST plug-in is removed the CbB VST scanner needs to run so the VST Inventory in the registry gets updated.

 

Thanks scook!

I understand...

28 minutes ago, Mesh said:

Sorry to see that Keni, but I do share your pain. Just this past week, tried to update Win10 (so I could use the latest version of CbB) and caused nothing but problems with the update. Had to revert back to an earlier date and still can't get into CbB...also, messed up the software (Citrix) I use to work from home and had to come into the office today.

Anyway, hope you get your issue fixed.

Thanks Mesh...

I think I've come up with a method/solution.

I will have my friend buy a wifi dongle and connect online via a 3rd party hotspot.

Disconnect the board and uninstall the driver.

connect to hotspot 

connect board and allow the system to install the appropriate driver

Not sure how quickly I can get this done, but at this point it seems a good approach?

29 minutes ago, scook said:

Uninstall is better than simply removing the dll if the plug-in has an installer and the intent is to remove the plug-in from the PC.

An uninstall will not remove files modified by the user and registry entries but usually deletes more than just the dll.

 

 

 

Thanks scook...

I haven’t looked yet but wondering is the uninstall from control panel cake, or a dll specific icon in a unique folder?

I know I can remove the DLLs and re-scan, but I was wondering if there is a "correct" way.

 Thanks 

This is driving me crazy.

 This is driving me crazy.

I found an option listed online under ease of access audio options for enabling mono audio. 

Problem? There are no audio options under ease of access win10pro

Anyone shine a light? This machine changed the driver to mono mic only and no searches find other solutions.

One in Ease of access the other in device manager but both locations do not show the options described in the online info.

Thanks Jonathan...

I understand. I know this current predicament for my friend is not caused by Cake. It was due to being forced to move the pc off location without the board attached as I've not heard of this type of incident from win10 updates.

Thankfully, once I get this resolved and get him updated once more this way, he will be able to use offline Activation at last.

It's an issue I've not run into and without web access I couldn’t manage to change it. My other elements being not having win10 myself so I'm far less familiar with the OS, and my friend is pc illiterate and 3000 miles away without even a cell phone for me to look at anything.

I've now discovered 2 more locations in win10 that deal with forced mono and tonight when he has a cell equipped friend visiting I will explore these.

The problem is stereo playback works fine and the board is putting out stereo. Cake is configured to record a stereo track but records a mono track. Investigation shows the driver as a single mic input with no stereo line input available.

The 3000 mile distance makes it impossible for me to get hands on... sadly

All good ideas except he has no internet so it fails to find any drivers.

But... I just discovered 2 locations specifically related to mono/stereo and will be trying them tonight. He has win10 and I only have 8.1 so locations and options are more difficult for me to locate at times.

it seems there is a mono/stereo setting in accessibility settings where I never thought to look and i just saw online, a setting in the driver settings that also addresses mono/stereo.

I'll post results either later tonight or tomorrow.

 Thanks again! ?

Thanks slartabartfast...

Yes. I know this. We've been running it stereo successfully for an album prior. This got changed by the system during an update.

Currently, the i/o of the board are stereo and the output of the pc is stereo, but even when the stereo input is selected, the recording is mono!

I just discovered an accessibility setting that changes something mono/stereo and I will try this during tonight's work (machine is non-internet in Florida and I'm in Ca so time is always an issue).

Yeah. I still don’t understand why Bandlab finds this a necessity.

For me it is a minor issue, but for others... difficult.

My current predicament:

I have a friend across the country who is totally computer illiterate and no web access... but a friend setup a machine and gifted it to him with CbB and a few basic instructions. Since then that person is no longer involved so adjusting pc etc is beyond difficult.

when CbB reverted to demo mode, I had to have him disconnect and transport his desktop elsewhere for the update. Upon returning with a successful update, it appears win10 in it's glorious updates changed the audio driver not seeing anything connected. Reconnecting his board (mackie profx8v2) now finds a driver that only has a mic input. There is no dedicated driver for this model. Allowing the computer to search for appropriate driver finds nothing. I was surprised expecting a generic available. How to fix this is giving me a lot of grief. I currently search for a file I can download and send him via flashdrive.

So, Please! Give some more thought to the importance and method this issue uses and update accordingly.

No ideas? I’m surprised!