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Yes that seems to be my weakest spot right now. Working on it!

The vocal, just an old ballad sounds so much better to me since this thread started. It's nice when you get what you wish for. Thanks so much folks. I have many plugins but, for waves CLA Vocals and a touch of Breverb 2 or reveberatex64 sound fine to me. I am using the Izoptope stuff for the "printed FX track. This is a good Sunday. Of course I am not done learning and using what's in this thread alone. Thanks again

Thanks. I am copying the thread comments into a word doc. School is fun and needed ? I don't use AutoTune. Not to sound like a jerk but I am a very good singer-. I am sure I waiver here and there, but I want that. weird I guess. Been the lead singe in every band, trio and duo I have been in and also about 30 years of solo, me and an acoustic.

Getting confused now-maybe a better vocal mic-just kidding. I think. The CM5 was great in it's day. Made by Stellar I think and a great copy supposedly of a very famous vocal mic. Actually one of the OLDER forums (Glennbo and others is where I remember reading about this CM5 many years ago. This is the mic, I bought it new when they came out: Stellar CM5 Tube Condenser Microphone (C12/ELAM251 Inspired)

Wouldn't recording an ADDITIONAL vocal track and trying Wills suggestion still leave me with a dry vocal recording (no FX printed). This is a question. I us very few tracks since everything but My vocal and my guitar are live, everything else VSTs Only 3 of them)

Going go look at this right now- I never have. Perhaps after 30+ years I will actually start to learn to use CW a bit better-THAT is my goal here in my older years! Thanks very Much

I know I tend to ramble and OVER explain the issue.. Never on purpose ?

I never said they sound BAD and I certainly know you cannot fix garbage. I am not talking about garbage. Just BETTER than they are. I just have been researching quite a bit about vocals. I mean just putting the Waves CLA Vocals plug with some adjustments in the vocal FX bus makes a world of difference. Thing is I keep reading about (yes OUTBOARD FX) putting a compressor, for instance on the vocals on the way in. sorry I cannot explain things in super record nerd terms, I am trying, I am a guitar player first. Yes, had CW since the 90's. But just used it in the simplest ways since the bass, drums and keys VSTs always sound the way I want and so does my recorded electric and acoustic guitar parts. Hope that explains it a bit more clearly. Just lookin for help, is all. I'll put in the work but I need to read it and\or watch and listen to tutorials-for me anyway!

I need to do some searching on the optimize issues. I would have thought an 11thgen i7, 32GB Hi Performance ram and ALL newer NVMe.M2 samsung drives would be enough. evidently not. It really only happens if I try to use the Nectar 4 advanced asst that states "Customizing the Process". Oh well. Thanks very much for the input!

Hope the title makes sense. I have never tried using plugs (like compression\EQ etc on the way IN of the vocal recording. Just old habits, not good habits. Always recorded clean and then added FX etc later. I imagine outboard compressor etc would be best but I have to use what I have=zillions o plugins Mostly waves and Izotope. Now vocals always come out OK after processing but I know they could be much better. Vocal mic options I have are CM5 large Dia Condenser mic, Shure SM58beta and a few lesser ones. IAH, I want to leave a nice recorded cd for my family and friends. Better late than never. I was always too busy (my excuse for not learning more over 30 years with CW) playing out in bands etc. EDIT: I use midi and VSTS for Drums, Keys and bass-THey always sound fine. My guitar also sounds fine. My recorded vocals are, well-HELP! Thanks

I thought since Ozone 10 advanced, Neutron 4 advanced, Nectar 3 plus, etc never bothered somewhat modern PC nectar 4 advanced would be OK. Evidently not. No refunds of course. Thanks for the reply Treesha

Sorry to have bothered anyone......................................☹️

Works fie on my laptop with Win8.1x64. Also works fine on my Win 10x64 Desktop

Sorry-Venting again!

Jeeezzz Sorry! Just trying to help. I'll stop.

I have signed into my account and signed out over and over . No matter what I do CWB (newest version, my first mistake) says Please sign in to your account blah blah blah Never mind I guess 6th time is a charm

Do you have an old version installed? Anyway, I never UNINSTALLED the CCC i had. After this thread surfaced I tried to open it-NOPE-no good. I downloaded from one of the links above-installed and it opens fine. It open fine for me. I downloaded the versions listed here just for the heck of it.

I opened a project in Splat today. It was nice seeing the old Splat. I loved it. I know CWB has many advancements over it. Just sayin.... Could someone comment on this: If I start a new project in Splat and import the midi and audio files from a recent CWB project WITHOUT any vsts, etc. (just the data) and then saving it with a different name or something. Will that work to keep my new projects safe? Or just opening the project and quickly saving it with a different name in new location? Hope this makes sense. Thanks

Tim I understand. Just like it when "we" have the "choice" whether to buy the new version year after year. Don't mean or try to be a jerk. But my DAW is for my home use as I said. For me. I love CW, as previously stated. But there are some business decisions I do not like and never did. As far as buying the new versions I only did because I wanted to, I didn't have to. The bugs that afflicted many, way back, beginning of Sonar, never affected me. Probably because I never used the program to it's full potential. I am hoping that CW(Sonar, whatever they want to call it) allows me the "choice." That's all! Be Well

Simple, NO, what you are describing is a SUBSCRIPTION. You can see below I went down that rabbit hole. I have since learned. I will not buy a subscription. I could have been very happy with, say Sonar X1. You want the bells and whistles they add then you buy X2, etc, etc. That's really what all the sonars were about-new features. So because we are musicians not ALL OF US are recording studios. I would bet most are just musicians with DAWS. Just a guess. Your basically saying you MUST subscribe or face the bugs that were left in the version they sold you? Listen, I have already stated I upgraded EVERYTIME from I thing it was CW4? I still have my CWPA9 dvd so I am not sure but I did buy every one after that. BTW, you say subscribe whereas I say RENT. I will just buy the first version and after that I will use Reaper or Studio One. Hey it's just my choice. I get that VSTS and windows updates can mess things up but that does NOT happen all the time. I will stay on Win 10 as long as I can-even with my paid versions of 11 pro in my safe. I am not trying to argue or start any BS, but others stated their prefs so I stated mine. I am a player, I have a small home studio in a small extra bedroom. I like to record, I don't make money off of it. well except I do crete backing tracks with CW.

The other difference no one mentioned in the last page or 2 anyway is that Activation must be thru the internet. That is a change. BUT, I will always have the internet until the day I die. So? I would have no problem staying on win10x64 for a long time if that's what it took to keep using this latest CWB. I have PAID for versions of Win11x64 but they sit in a small safe. as stated though, I will NOT SUBSCRIBE to ANYTHING. I have what i need for a long time and for years now I always upgrade and use Reaper, kind of like a failsafe. I have Studio one also. Early version. Doesn't appeal to me too much. So, PLEASE, let us BUY Sonar, not subscribe to Sonar. Just my thoughts. After 30 years i would really love to stick around. In the old days I hung out on the forums alot. Kind of lost that, for me, with the CWB forums. So special reason, just wasn't the same for me. Not in a bad way, just different. Well, Lets Go Sonar++++++ at a competitive price point and all will be Good in CW land ?

I commented about the $499 teaching a lesson because I feel it wasn't , well a great comment. As far as myself, I, have paid for CW, not as long as many of you but I have bought and paid since early 90's thru PLAT and upgrading every single time, never missed one. So over 30 years and counting. Personally I am not worried about the cost but I do draw the line at subscriptions-That I will not do. I actually miss the old days with Glennbo, Susan and many others!

Right. That will teach us---??????

Should have tried this when it was suggested. Duh! What a difference when looking thru my FX options, etc. Very cool! ?

OK just one more thing and I'll be silent. You know this 6 months will still apply? since things like internet is needed and many other changes? Not being sarcastic, curious if this still holds true is all. Thanks for all your replies with info!