Pathfinder

Everything from Rainy Night in Ga-Tony Joe white style to Hollywood Nights by Bob Seger-kind of a screamer. Blues and R&B are where I like to sing and play. Started out playing finger-pickin folk songs after Nam-James Taylor, Croce, stuff like that. Even had a stint in a jug band. Most of the cover bands I was in did what we wanted-we didn't conform to the radio. But we still worked all the time. Many bands like that. Everything from Billy Joel to Ride Like the Wind to Bob Seger, CCR, traffic, Alman Bros and lots of old Soul stuff like dock of the bay. I was always the lead or co lead singer in these bands, trios etc. I prefer Blues and R&B-great for singing for real and playing lots of cool stuff on the guitar. I am a singer 1st, Guitar player 2nd(although I have been playing guitar for over 40 years) and definitely recording engineer in training (on my own) I have had many mics and recorded thru them all. Best mic (money wise) I ever had was the Mohave MA-200, so nothing really high end by studio standards. But My trusty old Stellar CM-5 ((C12/ELAM251 Inspired) I mentioned above was my favorite. Big old tube mic-heavy. But my voice just liked this mic and the mic liked me. I sold it for really NO REASON at all and kick myself for doing it. There is one on Reverb for $500 but I wouldn't take a chance on a mic like that from reverb USED. I do have a powerful voice I guess-loud but growing up singing folk songs I also have a tame voice. I use the mics well. I know when to back up, move up etc. I have watched many youtube videos of mi comparisons but on youtube they all sound the same to me. Right now I am recording using a wave Audio WA-87r2. I don't like it at all on vocals but it is nice on acoustic guitar stuff. All of my recordings are Vocals (me), guitars Electric and acoustic(me), and lots of VSTS for Bass, Drums and keys. Well their you go-my life in a nutshell-

So the thread and question I asked is ignored so you can post what you want? Very logical.

Thanks but I never asked for suggestions. Only asked about ONE mic- period!

Hey duncan I had the original Stellar CM5. I sold it for no reason at all. I would love to have that back. Big mistake on my part. As I stated I am partial to tube mics for MY vocals. Thanks for the info!

Once again, I was NOT asking for recommendations. I was ONLY asking about the Lewitt Pure Tube-Hmmmm? BTW-If I could afford a $4K mic I would love to have one-I cannot ? The Sondelux 251 looks like a great mic!

My mileage definitely varies-My vocals are much better with a tube mic. I have tried many, many mics at friends studios etc. Tube vocal mics just have something that tubeless mics cannot touch imho. But honestly, I was just asking about the Lewitt Pure Tube

Hi Anyone familiar with these vocal mics? Reviews seem amazing. I am thinking of getting one for recording vocals in my home studio. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1765753-REG/lewitt_puretube_es_tube_microphone_with_1.html/overview Thanks Frank

Thanks as always folks. I did really jus want the fabfilter reverb-but the price for 3 (as mentioned above by me comp\EQ and reverb) is double so kind of 1 for free. Just as a note-You do NOT have to just use the AI featured with Izotope. Especially with the EQ and compressors. I most likely will do the fabfilter 3 bundle though. Maybe I can learn more and catch up to John V. with "standard processing tools"................?

I really only asked about Fabfilter since so many videos use them as the tools when explaining recording etc. I also did the trial of the Fabfilter reverb and I did like that. I understand the MAIN difference between the 2, AI versus do it yourself type process. I should have mentioned that I started with Izotope a very long time ago-whenever they started with Ozone I was in. So I have grown use to them. I will end this by saying I am just going to buy the 3 plug bundle and go from there. Thanks for chiming in everyone!

John That is an unfair assessment. My knowledge of the "standard processing tools", may not be as great as yours but I am not an idiot. I don't see Izotope RUINING my mixes. Your mileage obviously is different.

Found this article: Interesting! FabFilter vs. iZotope: Summary The most important distinction between FabFilter and iZotope lies in each company’s core philosophy. FabFilter strives to produce user-friendly workhorse plugins you can use all over your mix. The Pro range, for instance, covers a majority of mixing/mastering needs, including EQ, compression, limiting, multiband compression, and reverb. The Total Bundle is a fantastic all-around kit you can use on every one of your mixes. iZotope, on the other hand, is paving the way for future audio production technology. The forward-thinking pioneers are revolutionizing machine learning and how we can use it to make better quality mixes and masters as efficiently as possible. That said, the bulk of the plugins in Music Production Suite 4 are extremely specialized. You won’t find a Swiss army compressor with iZotope, for example. Instead, you’ll have a variety of ‘robot’ mixing and mastering assistants. In conclusion, I don’t believe there’s a valid FabFilter vs. iZotope debate in terms of one being the best. If you’re looking for a more all-around set of professional plugins, then FabFilter’s Total Bundle is an excellent choice. If you’re curious about intelligent plugins who can analyze your mix and improve it, iZotope is the way to go. FabFilter vs. iZotope: Why not both?

So I have owned most Izotope plugs for years-presently 10 advanced, Neutron 4 adv, Nectar 4 adv and RX advanced- plus others. I cruise youtube often to watch and listen to videos about recording. also have quite a few waves plugs and many others. So many videos feature Fabfilter Q, Fabfilter R 2 and Fabfilter compressor. I do have the Sweetwater card and get the bundle of these 3 for like $6 a month. Am I just wasting my $$$ or are they that good? I have no issues with the $6 a month as long as I am not just being redundant because of the Izotope stuff I have. I get it's a personal choice but just wondering if they have qualities that the others don't have. I can use all the help I can get. with recording.................. Thanks Thanks

Well, still don't have room for the 2nd monitor yet, although I do have the monitor itself-Samsung 27" 4K. It's not as big as my main monitor which is a new LG 32" 4k etc (still not huge I know). So CV was certainly different and I am not sure it is for me-way too many years with TV. But I am giving it a shot for mixing. With 2 monitors I think I would like having both-well I know I would. Going to try this week to figure a way to make room for both. I truly appreciate all the help and comments. You know the real old CW forums were really my first time living and learning on a forum. To this day if asked I would say that the CW forums and the Fractal Audio forums are the most helpful forums I have ever used. CWQ since the 90's and Fractal since 2009. ?

OK then-

follow- was the only way I saw to get the follow topic button again after I posted ?

So I am searching youtube for demos of folks mixing-I have watched a zillion-well almost a zillion. I bought some wave plugin when promotions were on, still are I think. so I have maybe15. I also have around 15 demos of theirs. I asked how do I remove he demos because they are not listed separately in Win10x64 and the waves Central portal thing has no way to do this. I was told that the portal has cleanup option and will remove ALL waves plugins? Then I have to re-install my paid for plugins. I am sorry but that is the lamest thing I have ever heard. I know I can exclude them in CW plug mgr, but so irritating. I bought these on a whim since I own many plugins including Ozone 10 advanced, Neutron 4 advanced and Nectar 4 advanced plus many others. Guess I am really posting to sort of vent at stupid system. BUT, here comes the dumb question, does uninstalling and reinstalling have any effect on my projects that use these plugins? If there is a chance of that then instead I will just exclude them in the cw plug mgr. Also wish someone would create a more robust plug in mgr=I remember someone did way back in Sonar I think. I would pay for one that let me really create what I wanted. I probably do not have near as many plugins as most folks but I do have 504 (that includes all the CW plugins) Thanks

I will see if I can make room for a second monitor-my graphics card and PC will definitely take it-Thanks to all

OK thanks. I am going to see how comfortable I feel mixing with console view- I do like recording in track view-so that's good!

Full disclosure-I have had and used CW Since before CWPA 9, so long time. BUT, big BUT, I never really recorded. I always was playing out in bands but also in duo's and trio's. I used CW for creating my own backing tracks. This is part of the reason I am lacking lots of little details. My question: Now I am ONLY recording- I have a zillion backing tracks saved. I ALWAYS used Track View exclusively. At this late stage (recording only) is it worth trying to switch to using the console view, like I am guessing most folks do for recording? good question for me I think and this is where to ask. Thanks so much folks Frank aka Pathfinder

OK. I sure hope I can ask this correctly. Watched a video and cannot find it now but also nothing was explained real well (for me anyway) Guy had all the expected band instruments (ALL) going to their own individual busses and and also a common bus (say, all instrument bus) so while working on, say, vocals he could (QUICKLY) change volume, eq, whatever of the instruments all at once and NOT effect the vocals. Am I making sense? I would like to be able to do that ( not just because of the vocals) but I don't see how without having to go to each instrument and mute the master send in each one at a time. I need the master active of course to work on the vocals (or would I also give the vocals another separate bus??????. There actually are a couple of reasons I would like to learn how to do this. The only thing I see is to have the special ALL instrument bus have a send to the master bus so when I get down to mastering the hole project the instruments will feed the master and I would then turn off (mute) the ALL instrument common bus. OK I am confusing myself now. Does this ring a bell for anyone? This may be a common "trick?" studios use I don't know. Bottom line: Does anyone else do this or is this something that is not worth the hassle? Of course I could just be crazy! Thanks

duh

I still have my Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 disk ? Plus all the Sonars

Thanks for the Good Luck but I pretty much know what I want and what I can afford-which may not be the same thing. All the tube LDC mics I have owned suited me fine-hence, I want another one and Warm Audio fits the bill for me- This thread has helped convince me of that-which is a good thing! Thanks for the good luck wish-we all need that! ?

My WA -87r2 is basically a wa-67 without the tube-according to Warm Audio!

The wa-251 is one of the mics I am looking at. That and the WA-47 and WA-CX12.