Sidney Earl Goodroe

Just gave the Product Center a spin! Updated the newest version for it and used it to download and install the latest CbB. Pretty nifty! No crashing so far. Although, I saw where Tts-1 will no longer be a part of Cakewalk! I stopped using it myself many years ago but I have a friend that will be devastated by this news. Also, saw on this forum, several people that still love that little plug! Do you think maybe Roland would be up to selling it for a reasonable price? Possibly they could develop it as a VSTi. Just speculation!

Finally, the crickets have chirped! I must thank them for removing that bothersome pop-up from the start screen! It feels a little better now that we have expressed our views on some problems here but someone is listening and took action! THANKS, BAKERS!

Well, CbB has been such a great experience up to now. Who would have foreseen that it would be driven into the ditch this way! I know that they're not worried about losing a small number of users because they will gain a number of new users when Sonar finally drops. I hope that the new users get better treatment than those of us who have been dedicated to this product for many, many years! As I said before, I was so thankful that Bandlab had rescued Cakewalk and offered it free for so long. But now, I have real concerns about what has transpired since this mess as of late. I have and use several other DAWs and I guess I will be seriously considering letting go of my favorite that has been my goto for so long. The silence from the devs is the worst cut of all!

Maybe one of the moderators could make sure the developers see this thread! I remember a time not too long ago if there was the slightest problem mentioned on the forum, it was not long before there was SOME response to us! Now, crickets aren't even chirping!

If you must have a popup, why not a tab to click to choose not to see the popup and continue on to work! Why slow my workflow for almost half a minute to see info that we have known for almost a year? I know a half a minute is sort of ridiculous to complain about but when you are trying to focus intently on your work the last thing you want is a distraction that irritates you. As suggested, put the popup at the closing of the project! I think these two suggestions are viable. The silence from the developers is deafening! Where are you, Noel? Or anyone! At least let us know you are listening and if you intend to do something about this mess!!

I concur with F.J.s post! I have been a dedicated Cakewalk user since 8.5! I have preached the gospel of Cake ever since. They even used my review of the Adaptive Limiter in their advertising for said product! I have a close friend of mine who recently built a hot rod computer last year! He was so proud and bragged about how fast he could start Cakewalk and get to work! Now, he spent all that money and time in order to be stopped and waiting on this miserable popup screen to get to work! He is right now as we speak pushing all his projects in to Studio 1. It's going to be hard for me to convince people that Cake is a viable DAW with all of this messiness going on right now. Things are going to have to change before I can recommend Cakewalk to anyone now! This is a sad time for me. I have not missed one upgrade since 8.5! Now I am disenheartened by what I see happening and have been made to feel as a devoted customer that I don't count anymore! I hope to stay with Sonar when it finally arrives but it sure would be nice to have a good clean experience with CbB in the meantime!!

I am afraid that this situation with taking so long to release the new Sonar along with the pop up screen is starting to leave a bad taste in our mouths towards an otherwise wonderful relationship with CbB!!! Glad you got sorted out with the wifi on your phone. I am in an area in Macon, Ga. where there is only one internet company available in our neighborhood and they ruined the 10 year relationship we had with them. Long story!! Anyway, we have been on cellphone hotspot for about 5 years. Slow but solid for huge files. PLEASE, CBB!!! Stop shooting yourself in the foot and give us some definitive info on Sonars progress AND GET RID OF THIS GOD AWFUL POPUP!!!!! With all due respect and affection!!!

Might be advantageous to keep an older version on the drive! When talks of paying for CbB started, I tried opening a CbB project in Platinum and it opened right up! No, all the new features and plugins were not there but with a rescan and a little bit of ingenuity, I was able to work almost as if I never left Platinum!

Still on windows 10 on desktop and laptop. Pro Audio is on an older desktop that still is running 98! The older desktop serves more as an archive than a working computer. Probably will upgrade to a new computer next year.

I still have Pro Audio 9, Sonar 8, and Platinum on my desktop and they run fine! Not that I use them regularly. I have had clients come back years later to remix or edit projects and they have worked fine.

If we still are battling with numerous bugs in CbB it is going to be hard for them to sell us Sonar for pay when the bugs are still there!!! That may be what the holdup is all about! I just don't like the suspicious behavior of not being completely up front with their potential buyers and user base!

Hi! At the risk of being pounded on this topic once more! Some of us are on fixed income and have to watch every penny very closely. That being said, I will buy into Sonar if they offer a bare to the bones version at an unbelievably low price. I already own almost every plugin that the bakers have offered since Pro Audio 9! It would be senseless to make me buy a new version containing all those plugs. Those plugins are pretty old by todays standards. Maybe offer upgrades or updates of Sonars plugs and I may consider. I know they offered several different versions at different prices before and they are leaning towards that mindset. I, also am upset about the vagueness of the answers concerning the eventual killing off of CbB. They do need to go ahead tell us, outright that they will keep it available or not. Perhaps to unruffle some feathers they could offer CbB for a very, very low price for those of us who have been invested in Cakewalk for so many years. I would be willing, as .many others I'm sure, to bite at that. For now, more crickets on whether or not CbB survives.

This is why I am hoping that there will be a version of the new Sonar at a very reduced price for those of us who still have ALL of the plugs from all these years of using the original Pro Audio, Sonar X, Platinum, etc! I have virtually everything Cakewalk since Pro Audio 9 and don't need all those bells and whistles that a newbie would need! Maybe there will be some new content that will warrant me spending more money on Sonar but it was the fact that CbB was just barebones and my plugs still worked that drew me back to Sonar. Much less it being free! Of course, I have moved on to modern whiz-bang plugs but I don't fancy having to pay again for plugs I already have.

My hats off, Deering!!!

Gee! I got pounded for bringing just this topic up a couple of weeks ago and now....... let the hand wringing begin!!!

I use a great deal of midi as well! Never a problem!

I have used 2 Studio-Captures synced together for 32 ins/20 outs. Had them since 2013 and they have been rock solid!

Btw, We all know they are not free!! Just suggestions.

I have been a devoted Cake user since the 90s! In view of all the confusion over the pay model, I have more and more used the alternates I have which are Samplitude and Mixbus! I can highly recommend Samplitude Suite. For bang for the buck, you can't beat it. It does have a very steep learning curve but it delivers worthwhile results. Yesterday, I got an email from Harrison that a free update was available for Mixbus and Mixbus 32c! This is the first update since SSL bought out Harrison. I don't know if SSL had a hand in developing the new features but I downloaded and installed 9.2 and it is very appealing!! I could see using this as my main DAW if it had a staff view or notation window but maybe that will come in time. Those are my suggestions because I use them alongside Cake on a weekly basis. Hope this helps someone.

Lord Tim mentioned a "rent to own" option for the upcoming Sonar release. Is not that the same as subscription? If you opted to rent Sonar, would it continue to work if you paid it off? I was always happy to just pay upfront and still have my older versions of Cakewalk products all the way back to 1990s!! Platinum is still on my working computers. I wish they would at least give us a ballpark figure of the price so those of us who are strapped for cash can make some sort of decision as to staying with Sonar or doing as I am doing. I am currently porting my projects in to my other DAWs so if the bottom falls out, once again with Sonar, I will be prepared! I am preparing for the worst while keeping the faith that Meng and Noel will watch our backs!!

Thanks for the reply, Noel! Didn't expect to hear from upper management!?

Advice taken!

Thanks, Will.!! The family here at Cake would surely be missed!! You along with the rest here on this forum have been absolutely the best! Hopefully, the price of Sonar will be affordable and all this worrying will have been in vain!

My last question is very important! If I buy a new computer after Sonar is released, will the last free version of CbB be available to me for installation on my new computer? As I understand it, CbB Free will no longer be available for download? I hope that clarified what I was asking. BTW, thanks for the quick response!

Let me get this straight for myself. The last version of free CbB will still operate as usual and will be authorized every so often from here on out. It will no longer be available for download for new users from then on? And most importantly, if I purchase a new computer, I will not be able to download and install CbB once Sonar and Next is released? Please ?, Give me simple straight answers! I am grappling with having to leave CbB behind after all these years of using Cakewak, X version, then Platinum! I, truly love Cake and am saddened at the possibility of ending my almost 30 year relationship with my favorite DAW. I use other DAWs but I am a true Cakewalk fan. Please, respond!