Brian Walton

Pro version you have more flexliblity on some configuration and defering updates. But certainly look it up and see what is important to you.

Obviously a capable machine. But unless you need the portability, a Desktop would likely be cheaper and last longer at similar specs. Also $1300 for a machiene that doesnt' even come with Win10 Pro (just home) seems pretty steap.

That isn't the same thing as authorizing it to the PC. If you don't believe me. Disconnect from the internet. Reboot your computer (don't reconnect the internet), then try to add the VST to a project. You will get a no internet connection error. The "cloud licence" is only a temporary authorization to the computer. Once you disco from the internet and reboot...poof...authorization gone. You have to connect to the internet again to re-authorize it.

It uses the PC software, but the option to authorize it to the PC itself doesn't exist. icon with the "PC" is greyed out (along with the 1st gen Ilok dongle optino which is the 2nd icon)

Sounds good, but the 1 seat and you can't authorize it to the compter Ilok manager locally is pretty annoying. Authorized to a dongle, but usually I authorize the other one to a computer that I intentionally don't connect to the internet or use a Dongle/USB hub with for portability. Seems like a really dumb authorization scheme and limitation if you are doing customers a favor by giving it away. (IMO)

I'd say it is worth testing. It has the basic interface and also hidden tweaks when you want to go deeper. No ilok or crippling license scheme either. Wish it did "binson" but covers a lot of other types pretty well and not a resource hog. But the soundtoy you already have, assuming the full version, covers a lot of ground already.

It astounds me the thread even continues after someone reveals the terrible model like this. These guys need to fix a fundemental trust issue with their paying customers. I don't care how good the product is, that model is absurd and there is no way I'd buy it even at $5. (my opinion).

Well that depends. The free version (which is very full featured) doens't require anything. The paid version has more than one authorization system available from what I understand. I'd suggest a deeper dive to see if it really is a problem for you. Honestly most pros don't even need the "paid version" https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=90256

Resolve is far more system dependent. It can be very stable, but you need the right hardware to support it properly (and OS as well).

I thought Drum Core's 20 gig library was excessive (and that contains loops, not just the samples). 60gigs is pretty absurd. I do appreciate and use the Grand Piano they gave us though.

+1 amazing for the money. Also own all 3 on Windows and a few extras from the store. Shortcuts and layout are very similar to Photoshop for Photo for anyone thinking about test driving it.

FYI - Boz Digital Labs has: The Hoser, +10 DB Compressor, and +10 DB Equalizer as Pro Channel Modules Part of those are currenlty on sale. The best deal is when the bundle of all 3 of those goes on sale though (sometimes at $60 for all 3).

Not sure what went wrong, but it is absolutely VST3 64 bit on my machine...and those always default to the "vst3" folder.

Installed on more than one computer with no need for ilok despite what the checkout process demands an ilok ID. Mine suggested 2 downloads, which seems like a poor customer service model. That said, I try to backup installers and if this one really works without further authorization, that makes it more tolerable.

Stock photo they have used for a long time. it also has the Softtube FET Compressor in the right hand of the image which has always been an expensive add-on. I don't think you will get any answers on the release or hold up. The plugin was never in the "package" and was usually a separate purchase other than that one window of opportunity to get it for free. There are other plugins that were part of Platinum I have that I wouldn't have otherwise as a paying customer during that time period.

Like I said, it depends on the value of this product to you I think $30 is too expensive for just about every WAVES plug-in (Omni Channel is an exception). But gladly paid $50 for Scaler 2. For me, it creates way more value to the music creation process than any of the 20 something WAVES plugins I have that are easily replaceable with something else. To you, it might be worthless for the way you create.

If WAVES made it, the regular price would be $399. Honestly if just about anyone else released it the normal price would be $99+. Look at the competition, Captain Chords...you have to be connected to the internet for the thing to even work. You never see Valhalla run a "sale" it is because they established a very fair market price, not any different here other than the fact they are throwing everyone that refuses to pay "retail" a bone, giving them a chance to buy it on sale.

They launched the upgrade price at $19 for a limited time, then it went up to $29...not sure how long it was at that price, but it is currently at the $19 price. And the $49 new Scaler 2 price was only right around the time of launch, pre-order time I believe.

The price is literally the best it has ever been...including last years sale in order to actually get v2, so yes, I'd consider it a BF sale. If the price is the lowest it has ever been, the expectation even on BF isn't necessarily lower than "last BF." The only way to get this price previously was pre-order pricing where you both had to wait and were not quite sure if the product would be stable. Or to buy v1 during the holidays last year and then wait MANY months to then buy Scaler 2 upgrade during a small window, and with the software showing some pretty decent sized bugs in Cakewalk at the time. Therefore this deal is looking pretty good for any new comer in my mind. Depends on your needs as the value it provides you. In my workflow, "the other stuff to buy" either collects dust or I have a viable replacement for it. Nothign in my workflow replaces Scaler 2 adequality. But it also isn't software everyone will fall in love with. I'm a musician/guitar player. I never formally learned music on a keyboard and this software help with Chords and ideas that go beyond what is reasonable on a fretboard. It helped renew my interest in recording my own tracks as I took a multi-year break from playing instruments.

Perspective here $49 for a new customer is just about as cheap as it is ever been for Scaler 2. Even those of us that got it with the BF/Holiday sale last year then had to pay an upgrade price when v2 came out. Even with the generous loyalty discount the all in price was within a $ or so of this price. Don't remember the conversation rate at the time, but it was basically $29 + 20 give or take on the exchange rate. Doesn't seem like much of a "percent off" but the software already has a very reasonable everyday price for what it offers. Have you not given it a Demo?

A $100 + min order? ? Where is Plugin Boutique when you need them?

Indeed, finally! Hopefully they changed the sound too. They are light years beyond where the were when they launched it.

I miss the $1-2 soundspot days....$5 is pretty ritzy.

+1 I think the interface could use a revision but find it very powerful/helpful and glad I picked it up on sale a while back. Pretty sure it was below these BF prices though.

They also have a clipper coming out tomorrow.