Brian Walton

This is lame. Period. Exponential audio plugins they want us to buy $300 or $400 to keep up-to-date? They talked about keeping these products relevant for years. Neo is cool but it is a massive CPU hog by comparison. Trash I never thought was very useful and have but never used BeatTweaker. Iris is farily surprising as while it is old, it is still very processor intensive. I'm not concerned with updating for more features, but with both Windows and MAC making major changes that does have concerns for future compatiblity. We have already seen VST2 and 32bit be retired in what wasn't really that long of a term.

It took a few hundred bucks and a number of years. Tortoise shell is the best material out there, but basically illegal to aquire at this point. Used to be legal decades ago. What I've lanted on myself Blue Chip Model https://shop.bluechippick.net/tad80-1r/ I also like this one for feel but can be dark sounding....love the added thickness though https://shop.bluechippick.net/tad100-1r/ Vpick but adding a custom "ghost rim" edge https://v-picks.com/shop/ols/products/b-sharp The Blue Chip when I'm doing more clean work, V-Pick for some dirty electric and want more pronounced attack. Can't stand thin picks like the afformentioned .73 Tortex, it isn't just the feel, but the tonal qualities and dynamic range control.

Yikes, I think $31 was already a bit high. They haven't said how long the delay will be. They noticed bugs before the beta and seems delayed until they sort that out. I think we are already 7 days out and no ETA.

Yep, which I think is fairly terrible because now that they cancelled the ability to sign up for it, either you are paying crazy amounts of money to keep it going or you get a few vouchers that expire in a single year knowing they won't release that many jems you don't have or couldn't have gotten cheaper. I signed up really to get the EQ and may get another voucher or two as the gamble on something great that is to be released.

Anyone else a little annoyed the Kirchhoff EQ release is delayed?

Suposed to be a low freq saturator, so I'd put it in the mojo box catergory. This adds a few more bells and knobs but that is the gist of it.

I'm wondering where they are going to put the retail on this one. I'm not really interested in buying it but curious since it is modeling some pretty affordable gear in the scheme of things. You can get a real one for like $600 if you look around enough.

I also don't buy into the but it will replace the over verbs I have mentality. Yeah, are you going to sell the other software verbs and actually get a franction of what you paid back? I've got quite a few but if I sold them I'd probabably get like $40 total for what have a "retail price" of well over $1K. MTurboReverbLE, R4, Nimbus, Phoneix, IKM Sunset Sound, all the Lesser IK verbs, Abbey Roads (can't sell becuase I didn't WUP), EOS2, Arturia Plate, PSP Plate, XenoVerb, to name a few. If these were actual pedals zero problem using this replace mentality as those have actual monetary value on the used market.

What is the CPU hit though? Always a consideration for reverb, imo. Also I know it wouldn't be in the 90% replacement range across music production for me even though it has plenty of "types" of verbs.

I grabed this plus 31 other plugins for a total of $80 last year during the group buy and got an HD2 interface also in the same deal. https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/trspacedelay/ $30 doesn't sound like the greatest deal to me at the moment. ? My previous comment was really more about the fact that $30 on a $99 plugin in most cases these days is an every day sale kind of situation...the norm if you will. And anything limited edition I'd have to wonder what support is like in 10 years on it.

$30 for a limited edition plugin they don't think is good enough for sale year round sound like a marketing cash grab ploy to me.

Good deal on MDrummer if you are smart enough to figure out how to use it. Seems like a robust package but I haven't gotten a lot of use out of it yet as most other drum VSTs seem more intuitive.

Had a couple of the pedals in the past but got rid of them. Would love to get the Murf In a plugin if they ever drop it to the $20 or less level. ?

I'm curious about the CPU hit with this thing. I've used the Strymon Blue Sky (it is kind of clinical/hi-fi sounding). And it seems like they put emphasis the chips/processor used as being substantial. when you can get a Blue Sky pedal for $200, it seems pretty absurd to charge the same for the big brother in VST format that will be worthless in a few years where the pedal will keep its value. Good idea to put out a plugin version, but price point puts it in a place where only Strymon fanbois are going to dive in. Just look at MTurboReverb on sale and compare the features (and sound) as an example. Audiority's verb is on sale for $30 and goes lower than that every year. While I wouldn't say it is Strymon algorithm level, it is good and does have lots of the more "creative" verb styles in it.

Leaving this here in case PA decides to change their mind: Curious what changes we will see at release compared to the current demo for Kirchhoff. It seems ok on the CPU (but more hungry than MAutodynamicEQ or Toneboosters EQ4)

I've done the read up. The qeustion is what is the practical use what can it do that EQ4 can't. The fundemental dynamic EQ stuff is there across both, EQ4 has per band M/S as well as saturation controls (something DSEQ3 doesn't have, correct?). It has a clean well thought out interface. You get into something like MAutodynamicEQ and people wax poetic about the fact you can make it do anything but in practical use it can be quite difficult for the average person to set up the "advanced" features and thus provides little to no extra value to a normal person (I own it too). TBProaudio also has the geq12 which at $80 seems overpriced, IMO. DSEQ3 seems more like more of a limited use "fix it" type of tool than an essential everyday workhorse EQ to me. With that being said, what is it you are dealing with that DSEQ3 is needed above and beyond the capabilites of EQ4, etc?

I had the channel strip on my list of interests for a long time, on paper all the features are there with good flexibility, as I demo'd it, quickly came the the realization I'd never use it over something like the AMEK 9099. The problem with tbproaudio I think is actually the price, each plugin you have to ask yourself is it really worth that much more than you can get and alternative for? Is it even worth what the alternative is? The pricing doesn't seem to get discounted and until the euro fell to the USD value they felt a little high. EQ mentioned below is a good example, is it better than Toneboosters? Which costs half as much or less?

I do wish it had options to let you download only the Mic Pairs you want. But that many mic combinations with enough articulations for every note in high resolution does take up space. At least 6 sets of mics, I think most of not all are L/R so 12 mics or so worth. One man's bloat is another mans "this is the only grand piano I'll ever need" It is the best sounding Piano VST I've got that is for sure. Lower RES with only the mics I use would have been fine for me though. Also only came out of Beta recently. While it has been availabe to even LE owners for a while, they also considered it beta and in my experience it was beta with plenty of little bugs for sure. Not sure if it is rock solid yet or not.

This is the only time I've ever seen the web site work properly in the likley ~10+ years I've been using Computer Music Magazine. Time to download what you own for a change!

Note if you are buying this (i.e. you don't already have MSoundFactory LE or the full version) MSoundFactoryLE is currenlty on sale for the same price as this single instrument so buy that instead to get it plus everything else! https://www.meldaproduction.com/MSoundFactoryLE Also throwing out my referral code out there for any new user for another 20% off MELDA31209027 This one would be worth it, IMO given how good that piano sounds.

I generally like tbproaudio but must have overlooked this one as I don't remember seeing it. Looks good on paper and interface layout but no first hand experience. If you want to pin to desktop for a number of instances my first instinct would be download the demo and get a sense of the scaling options. Other plugins I've tried of theirs do have % scaling. Looks like a legit alternative without testing it.

These are at least installed (also SSL Comp not pictured), but have quite a few more NLS, Omni, SSL Channel got replaced with PA plugins (I have all the channel strips but Amek Console 9099 is the go to) H-Comp - depends on the job but (PA, Toneboosters, Melda, IKM) J-37 tape (A few options while IKM Tapes are way more recourse hungry, they also sound better to me) SSL Comp = PA options Sibilance is pretty good but Melodyne Studio is much more powerful (and expensive). I'd just use PA Lindel Desser if I didn't have Melodyne and was tyring to get away from WAVES non-sense. Berzerk Distoriton was free - lots of options to replace that one. (also note that most WAVES plugins sound fine overall. The regret is single authorization, pricing (even on sale), WUP that means no support after a year unless you buy the plugin again, no updates that are not paid ones, and treating customers poorly with the afformentioned practices and until recently none of them even resized).

Those would be at the top of my list of regrets. Only one I have I don't regret is the background noise removal for vocals that came out not long ago. All others are no longer used and take up scanning time and are worthless to resell as I'd have to pay WUP and then get someone else to pay more than that for them which is impossible.

This is one of the only ones that comes to mind. Those in the OP, I'd honestly disagree with BF pricing. Most people are not paying $150+ for a sample library these days. It isn't the early 2000s anymore. (Yes some do but there are tons of options for fairly cheap). I like Valhalla DSP but $50 no longer feels like BF pricing when you can get amazing verbs for $10-30 regularly. $50 seemed like a bargain years ago, today not so much. While not every single day, I'd say Plugin Alliance is on a every month BF schedule for those on the mailing list. We saw so many lust worthy plugins for $15 so often people got burned out. Last year's BF didn't offer much, but we had so many deals leading up to it who cared?

Yes, it is sad, I've never used the free MWavesFolder but yet keep thinking well maybe I should pay to get the "MB" version as more in my melda collection is a good thing, right? I also think that this one adds the new GUI options that the free one wouldn't have. Which in turn might make me more likely to actually use it.