Brian Walton

Yes, sometimes that happened and they would course correct, but those low cost UA ones they were well aware of being offered for free 1 at a time. When they would reset the vouchers it became common for people to get all of those within a year for free. They did this many many times and therefore was not a mistake. I considered these the entry point to buy their other products that never were free, of which I do have a few. And good luck getting anyone to actually pay the $20 transfer fee for them even if you gave away the license, let alone try to sell them

Well other than the Lo-Fi one the rest listed could be picked up one at a time for free when they did $20 coupons with no min spend. They knew people would utilize the coupons for the free-bees.

At this price, I can't imagine going this route over TONEX. Granted there are not that many Eden specific captures, but there are other brands out there:

It is useful if you have dialing and a music/sound track separately. make sure the DAW or NLE you use is compatible with the routing it requires to function properly. Give it a trial, pretty sure they run fully functional ones for a few days or similar.

Looks like a MAAG EQ4 emulation with a decent UI. Wonder what band they set the high air one at.

I think I got additional authorizations for it for not that much more. $20 is still a good deal and frankly makes lots of other PA plugins obsolete.

Well those of you complaining about being able to get Amex9099 for $20 are simply off base. I get that lots of the deals are crap, but there are a few in there that are worth it.

Yeah, exactly I do use lower level clipping, saturation, emulators, etc. But I'm not someone pulling out an Tonebender MKII and slapping it on a vocal track, etc which some people who use "distortion" do. I didn't find anything in Trash to be pleasing saturation, which I do use a lot -so in my tool box it was "harsh digital distortion" tool, which I don't tend to use.

I don't use real distortion all that often, but I also didn't understand the hype around it - everything I used it on sounded worse. For people that really use heavy distortion in the box maybe it works for that kind of harsh digital distortion thing which I'm not interested in. I use distorted guitars of course but I'm not adding ITB plugins to make it happen.

Yep, I've owned a number of originals (and still have a few boutique versions - which I like better - such as options to remove the tone stack which makes them much more open sounding). And the plugins I've tried lack the harmonic complexity of the real deal. TONEX is at least very close to the tonal range.

Yeah, I have lots of their stuff and like the authorization system. I ran a demo before and it didn't match my real world captures I did with TONEX (which I can use in a pedal as well as ITB), so easy pass at $20 for me.

Yep, with multiple variants of the circuit style. Honestly can't image it is better than some of my TONEX grabs of a Triangle and RAMS head variants. Though you do have to grab on Advanced settings to get the grain structure accurate. Haven't compared but Nembrini also makes a free one: https://www.nembriniaudio.com/collections/free/products/big-stuff-harmonic-distortion-sustain I can't imagine paying $19 for an in the box emulation of a fuzz pedal that can't be used as an actual pedal, but that is just me.

I love the "flat theme" idea, but I do think the color options available need work. Hopefully we see more updates on this front or the ability to modify. My theme in CbB is a whole lot easier on my eyes (which is a flat theme also) then these color scheme in the new Sonar box. The base of the Light Grey theme is fine, but the bright orange for text and buttons, etc plus almost matching gray faders just isn't ideal.

I thought I was done with impulse purchases...until I used this yesterday.

I've been using the apps weekly for 7 years now. Hard to believe V2 came out in Nov 2022. I bought it early on hoping to see some big updates. Honestly not sure anything updated since v1 has been important to me (other than I've used the B&W LUT pack a number of times - but since I plan to continue to use it figure they need some development money. I do have some concern they haven't done any real AI dev work. The reality is something like AI select tools can be a huge productivity booster that has nothing to do with "artistic" control.

Win7 was only decommed 3 years ago (and 2 months).

There is no deal here, so why the 1 year thread bump? (and yes, I already own v7)

Ironically I just purchased the new Three-Body Technology Cenozoix Compressor as it was the only plugin released in almost a year that caught my attention as a valuable addition. (granted I didn't pay close to retail thanks to a forever 29 I'd been sitting on something worthwhile to use for)

It is a mystery as it is clearly working for some companies. (per my Drum Core 4 example above, unfortunately some plugins with ilok don't have a full blown offline installer one can backup)

I've been working in the DAW world for a couple decades now, and as someone who didn't adopt WAVES early on, honestly I don't ever remember my tools being stuck to one authorization. The only ones I've had that do this are somewhat recent (Exponential audio- which is also ilok). And honestly when I started, one authorization at a time wouldn't have been a total deal breaker, as most people didn't own multiple machines.

I'll add that I have Drum Core 4, not a cheap VSTi by any stretch. Got the ilok authorizations but there is no longer any way to install it, so it becomes worthless once you upgrade a computer.

I have a couple iloks, but there are plenty of reasons why I sympathize with the haters. Honestly the only system I like is the one that treats the user as a law abiding citizen and doesn't have some sort of authorization method. But 100% off line with license files and no limited authorizations is also acceptable. Ilok doesn't meet those specifications. I'm sure you have heard the anti ilok rants, you either get it or you don't. It is helpful for reinstalls compared to other similar limited authorization methods.

We also are in a post pandemic world where we all bought far more than we needed and the companies were overvalued because of it. And when you sell to PE, they want more profit and growth and anyone actually in the industry should have known the down hill decline was coming.

They will certainly try to upsell us on something that costs more than $10, like the bundle. If you are not in the ecosystem yet, even a $10-15 isn't a no brainer for everyone as it is iLok based and they use a ecosystem installer. Compressors are a dime a dozen. And while this one might be pretty good, I won't pretend like it is a $150 value. Even at $10 I would have passed. At free I'll at least grab it.

The install size for the version is that large but I think we need to be clear that the Installer itself that you download - is not the entire installer: Thus to the point - NO, they do not give us a full off-line installer type of situation, but they do give you a program to run that then goes out to the internet to install from a server that may or may not exist in 10 years. (just like the authorization server might not either)