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Free to be a slave to Native Access = easy pass.

This is not really a deal since it requires a sub

I never update NI libraries.  Easy to miss the fine print and having to download to use in Kontakt 6.  I still like it better then 7 or 8.

53 minutes ago, MusicMan said:

I think that philosophy is completely fine and I get it.

For me, I'll often use a really set of nice open back headphones and the sound can be really immersive and in some ways, a quality you can't actually get from the real instruments. Especially when it comes to some of the reverbs and other modulation effects combined with higher quality VIs. So the fun is from a really nice lush sound, as well as playing the instrument (on MIDI controller), so you don't get that tactile feel and maybe the true to life quality and sound of the real instrument, but you get something amazing in it's own right. Often layered sounds that can't even be created by physical instruments.

How we forget that is how people listen to music or the speaker on their phones.

I'm find more joy in playing real instruments since you don't have to boot them up, wait for the plugin scan, ect.  I have an old Meinl Weston convertible marching tuba next to me. I put the mouthpiece in, maybe add some valve oil and done. Same with all of the other instruments laying out.  No clicking, scrolling.

The only thing I can't stand about headphone is those covers.  Annoying to replace, or mess with alternatives.

1 hour ago, MusicMan said:

I totally get that and it's pretty valid. Some stuff I buy purely just for enjoyment and playing. I don't always care about it outside of the the DAW and sometimes that extra quality just has a better feel to it and it makes it more enjoyable, so sometimes it's worth it for that alone for me. I do also pass on some stuff due to taking up too much disk space as well though.

I can't really apply that to VIs.  It's just sounds moving on a drive.  A Bach 1C,3D, 6C, feel different when playing a trumpet.  No sample library will ever reveal that.  It is the same with many pianos, guitars, any real instrument.  So the feel in not in the instrument but the means of carrying them when it comes to VIs.. 

 To some my philosophy would be considered blasphemy.   

2 hours ago, MusicMan said:

That's the thing though .. they already have it. If they did nothing but simply improved the installer and just simple QA / minor tweaks, they could sell ST for years to come, with little to no development. It's already a known product, so advertising needs would be minor and even just the odd marketing campaign would keep sales ticking over. I have wondered if it's due to bandwidth requirements for downloads, but even those new pianos are large! Come to think of it... Don't think I'll buy them now as they might disctinue them for the same reason if that was the case 😂

And if it's not they might discontinue them anyway, so I'll probably given them a pass now and not buy them even though the one I've got I like!

I don't get the appeal of large pianos that are larger than a handful of Linux distros.  Sure they sound good but  outside the DAW world a listener doesn't care.

This is not an Izotope everything bundle but a mixture of plugins from the 3 headed monster.

It's an easy pass.   Licensing is not consistent either.  When they got those Expo verbs the licensing is different.. You can install Izotope on every machine you have while those verbs require iLok and I think they are single seat.

I get the dumping of Syntronik.  

I never cared for any Sampletron library for other romplers but IK version is so far above the rest.  

I guess the nest frontier for ST is encourage users to create their own stuff and lessons how to.

Then again maybe they realize the rompler thing is a saturated market and not spend resources on it.

or do Modo stuff which is more modeling.  I love the Modo Bass.  It doesn't dent a drive either

it's not like it will be a missed opportunity - they come back

On 8/29/2025 at 7:45 PM, Brian Walton said:

They also had to release an update right after an update release on the same day after people had been beta testing this for a bit already.  

For perspective, between the announcement release, the 2nd release and then the actual fixed release.  I downloaded over 18 GIGs from them to get my computers operational with the new update.  Imagine someone doing this on a poor connection or even  a metered one.  Not to mention a couple hours of my time doing the installs and waiting on the fairly slow downloads due to the limited bandwidth servers (not the connection getting to said servers).  

I'm not complaining because the product itself is so good, but I understand the critique.  

That's why I prefer the option account direct downloads instead of an app.   I'm only allowed 1.5tb a month without getting charged extra,  Downloading EW HO triggered my ISP of reaching a limit.  That also happened a few years ago with TS Max by downloading on 3 systems instead of downloading from my account.   

On 8/30/2025 at 5:14 PM, Bass Guitar said:

It wasn’t me who made this up. Get out there on the internet and see what all the people who once were here are saying. 
This forum has become heavily censored so if this is your only information about Bandlab you need to think outside the box. 
I love Sonar and Im super happy that Platinum is actually way better than I remember it being. 
Hopefully over time things will change and this bad faze will be behind us and we can laugh about it and say “ do you remember back when?” 

I have hopes after they test the waters they offer a non sub option.  Acronis tried this but now they also offer non sub.  Most sub prices on anything I rarely agree with and they do go up.   I find it annoying people justify a price comparing it to food items on just about everything. Most of those are "luxury" items and I can do without.  I can also do without certain DAWs since I seem to collect those like plugins.  I stopped using Sonar heavily after 4 but still bought licenses because of their licensing.   If that happens again I will buy the newest Sonar.

2 hours ago, GoncaloL said:

Ok..I get that those new Spitfire owners are desperately trying to reduce percentages on their usual sales.

But right now i think their sales strategy is a complete mess. Why bother your costumers with a specific product sale email that they could have bought cheaper literally 3 or 4 days ago with their previous sale.

sad to see what is happening here..

I think users are overwhelmed with choices.

These sales never make sense but how many of them do these days.

I'm happy that they haven't ditched Kontakt all together.

I wasn't impressed as much with the latest Komplete Ultimate.  Some of it was loops put in Kontakt.  The best part was upgrading to Kontakt 8 since I couldn't stand 7.

I don't think I've ever really dived into Komplete other than the installation.  It's that habit of always using 3rd party.  

16 hours ago, cclarry said:

I found a 20% off code - 8DIO20 - which made it $59.20 which pushed me over the edge.
No way I could pass that up!

Code worked as now I bought Atheria

enshittification

12 hours ago, cclarry said:

I don't have any of the choirs in this bundle, and I only have Majestica Standard, so I'd be gaining about 20 libraries
for $66.  What do I need them for?  Why do I need them?  And yet...they're sitting in my cart begging 
me to pull the trigger...

Do it.  I;m thinking of making a thread about the Epic Bundle.

I just unzipped the Epic Dohl and watched the video.

Maybe I will take all of these libraries and create one project.  

Mine would bring down the net

5 hours ago, Nitrate Audio said:

looks intriguing? anyone use this? thoughts?

 

No but it more of a development type tool.   It comes with Live's Suite

38 minutes ago, cclarry said:

I don't have any of the choirs in this bundle, and I only have Majestica Standard, so I'd be gaining about 20 libraries
for $66.  What do I need them for?  Why do I need them?  And yet...they're sitting in my cart begging 
me to pull the trigger...

The percussion...........that was my reasoning

1 hour ago, fjz said:

If you were to pick just one of the 3 choirs to install, which one would it be?

No hoarder could answer that question.  To answer that would be the one I don't have and most like is the Aetheria Choir.   My favorite libraries are always the ones I don't have.

1 hour ago, jayeyehaich64 said:

Same price as that 'newish' Musio or whatever it is was going for recently, and not as low as it was a few months back, lol

They're not really in my wheelhouse, and I have a lot of stuff that will do whatever is needed to be done with those strange zebra, pedestrian crossing looking things,but you know how it is . . . ,

which of those 2 would be best, UVI Falcon or that Musio thing? any opinions welcomed.

Falcon is more of a synth, Musio is more for orchestra

Well, well, I caved in on the epic bundle more for the percussion and missing a choir

https://8dio.com/products/adagietto-vst-au-aax-kontakt-instruments-samples?variant=41309921280200

I like these less bloated string libraries.

One of the reasons for these sales is to get you to crossgrade to Soundpaint.

Hint of what's Coming this Fall from Izotope

Easy answer - for the end user this thing called confusion

7 hours ago, cclarry said:

I have it and like it (not Ultra) and I also have 8W Version (formerly exclusive version).  It can be useful in the proper setting...very tweakable also being Kontakt
driven.  It's certainly not the best, and it won't be as fast as things like "The Score" or "The Orchestra", but if you do Orchestra, and know what your doing, it can
be decent.

I think today is the last day to get East West Fantasy Orchestra with the 10% off with code LABORDAY2025 at APD if that interests you
https://audioplugin.deals/product/eastwest-hollywood-fantasy-orchestra-bundle/

I had the 8W version and went back to Majestica.  The only real difference was the bitrate