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Great work on this Matthew!

Now that's customer service!

Whatever it is, it's really big.

Glad ur ok Dave.......Many more sunrises and moons to you. I mean that in a good way.

21 hours ago, Canopus said:

Change your avatar back to Gromit and I promise you’ll feel much better. Yes, I miss him.

Thanks Canopus. That and a Canopus always helps.

Ya know looking at Meh from the outside it doesn't look so good. Thanks Jim( and everyone else) for the UnMehing. I'm not Mehing around any more. Sorry dental work....I'll eventually be able to talk.

Cakewalk could come out with the most astounding stuff ever devised for a DAW. Could shine buttoxes without wax and I guarantee within 3 months or less someone would be wondering what's next.

Meh...

Can someone unMeh me?

It's a nice library. Still on the fence. Mainly because I haven't recently mixed any material that would use it. 50% off looks good though. I have the dough for it. That isn't the issue here. I think I've been on the deals forum for so long that 200 quid seems high to me. I know it isn't for a lib like this. I don't know what the future holds. I might tend to use more of this in the future and by then it might be back up there again and I'll be smacking myself I didn't buy it. I'll need a hard drive too. I have 4 almost full drives.

50% of a million is a lot of dough. 50% of 500K is a lot of dough..........makes 50% of 400.00 look a lot better. Keep going, I'll talk myself into this.

I admit I don't like LUFS very much.  I've had to really adjust my gain staging to the limiter. Does often seem to need a second master after the white glove work to get LUFS right. The first time I ran a mix through a LUFS standard before master I almost couldn't hear it. I mean, sure you can always run your studio levels up a bit higher at the monitor amps. 

I think they could have come somewhere in between for levels. LUFS feels like I'm neutering my mixes.

4 hours ago, TheSteven said:

Real change must come from within. 
Try some steps, avoid things that are hard to reverse like face tattoos or nose removals.
Your mum is still mad at me from what we tried last time.

Did you ever feel really misunderstood? ?

I came so close to pulling the trigger on this my finger was all sweaty. I even began squeezing lightly. I guess if a person is into remixing, MPC etc might make sense. Seems to be the market they're going after. Doesn't make sense for me.  

I had wondered what the new things were going to be in the new version. This looks like it.  CbB makes acid loops, has the matrix and I seldom ever touch it.

I wanted to like it. Just can't thus far. Not for what I do.

A Big THANK YOU Hidden Symmetry and Rob for your comments!This helps a lot. I looked at some demo video for Albion 1 and was pretty impressed. Seems a good library in combination with some of the others.  I was under the impression that  VL used an iLok dongle which it apparently doesn't and instead uses something more proprietary. This in combination with the Steinberg replacement in disaster solution is enough to tilt me away from VL. I don't make any income form any of this so far, so for me it isn't worth that hassle.

Spitfire is practically a household name among cinematic music composers. I watched a few of their YouTube videos. I'm impressed with what it can do!

TheSteven can you spare some change? 

Thanks for this review Rob.

I believe I seen  an ad for Vienna in my email also on sale.  I don't really intend to compose for film, plus I already have a lot of the cinematic swoohes, rises and such in Komplete, has some Heavyocity multi stuff in it which I seldom ever use. My main intention would be realistic orchestra mock ups of my compositions  and possibly backing tracks for my violin.  

For a guy like me who has Amadeus which is an excellent writing tool,  Hyperion strings and all the strings included with Komplete, Kirk Hunter Diamond ( I know it's getting long in the tooth but it works still). I have a few dedicated violin libraries including Joshua Bell which doesn't make a lot of sense for me I guess. I'm supposed to be playing my violin lol. Would Vienna be a better overall bet in your opinion? 

I missed this one. Probably just as well. I think it's an awesome value at this price. The hardware unit was something like 10K. The software version once sold for 349.00 US. Now it's down to 129.00.  This sale had it at 49.00. I was tempted too for what it does. Please tell me the sale is over. Otherwise I might need to explain to myself why I bought it....of course I would have had a viable explanation.

700 tracks??????? Did you accidentally type an extra zero here?

Thanks Craig. I was successful in the mastering. Sounds pretty darned good!  I only added light compression where needed and EQ in the mix stage. Final EQ and limiting in the master stage. Studio One can't be beat for this application. I had forgotten how easy it is. Drop the tracks in and they all line up in order. Low cpu hits. Master. Burn disc. Done!

I started out with Ableton on PC fully intending to use it every week. It is truly an amazing program for this application of for making your own backing tracks.

This might not be what you wanted to hear but I'll share what happened to me. I invested in a nice PC laptop and Ableton, began using it, Realized I could replace it with something way more intuitive. An iPad with the prime app you can get for free from loopcommunity.com. Buy their tracks for Prime and have everything on a music stand in the iPad. You can change keys, mute/solo parts all in the app.The tracks all have cue and metronome that you route to channel B whilst routing the audio to FOH in channel A. You use earbuds on stage from a stage mix. One track in each ear. Sooooooo much easier than Ableton. By a mile. The only thing I use Ableton for now is mostly new track construction. All tracks in Ableton can be uploaded to Prime app as indivisul tracks. PRIME separates them.

"If" you only want mainstage for the synth sounds. Yeah you can get that in multiple other ways on PC. You could use Sampletank and any other similar program. Alternately go hardware for the bread and butter sounds mostly used in worship music.

Thanks cclarry

I think the main  question I had with these sales was , Should I buy individual plugins or wait for the package deals? In my case it was kinda both. I bought a handful of the singles at good prices. Around the holidays they had a good deal on the packages.  It can be redundant if the packages have the same plugins.

If you only plan to use a few waves plugins this is excellent. I highly recommend the package deals as well. Once you buy one package it's less to jump to the next one up. If you buy Waves Silver, upgrade to gold is less.

I find myself frequently going to certain waves plugins. No matter how or why they are so cheap I like it. They have some very quality stuff. I was on a mix last evening and used Kramer Master Tape, Scheps parallel particles, Gregg Wells Mix Centric on the "fairy dust" setting and a few others. Abbey Road TG Mastering chain is understated. It totally rocks. Sheps Omni channel and 73...can't say enough good about those.  I could go on about their other stuff. It's all mostly good, They're  re working some of their older plugins and adding new ones.

I use the usb stick option. Usb sticks are inexpensive. If your motherboard or hard drive smokes today you can have new plugins all verified and playing tomorrow. You can transfer between computers with it. It doesn't cost 30.00 like the iLok. Most computers have lots of usb port in them. If not,  I recommend you buy a usb hub.

Thanks Craig. I'm a long time Cakewalk fan...since Pro 8.  I was hesitant to mention my other programs here which are in fact Studio One Pro 4 and Sound forge. I made an acoustic guitar album with SO4 tags and all. I have not used SoundForge. Bought it on a deal never opened it. I have some decent limiters including the Waves L3 I think.  The acoustic album was an easier mix. Less elements involved.

I think I'll do the same thing you do. I'm not as familiar with SO4 but I should be able to get the hang of it. My last CD album was several years back. That's the last time I attempted this.

I'll read those article links tonight.Thanks again!

 I mostly record my own material and post it online.  I'm not well versed in the ways most mix a set of songs in Cakewalk for album CD distribution. I've been getting more jobs that require mixes and setups that want a finished CD, so I'm curious how some of you who do this more often might  go about it. For instance would you put any limiting on individual songs before they go to the final master?  Some of the mixes lack punch and volume if I don't add a limiter before the master. My plan was to mix each tune for the CD and then use another more dedicated program for the final mix.

The CD will be for a charity and so it won't need to be tagged for commercial distribution. My client has someone who will run off the CDs. Not sure what they are using to do it or if they are subbing it out. My plan was to get all of the tracks lined up after export from Cakewalk  into the other mastering program where I would even out the volume levels, add EQ if necessary and limiting. 

As it stands each track needs a different touch. Some seem to need limiting before the master mix to get the levels up. 

To those who mix these kinds of projects often, do you employ some pre mastering before the master? Thanks!

I think their mantra is a newb can get up and going quickly in it and have everything they need to get started. I like it for video.

Like all daws I think a lot of work goes into building one and keeping it up with updates.  I mainly use Cakewalk. Have a few others. I respect the work that's gone into it and I think anyone who has used it and likes it could do much worse than updating it for such a great upgrade. No I don't work for those guys....just sayin'. Respect.

Well, I want it loud but I guess not that Loud. My ears  almost baked anyhow.

17 minutes ago, InstrEd said:

I like to play with her keys but I only have two hands?

 

Eh...what were we talking about?