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Glad you guys are still going at it here. Coming off of holiday. I took some extra time off to recover with will some real rest. More time to look at the deals thread. 

I had built my own PC. I had an Apple too at the time but didn't have big $$ for the top notch stuff for it. I think because I had built the PC I was more interested in expanding it for audio work. I had Sony Acid on the PC and was running an old copy of a Cakewalk program for an apple. Yes there was an early program that worked on Apple from Cakewalk. I was getting Keyboard Magazine and SOS and seen Cakewalk in it advertised,so I bought it. I began on Pro Audio 8 I think it was...

In the early days I did a lot more tinkering than actually making music. I was more enthralled by the way it all worked and it took me a long time to develop a way that I liked to work which has changed over the years. I think it's important to define what you want to do and develop a working strategy. In those early years I was overwhelmed. All midi was going into and put of hardware. I didn't have a lot of money to throw at it with a young family to raise so I plodded along learning some of it by trial and error on a minimal setup. Learning it didn't come naturally to me. Heck I'm still learning. Loops were not as big back then or loop based music. My developing years were in the 70's not the 60's. I was still on a bottle in the early 60's, so musically i was influenced a lot by 70's rock at the time. That's what I attempted to emulate on some level in my studio, but basically it was a lot of just playing around with the tech until I started to know a little bit about what I was doing. I made some music, was in a few small music groups that never went anywhere. Sometimes much of it seems like a big waste, but in hindsight I think it was slow progressive education on several fronts. My background is full of church oriented music, so I've continued to carry that over to the present. It all still looks like a very long squiggly line to get from point A to point B. After I bought Cakewalk I just kept using and upgrading it. I think I liked the software as much as I liked the people behind it and the users on the CW board.

At the time it was competitive with any other DAW out there. Still is.

Have the LSR305's. They work great for my small studio!  The LSR 308's have a +/- 2db LF switch if you find the bass is a bit much. I haven't needed a SW  for my 305's mainly because I monitor bass in my headphones. Maybe not the best approach. Seems to work ok.

I once read about the "k" designation behind chip ID info. Unfortunately I've forgotten it..How does the 9900 differ from the 9900k? My build was a 5820"K" which I think mean't less threads.

Yep lots of low priced and free libraries out there fer sure. I tend to use Kontakt in a more simplistic way. I seldom build multi's in Kontakt. I don't run a lot of tracks. I just load a bunch of separate instances up. Drain on cpu isn't that bad. You can save it as a mix scene and it will be the same next time you open it.

Is there a buy one get one deal? Just kidding. I knew better than that.

PECO? That explains it.

1 hour ago, Grem said:

YEs. I agree here. When I want a new toy, I'll go look for what I want and get it. I don't need or want my DAW to provide every tool I need. That's what vst's are for!!

Same here Grem! Don't get me wrong, I liked many of the toys in Platinum. It would be great if one day we could get some of the non 3rd party ones back, even if it's a paid sort of thing. I don't think it's healthy for the user base to come to expect this all the time when that really just isn't practical.  That said, I agree that for a DAW it's mainly workflow and  stability that are of main importance. 

Gee John, you didn't want to give Traktion,  Bitwig or Ableton a shot?  

I guess I just get tired of the lone masked snipers that sometimes drop by.  We have a positive thread about CbB and here comes the wicked witch of the west to try and stick a hole in the balloon.  Never could understand why a person would expend so much time cutting on something  they have no intention of using or don't like. Just go have fun doing whatever it is you like to do, unless it's DAW bashing lol.

37 minutes ago, Billy86 said:

What?? I’m not seeing that with the K6 I just bought...

You bought Kontakt and not Komplete right?

The basic version of Komplete, IOW not the ultimate version should have Kontakt in it. Some qualify for a 99.00 move to Komplete. 99.00 instead of 49.00 upgrade. I could have went that route but I have all I need right now is Kontakt 6. I dropped 49.00 for Kontakt 6. For 50.00 more a person could get Komplete basic which includes Kontakt6. Not a shabby deal either.

Thanks for the heads up on the deal. I probably wouldn't have upgraded otherwise.

Bat did you take the track down? I don't see it here.

Pleasant kind of feel I get with this. I like to take older material and rework it. Lots of possibilities. Thanks for sharing!

Nice work Wookie. Does have a sci fi feel to it! 

Thank you Johnbee.

7 hours ago, Bill Ruys said:

Are you sure about that?  I note that nearly all of the new features that users are going nuts about in the Studio One 4.5 update have been in Sonar for YEARS.  I had to chuckle as I watched the videos on youtube touting the wonderful new features.  And in case you think I'm biased, I own a fully paid-up license for Studio One 4.x

Same here, Studio One 4.5 Pro with the latest updates. I would have to agree.

Thanks cclarry.  All I need to do now is download it.

I looked at my version last night and it's version 10 Ultimate. Bought it on a sale. I like that  Komplete 12 comes with  Kontakt 6. Probably couldn't  buy separate sample libraries from reputable library companies and get similar things bought separately for the discounted price, no doubt if you want it this is the time to buy it. Great prices. Kontakt 6 has a few cool new additions in it as well.

Someguy...whoever you are and whatever DAW you use, we will have to agree to disagree. My opinion is based on the facts. I'm not sure what you base your opinion on.

CbB hasn't been standing still. Not by a long shot. If you want to compare DAWS obviously they all have their strengths and weaknesses. I  know Cakewalk has a lot of strengths. I could bring up a few well known DAWS  as a comparison that haven't had as many changes as CbB has had in the same amount of time. 

You think I don't own multiple DAWS? I know how they work dude. lol.

Live 10 just had a recent update to 10.1.

"Every positive remains the same, but isn't quite as good as it was in 2015 (just over 4 years ago). "

Yes CbB is similar to what it was then.  If by saying " isn't quite as good", you mean the omission of some 3rd party plugins from CbB that were included in Platinum, then maybe you have a point, otherwise I fail to see the point in looking at the improvements made to the software and saying little or nothing has happened.

In making a comparison to any other DAW out there, the same thing could be said, that many of the updates made since 2015 made were trivial and not really of any significance. In most software updates they deal with all of the trivial stuff......yeah, it's only trivial until it crashes your system, or someone didn't notice a windows update causes a serious problem. You can say ARA 2 and Elastique were trivial updates. I don't see it that way. Probably 90% of all updates are to keep software stable and running alongside OS and software generational changes. 

It was suggested to those who didn't want to change from Platinum to simply keep running Sonar Platinum on their machines as long as they can. I personally don't believe this is the best approach. It's what happens to keep the software running that we don't often notice but is so necessary.

I don't find fault with anyone who decided to keep Platinum and run it on a computer without updates, maybe even disconnected from the web. That isn't me though. I want to remain as current as possible with my system as much as I have the resources to allow it. The only exception to that is if I'm working on a large project for a friend or a client . In that case I'll wait until that project is completed.

Yes, thanks guys for this info.  I  have an older version of Komplete Ultimate. I forget the version, I think it's version 8. Kontakt was included in that version. You need it to play any of the libraries. When I look back at my actual use of a bunch of those libs in Komplete I haven't used them as much as my 3rd party libraries. Moving up to the most recent version of Komplete is probably wasted on me. I think NI really sticks you on an initial purchase of Kontakt if bought separately.  Version 5 has been working great for me. We all know how all things software eventually end up though. I could probably continue to use 5 for a long time, but for 49.00 quid it's really a no brainer to upgrade it. A small no brainer at that!

Komplete is nice to have around and I won't say I never use it because I do on occasion. I think people who buy it are under the impression they won't ever need anything else because it has all the bases covered. That could be true for you, but most I know who have it are still buying other stuff.  Kontakt is really the one to have IMO. Then your options are open.

1 hour ago, S.L.I.P. said:

Voices Inside My Head

That's not a hair style. An alien has attached itself to his head.?

At least they aren't "polky" ??? I think that's a waltz tempo.

I would say try to load your project up on it and see if the computer can handle it  first. You'll need a time keeper if using it for band sync. So a click and some audio tracks? That shouldn't be too demanding. Sampling is even easier if you have the computer tied to midi pads running one soft sampler. You're basically just reaching over and hitting pads when you want the samples. 

Another option for anyone using a lower spec lappy is to use only midi and send it to a sound module if running lots of tracks. I would just make sure the module or modules can handle the additional polyphony. Most laptops now though should be capable to run a basic setup. 

Give it a shot, see what happens.

I've had K5 for a long time and so far I haven't seen a need to upgrade. Do you think we should? Why?

Thanks for sharing that great price BTW.